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Dale Farm

On 19 Sep 2011 at 3:58pm Basil Dunn wrote:
Rumour has it that Jeremy Clarkson and the Top Gear team are on hand to help clear Dale Farm of caravans.
On 19 Sep 2011 at 8:18pm Peter Byron wrote:
I can tell you the eviction will never go ahead, too controversial and in breach of Human Rights Laws I have been told. Sorry Daily Mail readers but that is the word on the street (or rather Law Courts). Best, Peter
On 20 Sep 2011 at 7:41am Giles wrote:
These travellers (or are they English Gypsies?) want it both ways. A permanent site for the winter but free to leave for the summer where they set up camp in Brighton and other places. If you or I illegally parked a caravan on a piece of land or started building in a field without planning consent we would feel the full force of the law straight away.
On 20 Sep 2011 at 9:32am Shardlake wrote:
Get orf moi laaand!!
On 20 Sep 2011 at 12:45pm Clifford wrote:
Is what you say about the Dale Farm travellers only staying there in the winter true, Giles?
On 20 Sep 2011 at 1:32pm mr conman wrote:
send them back to Ireland .to there homes
On 20 Sep 2011 at 1:46pm Giles wrote:
Clifford - yes that is what I understand the situation to be. It is quite possible that some of them were the crowd in the Wild Park (Brighton) during the summer that left behind a mess for the Council to remove. They are currently trying to convert their touring vans to more permanent dwellings in an attempt to avoid eviction from Dale Farm.
On 20 Sep 2011 at 4:56pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I'd have thought they just needed to take the wheels off to do that, Giles!
I find it ironic that Basildon Council has granted planning permission for a housing development on green belt land not far from the site. It doesn't sound like they're that fussed about protecting the green belt.
I'm also a bit bemused as to how a scrapyard became green belt in the first place.
On 20 Sep 2011 at 7:33pm Clifford wrote:
Whn I asked whether it was true Giles I was expecting you to respond with some evidence, such as a link to an article confirming it. 'I understand' and 'it is quite possible' don't really constitute convincing evidence.
On 21 Sep 2011 at 9:34am jrsussex wrote:
Prior to moving back to Sussex approximately seven years ago I lived at Benfleet in Essex, almost on the doorstep of Dale farm. Take my word for it, the inhabitants are a terrrible nuisance to the vast majority of people in that area. They are totally inconsiderate of their neighbours, the area in general and the rights of others to live a peaceful and enjoyable life. That is why I find there cry for human rights so utterly ridiculous.
As shown ob TV many of them own land in Ireland and other European countries. One has to ask why they do not set up home on their own land?
All that said never make the mistake of confusing genuine romany people with "travellers", they are a breed apart, nice people who live responsibly with the community.
On 21 Sep 2011 at 11:59am Giles wrote:
They also own the land on which they are located at Dale Farm. However they are not using it in accordance with the Planning Consent. This is not a case of victimisation or discrimination, it is merely the Council quite rightly trying to uphold the law.
On 21 Sep 2011 at 12:24pm Hedley Lamarr wrote:
JRSussex. Fully agree with you on all counts. It never ceases to amaze me how some people will support just about any cause and will defend the undefencible to the hilt. Do the travellers pay taxes? If they don't then do they claim on the National Health Service when needed? Do they claim any other allowances they can - of course they do and the sate is all too willing to let them get away with it. They act as though they are beyond the law. They are not and the kid gloves should come off. Human rights? I don't think so. Do they think of our Human Rights when they rip unsuspecting pensioners and the vulnerable off? To those who support them, I would ask why? I suppose it is the same people who would support anything which is even vaguely political. So, I suppose I am not an anarchist after all.

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