On 30 Aug 2015 at 5:50pm Jez we can. wrote:
Tony Bliar has accused Jeremy Corbyn`s supporters of living in Wonderland.He also insists that Wonderland is stuffed full of WMDs which could destroy the U.K. within 15 minutes!
On 30 Aug 2015 at 6:21pm Labour member2 wrote:
I am not sure Mr Corbyn's policies are going to needlessly murder thousands of innocent civilians. It is more benign stuff like public ownership of the railways and a 60% top rate of tax. I don't think that kind of policy-making is going to kill anyone. Might upset a few arms dealing capitalist bankers. Mr Blair should be happy about that as he is a former peace envoy.
On 30 Aug 2015 at 7:16pm sid wrote:
Tony bloody blair. . what a waste of space he was . And still his
On 30 Aug 2015 at 8:41pm Newell Fisher wrote:
Keep talking Bliar. It's all helping JC.
On 30 Aug 2015 at 9:22pm Paul Newman wrote:
I find this portrayal of Blair as a right wing evil do-er quite extraordinary, I suppose from Argtur Scargill`s perspective he might look that way....
On 30 Aug 2015 at 10:15pm Newell Fisher wrote:
As well as from the perspective of anyone opposed to illegal wars. Not tough enough for you Newman?
On 30 Aug 2015 at 11:19pm Paul Newman wrote:
The United Kingdom Parliament voted for it that is legal enough and in any case Iraq did not allow complete and unrestricted access to all faciltities.
Anyhoo the UN has no authority other than that given it by Nation Sates and if it is withdrawn then thats that. In my view a failure to supoprt our most important ally and the fulcrum of our security and world security in such circumstances would have been unforgiveable.
As the true nature of the Labour Partyy is visible I see why all the ridiculous dumb show was concocted. I had no idea I thought militant had been kicked out
On 31 Aug 2015 at 1:48am Dingo wrote:
The present Tory party are by and large pretty right wing but Newman`s misogyny, the bile and hatred that oozes out of every pore,the contempt he has for the sick and disabled, his xenophobia and his total wrong headedness suggests he has strong quasi facist tendencies.I wonder how common his mindset is amongst Tories?
On 31 Aug 2015 at 1:54am Newell Fisher wrote:
There is a concept known as international law. Is it perfect? No. But its a damnsight better than individual states doing whatever they please.
There were no WMDs. Blair and Bush lied. As a result an entire region has been destabilised, resulting in the worst refugee crisis since WW2.
Still sticking with your Neo-Liberal fantasy Newman?
On 31 Aug 2015 at 7:26am Darstard wrote:
What a lot of labour supporters don't want to admit is they were responsible for voting for Blair and the policies he pursued.
Rather than focusing on whether he is evil they might follow the information available to conclude he is (was) owned (pawned.)
Modern politicians who rise to power do so through patronage rather than their own guile. Blair was just selling the plans of others to us and he did it very well for a few years.
The best way to find out who he worked for is to observe who pays him and who he doesn't criticize.
On 31 Aug 2015 at 8:27am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
A slagging-off from Blair is worth a hundred endorsements, imo.
All Corbyn needs now is Mandelson to come out and say he's a dangerous extremist and he's home and dry.
On 31 Aug 2015 at 8:44am Paul Newman wrote:
Newell - There is a concept of "International Law" but it is an aggregation of Treaties in this case under the UN umbrella. It is only binding on Nation States if they choose to make it so. It is not the same thing as a speeding limit . The absurd phrase "illegal" war has no reality, I believe there has been one "legal" war, the incursion into the Balkans .
“Dingo” inadvertently raises a good point( in the sense monkey wiping its arse with leaves might generate a discussion of tools ). No doubt to undergraduate far left enemies the Conservative Party contains the devil incarnate, trips up people on crutches and so on. The same language is employed for whatever People`s Popular front of Judea is a cigarette paper`s width to the right of this “breed”.
The Conservative Party however never had a 'rightist' clause 4 , is opposed to extremism supports Parliament and uses ideology only as a tool to further its fundamentally conservative” aims.
It can accommodate a lot but not revolutionary socialist derived ultra Nationalist movements such as Fascism . Facsicts in this country were on close terms with the Labour Party (particularly its left wing , Bevan and Mosely were close) as were Communists .The Conservative Party is more justly criticised for an excess of cynicism.
This is why it has not suffered entry-ism, that and the fact it is not a mass party,’ crusade’ , ‘movement’ or any of these torch light parade inducing synonyms for swivel eyed mob. I think what has happened to the Labour Party is that the minority that has always been quasi Communist extremists have simply re-joined since Kinnock. The only concern I have is that it cannot be good for stability and whilst electorally it is a dead duck , the challenge from this enemy has never been a democratic one. The Unions have brought the government down before.
I personally hope Corbyn wins as I cannot imagine an easier arguement to win but I understand the distase of ordinary people for posturing clowns in public life.
On 31 Aug 2015 at 1:22pm Dingo wrote:
Newman seems obsessed with monkey`s arses,stuffing things in them and other abominations.What can we deduce about his sexual preferences from this simian obsession I wonder?
On 31 Aug 2015 at 2:51pm Newell Fisher wrote:
A word salad signifying.....nothing.
It was an illegal war under the definition of illegal used under international law. Blair is a war criminal. And the Tories went along with him.
Corbyn begins to look like a far safer option.
On 31 Aug 2015 at 4:10pm Mark wrote:
Jeepers Mr Newman! There are communists hiding under my bed. Get a hobby or a sport please!
On 31 Aug 2015 at 4:36pm Clifford wrote:
Poor Paul Newman, working so hard to convince us there is no real difference between New Labour and the Tories.
On 31 Aug 2015 at 9:36pm Auntie Aviator wrote:
Lo and behold, the so-called left wing thinking that the only Labour leader to have won an election for over forty years has absolutely nothing to tell them. (It is, incidentally, seventy years since anyone not called Blair or Wilson won a majority for Labour).
Looks like the country is the Tories' for the next few decades.
On 31 Aug 2015 at 10:31pm Jez we can. wrote:
Inherited majority of 24496, now down to 14096
Inherited majority of 23495, now down to 15428
Inherited majority of 9070 now down to 7203
Inherited majority of 4456, now up to 21194
Even more striking are some figures from the 2010 general election, the night Labour lost power. Its share of the vote in Burnham, Cooper and Kendall's constituencies fell by 15%, 17% and 12% respectively (all worse than the Labour average of 6.2%). However, on a night when the party was taking a pasting across the country, its share of the vote in Corbyn's constituency went up slightly by just over 3%.
On 31 Aug 2015 at 11:24pm Paul Newman wrote:
The if the country was all like North islinnton ( home of the original loony left council)the bearded idiot would be the right man..
On 1 Sep 2015 at 1:27am Highbury Hill. wrote:
A little reminder of Newman`s political past.Even his own party dumped as an electoral liability.What a prat!
“Almost bestially stupid”: top Tory’s verdict on Islington residents
By Mark Pack | Mon 16th April 2007 - 12:12 pm
Paul Newman is Vice-Chair (North) of Islington Conservatives and had this to say recently on Iain Dale‘s blog:
“I have to confess that the denizens of Mildmay [a ward in Islington] are almost bestially stupid . There is not a lot you can do with them…they live from road kill and sleep under Newspaper"
On 1 Sep 2015 at 2:33am Zzz.. wrote:
Ha ha ha, that old chestnut... and so Newman had to leave Islington, and decided to come to Lewes to plague us! :-(
On 1 Sep 2015 at 9:36am Auntie Aviator wrote:
Islington North is not really the Islington of popular stereotype - the Georgian squares of Barnsbury and Canonbury are in Islington South. Islington North is mostly dirt poor (if changing) and contains places like Finsbury Park and Holloway. Neither, though, are at all representative of the UK.