On 10 Nov 2009 at 8:02am P wrote:
Anyone know if there's an online map showing where the flood waters went up to in 2000? Trying to find out which roads in the Pells area flooded.
On 10 Nov 2009 at 8:55am DFE wrote:
not enough if you ask me............... seriously try ordnance survey My mrs works for them and deals with this kinda thing
On 10 Nov 2009 at 9:10am I dont lives in lewes... wrote:
Talbot Terrace/ excluding no.s 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 10 which have steps up to the front door all flooded. As a guide the water came to the very top of those steps. The first 6? houses in Pelham terrace all flooded. TheTalbot Terrace/ Toronto Terrace junction flooded to a depth of some 2-3 feet. The wall of the now Lewes New School which fronts the Pells bore a water mark some 4- 5 ft high for many months after the flood.
I know these things as I lived there during the 2000 flood... and moved afterwards.
Please note the following:
The roads in that area began to flood some hours before the tidal driven River Ouse slowly but surely enveloped peoples houses.
The main sewers acted like giant hose pipes with pressure so great that shyte blended with river water and mud was sent many feet into the air, heavy iron and concrete drain covers thrown yards away as if made of cardboard.
Likewise, river water was released from the storm drains... all this before the main tidal onslaught of water arrived.
The Pells area is only a few feet above sea level, so the storm drain system may well find itself lower than the water table during flood.
Since the flood, the storm drain system in the area has been replaced with much larger diameter pipe work which feeds into a pumping station in the Friars Walk area.
This sounds a good idea and with regard to a natural heavy rain storm is. However, As in the last flood water shot out of the storm drains, increasing the pipe diameter will also increase the amount of water able to be emitted from it.
I dont know the capabilities of the pumping station but I if ever there is a competition between the River Ouse in Full Flood vs a Pump I know who Id put my money on.
://tinyurl.com/ykbovm7 is the map you asked for (needs http infront of it). The map is a guide only.
On 10 Nov 2009 at 10:02am P wrote:
Thanks very much Phil, that's been extremely useful. Sounds like a nightmare. How far up Toronto terrace would you say the flood waters came to? About halfway by the sounds of it?
On 10 Nov 2009 at 11:22am Pells Photos wrote:
Check out picture number 7 on this site, which shows Toronto Terrace in the 2000 floods:
On 10 Nov 2009 at 1:30pm I dont live in lewes... wrote:
Re Toronto Terrace.
No the flood water didn't go halfway up Toronto Terrace.
The cross road junction with Talbot Terrace is aprox in the middle of Toronto Terrace which from that point climbs steeply on both sides. Certainly the first 2 houses(maybe 3) on both sides of the road either side of the junction were affected.
If you intend to live more than 1/3rd of the way up the hill on either side you would be ok if it flooded to the same depth again.
I would be cautious and make entensive enquiries with regard to the effect that the increased size of the newly installed storm drains would have to flood depth should/when river water back up through them when in flood. In theory culverts should stop this happening... like they did last time. lol
Remember, there's an aweful lot of water in a river!
On 10 Nov 2009 at 1:57pm I dont live in lewes... wrote:
Shoot the Webbo!
The forum glitched and removed half the text!
Full post below.
No water didnt flood half of Toronto Terrace.
The junction with Talbot Terrace is approximately in the middle of Toronto Terrace and from that point it fortunately climbs steeply both sides of that junction. One half ends in a cul de sac the other leads to St Johns Church. Certainly 2 houses, maybe 3 flooded on both sides of the road either side of the junction.
If you intend to live more than 1/3rd of the way up either side of the junction you would escape wet feet if the river were to flood to the same depth again.
Be cautious and make enquiries as to what the increased size storm drains would make to flood depth should river water once again back up into them in time of flood.
The answer which you may get is that a system of culverts and traps will prevent this from happening just like it did last time.
If you were to ask my honest opinion it would be thus: The area is a beautiful place to live and has great feelings about it, very nice people to.
I can truthfully say that some days I still miss living there.
However, the risk of flood is ever present which to put mildly isnt nice and horror stories abound, most of which are true. If ever it were to flood again which is likely given increased river levels then obtaining house insurance could well be difficult verging on impossible.
Parking remains a pain in the *rse.
On 10 Nov 2009 at 2:40pm NCG wrote:
i am quite surprised that nobody has come up with a gondola or other water transportation service for times when the flooding is really bad. :|
On 10 Nov 2009 at 4:32pm I dont live in lewes wrote:
Don't tempt fate my exotic mate.
On 10 Nov 2009 at 4:52pm NCG wrote:
oh, why not? it wouldn't be the first time.
On 10 Nov 2009 at 5:56pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
The flood maps are maintained by the environment agency, albeit not very well (they left off Orchard Road!). They might be able to help.
On 11 Nov 2009 at 5:21pm wanderer wrote:
birmingham & midshires have covered me for flooding as i explained it was a river affected by a tide and that there is a barrier at barcombe they spoke to the underwriter and said it was ok and they also said our property is not on the flood list ?? strange as it did flood ..anyway contents was cheaper than most