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Cameron Scared Off By TV Election Debate

On 16 Apr 2015 at 11:05pm Hector wrote:
Cameron not having nerve to go to the BBC Election Debate say's loads about the Tories.. No one missed the Tosser Dave or Nick Clegg either. Good riddance. Its just a shame that they had to nearly cripple the Country before they go.
On 16 Apr 2015 at 11:49pm scared wrote:
Don't assume they are going. They are itching to get their hands on public assets for their city cronies a second time.
On 17 Apr 2015 at 6:57am Paul Newman wrote:
Milliband did appear to advantage next to the gaping beaks from Wales and Scotland and the unpleasantly smug Green. Farrage is, in his way also something of a gift, but he has changed the terms on immigration and it badly needed doing.
To me it was a ridiculous process because it lacked scale .It would be improved by making each speaker appear the size of their popular vote
Milliband would be five times the size of Bennett and the Welsh woman ,an inaudible gnat. Farrage , to give him his pre-squeeze ‘popular’ size would be just under half the size of Miliband.
Sturgeon would be about the size of a can of coke and have a voice like a weeny smurf, in fact as only 30% or so of her votes can really be counted as UK votes she should be no more than a thimble.
This would make the spectacle of her instructing Milliband on what he will and will not be allowed to do appear the democratic outrage it is . and the sight of his fear all the more pathetic.
As I have always said an SNP Labour government is what we are going to get , it hardlky bears thinking about

PS On the South WEst Poll , it does appear that moderate Liberals are indeed defecting to the Conservatives in protest at the prospect of rule by Sturgeon
On 17 Apr 2015 at 7:54am Mark wrote:
Aah... I see you've invented a new way spinning the situation in the SW since yesterday. Good work. At what point in the day did you have your Eureka moment?
On 17 Apr 2015 at 8:07am pn wrote:
It was on the TV last night and it is the reason for the Blue-Kip idea of the Liberals which tries to pretend the SNP 50 seat threat is the same as the UKIP 2 seat threat.
It looks as though people have noticed what I have been saying for ages which si that the Liberals will be obliged to support a Labour SNP administration and so are irrelevant
So the Liberals have seen 2 major defections
1 They lost all their left wing votes to Green and Labour
2 They are now losing their right wing votes to the Conservative Party
On 17 Apr 2015 at 8:20am bad for Cam wrote:
It looked really bad for Cam and even worse for Clegg last night, especially when it transpired that Clegg had wanted to be there but was told not to! Ed Milliband came across really well and moved into the ground Clegg would have taken. Labour are now the bookies favourite to run the next government and I think even maybe as a minority party. I am feeling hopeful for the future of this country for the first time in a long time.
On 17 Apr 2015 at 8:31am lewes resident wrote:
I think it was very clever of David Cameron not to take part. It showed how the rest of them are a bunch of bickering lefties , and Miliband as prime minister? Not a good advert for Britain on the world stage.
On 17 Apr 2015 at 9:14am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Anyone remember the episode of HIGNFY when Roy Hattersley refused to take part and his empty place was taken by a tub of lard?
They should have done something similar last night. Cameron's lectern could have had a chicken on it and Clegg's could have had a poodle.
On 17 Apr 2015 at 9:21am Belladonna wrote:
Funnily enough I didn't even notice Clegg wasn't there until halfway through. Again I thought the women came across well.
PN - your comments about all three women are just idiotic and nonsensical.
The smaller parties are changing the face of politics in this country. I'm glad we are finally seeing all of them being taken seriously, not just the media obsession with UKIP.
Farage is sinking thankfully - his comments on immigration and the NHS were offensive and wrong
On 17 Apr 2015 at 9:37am Mark wrote:
@PN. I was on a night shift last night. I missed out on TV. I'm just off to bed. Anything I write on here is probably written with a sandwich in left hand. We work bloody hard in the NHS. The most efficient form of healthcare provision in the world.
On 17 Apr 2015 at 10:14am PN wrote:
Nigel Farrages comments on housing were patently correct, more people need more houses Personally I feel that although the scale of EU migration is a problem much of it is helpful and although its benefit to the exchequer is illusory ( they will get old too), it is a type of migration that we can accommodate ( Non EU migration is another story… celebrate what ? ) . Still, as he said demand and supply includes demand and denying it is a bourgeois fatuity that insults the intelligence of the working family
I am not sure how much “women” would appreciate being represented by a congenital idiot like Natalie Bennet and a confused local councillor who wandered in by mistake from Wales .
There was only one woman there who matted and that La Sturgeon who set about telling Milliband what he would be allowed to do by MPs with no right to vote on England and Wales outside of foreign affairs .
The bottom line is this .40-50 SNP MPs will get Milliband in . This is travesty; no-one in England will be able to trust a word the PM says because he will have to agree everything with Sturgeon behind closed doors syphoning funds to the Scots . This is why his history of betrayal and deceit is important
On 17 Apr 2015 at 10:51am Podium filler wrote:
Cameron's podium should have a bottle of chateau Margaux and a blank cheque to his city friends and Clegg's should have an I.O.U to all the thousands of students he betrayed!
On 17 Apr 2015 at 11:02am Brady wrote:
Milliband looked in control. Bennett looked flustered as ever and had a tantrum which did not look good. Farage also had a tantrum but in a more controlled way but made him look worse. He attacked a carefully chosen audience who clearly liked the personality and message of the other parties and did not like him or his policies so rather than take it like a man he decided to blame the audience like a bad workman.
Sturgeon came across as conciliatory and genuinely concerned for a solution to austerity Britain. Leanne Wood held her corner well. I thought it was a much more interesting debate than the last one. The shape of modern British politics is changing and I think for the better.
On 17 Apr 2015 at 11:13am pn wrote:
Sturgeon came across as conciliatory and genuinely concerned for a solution to austerity Britain
1 She has not been elected to govern England , so who gives f-- how 'concerned' she is.
2 The solution to austerity is like the cure for a hangover. Don`t get drunk the night before, unfortunately Labour did , so we are stuck with it.
If you think that dispensing with democracy is a change for the better you are a sick sick puppy
On 17 Apr 2015 at 11:28am Fairmeadow wrote:
Why was Nicola Sturgeon there at all - she is not even standing in the election? Should have been an SNP candidate who is like Alec Salmon. And why do all the SNP leaders I have ever heard of have fishy names?
On 17 Apr 2015 at 11:45am Brady wrote:
I think you should give a f because she will play a key role in the next five years of government. The Conservatives shape policy and take taxes in Scotland and yet have virtually no MPs there. The system is a bit strange I will admit but that is what the Westminster parties wanted. Politics is a very strange business. And yes I am one sick puppy!
On 17 Apr 2015 at 12:09pm pn wrote:
Five years. No someone will have to seek a mandate you can`t govern without MPs elected to legislate on the UK . You remark about Conservatives in Scotland is a silly one many regions of the UK only rarely get their choice ( the South East has never voted for Labour for example ).
In fact these are the numbers of Scottish voters in 2010. How many SNP votes are there in Sussex ?
Labour 1034528
Lib 465471
SNP 412855
Con 412855
It is not what the Westminster Parties wanted .The Conservative Party have English Votes in their manifesto and no-one thinks matters can rest here .
You don`t understand the problem?
Scotland is now only loosely federated to the UK, we do not get a say on anything much that happens there. They cannot go on sending MPs to London to make English law and certainly not set the whole agenda for government.
It is not democratic .
On 17 Apr 2015 at 12:30pm Factchecker wrote:
I am pleased to see , PN, that you have bought up housing again. (is there a crisis in London, or isn't there?) This time could you explain how you are using Rightmove to support your view that there are loads of cheap one bedroom flats in London, selling for £150,000.
On 17 Apr 2015 at 1:25pm Brady wrote:
How will that be any different if the Conservatives get back in Paul? Do they have anything in their manifesto to change this situation? If we take all left/right arguments out of the equation and the fact that Labour have ruled out a coalition with the SNP. What will the Tories do to remedy this problem? My only thought is that they had the opportunity to sort this out with the referendum but all the parties and the press bombarded the Scottish voter with propaganda and tales of disaster if they left. Now you are saying they are being undemocratic by voting on English issues. Do you think the referendum was undemocratic?
On 18 Apr 2015 at 11:23am Country Boy wrote:
In some respects, having a recession is a bit like going on a diet. It forces those organisations / businesses that have grown too heavy to trim a bit of fat. The job isn't finished yet, but some people seem ready to start bingeing again.

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