On 13 Nov 2008 at 1:22pm No Pot Pourri wrote:
Good news! I see that the Environment Agency have just applied for planning permission for flood defence works to protect the whole of Cliffe to a 1:100 year standard. Work is expected to be complete by next autumn.
On 13 Nov 2008 at 3:29pm Nosey Parker wrote:
Pardon me for being cynical, but the 1:100 year was calculated many years ago and is no longer valid, the same formula for working out flood risks probably equates to 1:10 nowadays
On 13 Nov 2008 at 3:37pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
Anyway, where was the application announced? I couldn't find anything on the Lewes District Council website.
On 13 Nov 2008 at 4:17pm No Pot Pourri wrote:
Nosey: The 1:100 year event calculation would have been part of the Flood Risk Assessment and other studies carried out. The calculation of predicted flood levels includes an allowance for climate change. What do you base your 1:10 figure on?
The application number is LW/08/1199.
On 13 Nov 2008 at 4:50pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
Are you sure? According to the LDC website:
'Lewes LW/08/1199 Lewes Patterns Ltd South Street
Planning Application - Erection of a detached four bedroom two storey dwelling (demolition of light industrial building)...'
On 13 Nov 2008 at 5:01pm No Pot Pourri wrote:
You are quite right LL. Try LW/08/1288.
On 13 Nov 2008 at 5:06pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
NPP - I can't find LW/08/1288 on the LDC website Planning Applications. Can you give more details about where you found the info please?
On 13 Nov 2008 at 5:08pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
NPP - I can't find LW/08/1288 on the LDC Planning Applications info. Can you give more details on where to find please?
On 13 Nov 2008 at 5:20pm No Pot Pourri wrote:
Go to planning.lewes.gov.uk/PublicAccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_searchform.aspx and type in the application number in the search form.
On 13 Nov 2008 at 5:27pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
NPP - found it at last. Thanks.
On 14 Nov 2008 at 11:18am sashimi wrote:
Hey, here's some good news at last so why not welcome it. Cliffe is getting better defences at last. The 1:100 standard in the application is the standard as it is using current climate change projections. Whilst flood defences always have a downside (push the water elsewhere, trap water that has run off the Downs, etc) they provide a lot of extra protection for the 159 homes and all the businesses it will defend.
On 14 Nov 2008 at 9:51pm cliffe m wrote:
says I need to log on to open that page.
what's the name and password?
On 14 Nov 2008 at 11:23pm Arthur Broomhead wrote:
1:100? - the floods were 8 years ago, so if they're built immediately they're 1:92.
On 16 Nov 2008 at 11:02am sashimi wrote:
Arthur, if you toss a coin you've a 1:2 (50%) chance it will come down heads. If it comes down tails and toss again, it doesn't mean there's 100% chance it'll be heads next time.
On 17 Nov 2008 at 8:25am Arthur Broomhead wrote:
Its all about variables. A coin toss has of course an even chance each time you start with therefore the same odds with each toss. Whether the cliffe floods or not however is not an even chance each year and I was trying to make the point that a 1:100 prediction is flawed. Sea level rises and building on flood plains, just for example, mean that the clock is ticking. As Fraser in Dad's Army said - we're all doomed!
On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:57am No Pot Pourri wrote:
AB: Please refer to my earlier postings.
Unless you have evidence that the flood risk or engineering calculations for this project are wrong, why not accept this as great news for Lewes that the Cliffe cell will be defended against an event that has a 1% chance of occurring in any year?
Comments made on this forum that are based purely on cynicism do nothing to advance discussion or promote the reasoning abilities of the author.
On 17 Nov 2008 at 4:03pm Arthur Broomhead wrote:
NPP: No cynicism in my postings. I don't think this is "good news"- just something to keep everyone quiet. Its too little too late. 3 foot 6 went through my house and I was one of the lucky ones.