On 28 Nov 2011 at 10:13am Captain Sensible (ret) wrote:
Drone, the surplus money, as you call it, has not only been contributed by the 'workers' but also by the Taxpayers contributions.
If your figures are accurate we, the Taxpayers, have been paying too much to too many for too long.
Reduce the workforce and,:
Let's all start on a level playing field; close all pension schemes and refund all the contributions to the members that they have made to
Let them all, private or taxpayers funded workers, use the money to make their own arrangements for their pensions. This would, I suggest, provide a shocking return to reality for many!
On 28 Nov 2011 at 12:10pm Dingo wrote:
Your ideas are about as sensible as a chocolate toilet seat.
On 28 Nov 2011 at 12:50pm bastian wrote:
chocolate tea pot...I think three times is enough for one post, it wasn't that good the first time.
On 28 Nov 2011 at 1:33pm Amanda wrote:
No, but you read it!!! Tee Hee!!!
Captain probably realised that paper pushing to waste time is a public sector workers main strength!
On 28 Nov 2011 at 1:40pm Dingo wrote:
Amanda ,you have the sense of humour of a delayed train.and the intellect of a used bus ticket and that`s being charitable.
On 28 Nov 2011 at 2:06pm awdree wrote:
Another dog? Ah, but this one is a yellow dog Dingo. Quite rare, not quite err..............
Leave Amanda alone just because Captain S touched a nerve, it's not her fault.
On 28 Nov 2011 at 3:57pm Dingo wrote:
On 28 Nov 2011 at 8:18pm TPA wrote:
What a surprise, 'The Guardian' equally as biased with it's views as what The Sun and The Mail are with theirs.
Don't even begin to convince yourselves that all you selfish people will have the support of the hard working Brit.
Just wait for the back lash that you will receive on Wednesday.
Your all a disgrace and if it were down to me I would sack the lot of you.
On 28 Nov 2011 at 8:51pm Paul Newman wrote:
That would be Seamus Milne, son of Alistair Milne Director General of the BBC, ex Communist and Stalin apologist , who recently supported looting mobile phones, on the basis that the Banks had ‚??Looted the country`s wealth ‚??‚?¶that prattling public school parasite Seamus Milne ?Its not just the Guardian its the Guardian`s court jester Trotskyist. No-one takes him, seriously and there is not one word of that infantile article that is true
Try this for evidence and facts
Check it out here »
On 28 Nov 2011 at 11:04pm Wasted wrote:
Unlike those that read the Sun and the Daily Mail readers of the Guardian generally have some powers of discrimination and can tell sh.t from a shovel.
On 29 Nov 2011 at 1:53am Dingo wrote:
Now then Paul why don`t you give Nursie a quick phone call and make an appointment for a good spanking.Go on you know you want to!Tell her you`ve been a very naughty boy coz` you`ve been reading the Guardian again haven`t you? You know that mummy and Daddy have forbiddenit but you can`t resist it can you?Yes,yes, they`re all a bunch of Trots ,but you secretly want to them to love you!You want to come out on strike.and wave a banner like the other boys and girls.They seem to be having so much fun,they seem so alive, so happy in their closeness, solidarity and general good nature, and you`re so miserable with no friends and no possibility of a relationship that isn`t based on greed, envy or bitterness.Poor you.Make sure she really beats you hard this time.
On 29 Nov 2011 at 7:32am Paul Newman wrote:
Dingo isn`t it just wonderful , what you can get on the NHS nowadays
On 29 Nov 2011 at 9:56am Awdree wrote:
Back to your kennel Dingo! Woof, Woof..............
On 29 Nov 2011 at 11:38am pensioner wrote:
it bewilders me - private sector workers are to be pitied it seems because their pensions are lower and more precarious than public sector pensions.
The public sector final salary schemes were hard fought for and have been protected through collectivity; - as a pensioner I shall do all I can to protect younger workers' pensions.
Why should the public sector's reasonable pensions be attacked just because private sector workers, so often de - unionized, have carelessly lost their rights in the avalanche of corporate greed?
On 29 Nov 2011 at 12:39pm Dingo wrote:
Absolutely spot on my good friend and comrade.
On 29 Nov 2011 at 1:31pm MI goodness wrote:
No one has mentioned the preferential mortgage rates that are given to our public Servants..............I wonder why?
On 29 Nov 2011 at 2:17pm Old Cynic wrote:
Probably because they don't exist! After years as a public servant Ive never heard of a perferential mortgage - but I have heard of a three year pay freeze - Iv'e forgotton what a pay rise looks like!
On 29 Nov 2011 at 3:34pm bastian wrote:
there is no such thing as a preferential mortgage for public workers...this is how misinformation begins. Old cynic, brace yourself, because that three years is about to go up to five as of this month. Well that will help the economy won't it.
Pensioner, thank you for your support... you are older and wiser than any of the whipper snappers who have swallowed the consumer/capital hook line and sinker.
On 29 Nov 2011 at 4:22pm Paul Newman wrote:
Pensioner -Wrong, Private Sector workers are angry because not only do they have no pensions but they pay for fantastically generous pensions for other people which get more valuable every year.
Bastian I would imagine they are referring to the low cost loans and sharing schemes run for Key workers by many local authorities. These enable the the rest of us to buy people that are 'more important than we are' a houses .... More important magically means Public Sector and includes teachers , Policemen and the like. The nice touch is that for un-key irrelevant workers ( thats us ) this forces prices up !
Its just one rip off after another
On 29 Nov 2011 at 4:34pm bastian wrote:
Paul that is such drival as usual.
as you can see the public sector have no chance of increasing their wage, and for support staff the ladder is very short if it exhists at all so they can never better their wage which the private sector can do if they are willing.
of course if you don't need us you can go away and pay privately for all your personal needs...if you can afford it.
On 29 Nov 2011 at 6:13pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
And the key worker housing schemes were introduced because it had become increasingly difficult to recruit workers such as police officers, teachers and social workers in London and the south east.
Why would you want to work in the south, where you can't afford to buy a house when you can get the same wages in other parts of the country where a whole street would cost less than a small house in Lewes?
On 29 Nov 2011 at 6:51pm Paul Newman wrote:
Bastian Public Sector workers have better opportunities of increasing their wage .Compared to the Private Sector the structure is like a Dali Elephant, it is so top heavy with management. This, mark you well, when the rest of the world has shed tiers like cry baby bunting !
ANC- If you are suggesting that National Pay scales are ended well hallelujah. This is also why you can`t keep staff t difficult schools. Fine lets do it , you will find a few paid more overall a significant saving. That might be directed at the under privileged whose plight the Unions do not care about.
On 30 Nov 2011 at 10:43am in easy street wrote:
I'm a key worker and took advantage of the PS assisted house buying plan, saved shed loads of money thanks very much!
Can' wait to sell and make another profit!
On 30 Nov 2011 at 11:40am in easy street wrote:
I`m a right wing troll and I`ll say anything to get right up your nose!
On 30 Nov 2011 at 2:59pm in easy street wrote:
The 11.40 posting under the name of in easy street is a fake trying to deride the facts.
There ARE preferential mortgages available for 'key workers' and they are not taxed as benefit in kind as are Company Cars and there are also cheap car rental perks for Council employees.
Hard done by? Don't make me laugh.
On 30 Nov 2011 at 3:20pm in easy street wrote:
I`m a right wing troll and i`ll say anything to get up you nose and to get on your tits.
On 30 Nov 2011 at 3:31pm in easy street wrote:
Did I mention that I keep a chicken in my underpants? as my own cock is rather small and innefectual.