On 1 Aug 2013 at 12:52pm Depressed of Lewes wrote:
I'm depressed and anxious. Anyone tried CBT? The doctor just gives me antidepressants that give me stomach ache.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 1:10pm Doctor Struckoff wrote:
Been there,got the t shirt.I promise you it comes to an end if you want it to and let it happen.You have come to the point where you must exercise some control over your thoughts,most people don't. It takes some time and it's bloody hard work.Force yourself to think positively and push yourself to a new you,you can't go back.Remember it just gets better all the time.Silly seeming things like improving your diet can have a huge effect too.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 2:11pm Get Well Soon wrote:
yes CBT does work. you might need more than the 6 appointments you get for free, and it is worth every penny if you need to pay for some more. You may also be able to get 12 appointments free if very unwell, or if you have 6, and several months later need some more. Also, not every Councilllor is perfect for everyone, so bear that in mind if after a while you really don't think they are helping. However, remember that they may be quite correctly challenging too, and that is not the same as being ineffective. Try and notice the really small improvements, because these are the first signs of getting well. It will take time, but it is also an opportunity to get better, and then to keep going, and actually be more happy than you were before you became unwell. If the pills make you unwell, that may change, or discuss alternatives with your doctor, as there are choices. There is a lot of good advice around that is worth getting , because it gives you confidence that you can, and will get better, although that may not be quick.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 2:16pm Good Luck wrote:
I went to my GP at School Hill Lewes asking to see a counsellor saying that I was depressed and quite honestly felt suicidal. That was last December! I am still waiting to see someone 9 months later! All the services that deal with that kind of problem say because my 'problem' probably arrises from my being terminally ill that there isn't any use in seeing me. Really!
I've really tried to push my point with my GP but she say's there is little that she can do. They're basically saying its not worth the effort bothering with me because I'm going to die anyway. So I went to 'Mind' and they wouldn't see me either, they said the same thing. They did say we can refer you to an 'Advocate' to speak on my behalf to make sure your voice is heard? All of it is a sick joke..See what happens if you go to your GP for a NHS counsellor. My whole experience has been more than enough to make you want to slash you wrists. aarrrrh!
On 1 Aug 2013 at 4:07pm A person wrote:
Good luck, that's appalling.
Have you heard of a charity called "living well, dying well"? They're Lewes based and I think you'd find them incredibly helpful. The last thing they'll do is dismiss your feelings like that. Give them a call.
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On 1 Aug 2013 at 5:09pm GWS wrote:
Good Luck. I am sorry to hear that you do not seem to have had the help you want. I would follow 'A persons' good advice. I also think that we should not put off someone else who can get help, from taking it, because good CBT counselling does work, and a good counsellor does not need to be expensive, or have glossy leaflets.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 5:58pm Good Luck wrote:
GWS Your right. I didn't mean to belittle the CBT Counselling. But it isn't the first time that someone has sung their praises on here. I could not hold back no more and I just said the experience I have had with trying to get a Counsellor on the NHS. Or not had which is more to the point. Are you saying, I should just shut up because I might dissuade another from using the CBT service and being a client?
AP Thank you for your advice the 'Living Well, Dying Well' organisation looks really good and empathic. I certainly will look into their services.
I've have kept my health issues to myself for quite sometime, its not normally something I like to shout on about. It is just frustrating that all.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 6:15pm amy wrote:
Hi Good luck, I was wondering do you have contact with any hospice locally. They offer counselling and are experts with patients with terminal illness. I think you can refer yourself, they may need your permission to enable them to contact your GP. please give them a try. I have had CBT myself which was provided by my employer and I did fine the sessions very useful. However for you personally I am sure is not suitable.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 6:44pm GWS wrote:
Good Luck, I am not saying you shouldn't be critical of bad service, because what you describe is terrible. However it is not the CBT that is at fault, it is your being denied cheap and helpful treatment. 6 sessions of CBT is not expensive in medical terms, even though for most of us it is unaffordable privately. I have paid more to have some minor NHS dental treatment. I am not sure that your Doctor should be discriminated against you in this way, so would discuss the issue with 'Living Well, Dying Well' to see if they can help you.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 6:52pm Me wrote:
Try out this place. It's local, Its free and the staff are excellent and yes I do use the place myself
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On 1 Aug 2013 at 7:00pm GL wrote:
Depressed of Lewes I should try CBT. I'm slightly suspicious of Antidepressants, its a fairly easy to mask a problem, you wouldn't solve it. Good Luck with whatever you decide.
Amy I think that the crux of it is CBT is only there for about 6 sessions and won't really make an impact (thats the way I think they see it). Having said that I'd of thought it professional of them to actually tell me why it is they have turned me down. As it is it is its left to my imagination and the GP isn't forthcoming on the subject either.
I've been told I have Cancer twice in the last 5 years only to supposedly mysteriously disappear again 3 months later each time. The last time they had told me I had Cancer they assigned a Macmillan Nurse to me but that service went also after the 3 months without me seeing her/him. A year or so passes and I go to see my GP and ask to see a counsellor and here I am yet another 9 months down the line without having seen anyone. Thats why I feel aggrieved.
I'll stop now I feel rotten it was 'Depressed of Lewes's' thread.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 7:04pm GL wrote:
should of read 'unprofessional'
On 1 Aug 2013 at 8:03pm Depressed of Lewes wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I hope you are OK Good Luck. Sounds like you are having a tough time. I might give CBT a go.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 8:23pm Carpe Diem wrote:
In my experience CBT is just a sticking plaster for the deeper underlying problems which depression masks.Feelings of worthlessness andanxiety often return with a vengeance just a few months after the end of C.B.T.
Again in my experiece this may not be the same for everybody I found a combination of E.M.D.R or E.F.T coupled with psychodynamic psychotherapy or counselling(good old fashioned talking cure stuff)was highly effective.C.B.T. is just another version of "pull your socks up"in my opinion.The reason for it`s popularity with the health service and the gov`t is because of it`s relative cheapness.If you can`t get a counsellor then try C.B.T or E.M.D.R. they do work believe me.Borough.
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On 1 Aug 2013 at 8:26pm Carpe diem wrote:
What I should have written was
If you can`t get a counsellor then tryE.F.T or E.M.D.R. they do work believe me.Borough.
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On 1 Aug 2013 at 8:31pm Kitten wrote:
A change of medication can work wonders. Really.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 8:34pm geoff wrote:
WEBBO
Along with a few other threads I cannot click on thumbs up or thumbs down here. Why?
On 1 Aug 2013 at 8:49pm Liza Lott wrote:
Maybe you`re just too depressed geoff.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 10:50pm GWS wrote:
My understanding is that good CBT is talking therapy counselling. Not all of it is good quality (like anything), and also sometimes a sticking plaster is needed in the short term. I think it is a good starting point, and can be seen as a route to more expensive and long term counselling if needed. However a lot of more extensive counselling is simply not affordable to many people which is something that I hope will change. A good CBT counsellor should simply enable a person to discover how changing behaviour can create change (good or bad) and that you have that power to understand and use this power for your benefit, and also understand how it may have caused problems, or cause them even now. The simplest things can help, especially if considered as part of an all round strategy on improving ones health. Many people have no idea that they have this simple ability , or if they do and have no understanding of the impact different types of behaviour can have on us , without our realising. This is not to undermine other help , it is just that for now CBT is what is available most cheaply, so many people have no choice but to make the best of it, and for many of them it is very successful. It is at least an improvement on the past when talking about stuff was seen to be something that indulgent Woody Allen types did, that exploited their anxieties and achieved nothing. Talking about something with someone impartial and helpful, whoever they are, can be invaluable. Simply talking to anyone who has experience of mental health issues can offer up surprisingly useful nuggets of good advice, as this thread proves. Until you are unwell, you are unlikely to know about the different effects of different drugs, therapies, and experiences. We don't all agree, but everyone has compassion for everyone else, and does want them to get the better health they deserve.
On 1 Aug 2013 at 11:49pm Been there ! wrote:
Hoffman - it works
On 2 Aug 2013 at 12:32am Dave wrote:
I'd agree with Carpe Diem, I've used EFT for all sorts of things and its amazingly effective.
On 2 Aug 2013 at 12:42am Been there ! wrote:
Tried it all. Hoffman, tough but absolutely sorts you and frankly life is just too short to risk the multitude of other therapies on offer.And no I have no interest in Hoffman as a "brand" but I am hugely grateful to it for giving me some incite and tools into how to deal with my depression.
On 2 Aug 2013 at 12:46am Been there wrote:
Obviously should have read insight for the grammatically astute of this Lewes community. Something else which could be addressed, if you let it.
On 2 Aug 2013 at 8:36am Priory Ghost wrote:
I've tried guided meditation. I found Meditainment CD's to be really helpful. I've had anxiety and depression since primary school. It comes and goes, I suppose you have to learn to live with it. Antidepressant are OK but they do not address the root cause.