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On 13 May 2017 at 9:22am Dear Tim wrote:
I seriously can't believe you support all the cutbacks the government are making across the entire range of local authority. Virtually every department is at breaking point. I appreciate you don't use any of the services, neither do I but some of these cutbacks are life and death situations and who's to say that you won't need the police, fire service, hospital or when any of your family do.
It is a tragic shame that there's no decent alternative to the Tories but if you're seriously supporting all those cutbacks, well i honestly think there's not much hope for mankind.
On 13 May 2017 at 9:06pm Historian wrote:
I'll tell you what is a waste.....
A Town Council
A District Council
A County Council
An Member of Parliament
A European Member Of Parliament
And all the staff and offices that go with that lot.
I tell you that lot don't come cheap.
On 13 May 2017 at 10:24pm Gus wrote:
Historian, can you suggest an alternative?
On 13 May 2017 at 11:19pm Voter wrote:
I can.
One local council.
One national government.
Less pen-pushers, with those remaining working harder for a bit less luxury.
On 14 May 2017 at 7:44am Sussex Jim wrote:
Thanks to the Tories we are a low-tax society. From 1970, when the Heath government reduced the basic rate of income tax from 8/4d. in the pound (that's 42%!) to 30p, and raised the threshold to allow 3 million workers to pay no tax; until today we have a basic rate of 20%.
As a result there is far less money in the kitty to pay for public services. What do you want- trim services back to the basics, or pay more tax?
There are only about 600 MPs., so they don't cost much. And the days of MEPs. are numbered. How about cutting the benefits bill to the workshy and dysfunctional families? The sort of people you see on "Life on the dole" and "Can't pay? We'll take it away".
On 14 May 2017 at 8:24am Chav wrote:
Personally, i'd be happy to pay more for these services by tax rises. Can't believe you agree with all the cutbacks Sussex Jim.
On 14 May 2017 at 8:32am Sensible wrote:
That's exactly what I mean, Sussex Jim, by 'rewarding responsibility'. For real cases there is always charity. The National Health Service wasn't really needed before its creation because charities supplied hospitals and made great advances while people who had forgotten to save were encouraged to look after themselves first. One learns by living with the consequences of being irresponsible. Look at this week's news. I received an email yesterday from our insurer saying that not one private hospital was affected by a computer virus. NOT ONE. Who would invest in the NHS now given its fake accounting and Stalinist socialism? A country needs to be managed, not argued about. We're going to kick envious Labourites out of Parliament and our shiny boot will be the ballot box.
On 14 May 2017 at 9:07am The Old Mayor wrote:
It may be considered a low Income tax, but with 20% Vat on nearly everything purchased, that well makes up for it, and gets tax from those that avoid income tax or not earning enough to pay it. Now the insurance tax has hit 10%, car tax, stamp duty, inheritance tax, where applicable, council tax plus some other too. That seems to me quite a lot of tax for them to spend ?
On 14 May 2017 at 9:10am bobob wrote:
"One learns by living with the consequences of being irresponsible"

Like selling national assets and privatising services? Cutting funding to make hospitals choose between caring for patients or spending money on computers? Closing local schools? Selling housing stock?

We're all learning thanks to Tory governments. I've learnt that I'm getting scr3wed with energy prices, train fares, housing.

I really should be very grateful for this education from tory governments as they sure as hell won't pay for any other form of education.
On 14 May 2017 at 9:25am The Old Mayor wrote:
Plus consider this, there are at least 15 million people MORE here now than in 1970, both paying those taxes and being supported by them.
On 14 May 2017 at 5:21pm Dexter wrote:
Sussex Jim: all you need to know about the bitter old bile filled buffoon & his reality: -
The sort of people you see on "Life on the dole" and "Can't pay? We'll take it away".

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