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CE marks. Brexiteers .Do you REALLY understand?

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On 27 Aug 2018 at 2:28pm Dave Seaward wrote:
I suspect folks donít understand just how completely and utterly sh*t this is for any UK business that exports physical products anywhere in the world. I run a business that exports high value added, one of a kind, custom machines. Our machines typically make the next generation of medical devices. Even our big corporate American customers demand CE marks on machinery as a badge of safety along with their own UL certs. The Chinese and most other countries also request it. Currently my business has invested in the systems to carry out the required checks and, being in Europe, we currently have the legal authority to self certificate. Because we know what we are doing and because our machines are designed from the ground up to the relevant standards it takes a few days and costs a few £1000s to CE mark one of our machines. As a third country we would need a notified body based in the EU to do it for us. There is currently a growing waiting list of around 3-4 month and a cost of ~£30k to get a notified body in from Europe for our kind of equipment. I know because occasionally we go down this route for imported machines that we havenít designed. It hits the critical path of a programme as the machine generally needs to be complete before you can book. We build one off custom machines so EVERY machine we build needs it's own CE mark approval. Get your head around a 4 month delay and an extra £30k of cost on contracts. A typical machine can take 5 months and cost around £200k. Imagine telling customers they have to wait another 3 months and we have to charge another 10-15% against our competition which is generally Italian or German..... oh and by the way we don't know what import tariffs will be. There is a massive shortage of trained inspectors so I suspect the delay will get longer. If we cant CE mark our own machines then we simply cant export, and not just to Europe. This isnít project fear this is the reality businesses up and down the UK have to deal with. ANY deal is better than a no deal and staying in Europe is better than any deal suggested thus far: this is one of the very many reasons why I support the #peoplesvote

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On 27 Aug 2018 at 2:30pm Eric wrote:
Eric Goodyer I am old enough to remember pre EU days - when we had to design different products for every export market - one for France, one for germany, one for Poland etc etc - and each country demanded that we validate the product in their test labs for national certification (£5 minimum per county and that was the 1970's). The EU has delivered a bonfire of regulations, merging 28 national sets of regs into 1 unified system.
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 2:43pm Nancy wrote:
I'm sure if the people voting for Brexit had realised that you'd be inconvenienced then they'd have voted differently.
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 2:58pm Ron wrote:
It would have been nice if someone had given a s... for all the workers who lost out over the last 40years due to EU competition.
Its true, poor, unemployed people don't mind middle class business owners suffering. They don't see them as "us". Its more honest this way isn't it?
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 3:12pm Shut up wrote:
I hope you go bust you remoaning traitor
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 3:45pm @shup up wrote:
You're the traitor, trashing your own country and future of your kids for the sake of your bigoted, ignorant views
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 4:30pm little englander wrote:
Its because the Brexiters want horses and carts trolling the streets of Lewes, and horrible English food to be served in all the eateries, none of that nasty foreign muck. It is of course obvious that most of the people on this forum are very much against any change or anything different happening.
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 4:44pm Dying wrote:
Get a life. Live in the moment. All your squabbling is pointless
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 5:14pm Brexiteer. wrote:
As I have work at manufacturing for 20+ years for military and medical industries. Get yourself an apprentice asap. You probably have a large turnover. Invest in your staff. I personally know aviation inspectors. And the tit above. What's wrong with English food. Enjoy Sunday lunch next week. Goon.
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 5:18pm Sketchup wrote:
Surely all your goods are already ce marked.
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 5:42pm Name changed but posted wrote:
Please state your companies turnover. Otherwise its just you whining its costing you money lol. Support local people get an apprentice and an experienced inspector. It will cost little and could save your business. Don't take all profit, invest in your staff and local economy!
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On 27 Aug 2018 at 9:25pm Hello dave wrote:
As with most drivel on here the original post was a cut n paste job. These political types clearly have no mind of their own. What a bunch of sheep.

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On 27 Aug 2018 at 9:58pm Remainer wrote:
Mr Seaward is completely right. We've just come back from our villa in Portugal and my husband is worried sick about prospects for his hospitality business. He depends on the reasonable and efficient labour he gets from Europe thanks to free movement. He just can't afford to be held to ransom by the kind of people who voted Brexit with their demands for pay rises. All sensible people are hoping for a referendum so good sense can prevail and we can all sleep safely in our beds again.
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On 28 Aug 2018 at 12:51am Glenn wrote:
@Remainer. Definitive proof that brexitters cant do satire.
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On 28 Aug 2018 at 5:59am Sensible wrote:
The sovereignty Britain will bring to itself upon Brexit means we can create far higher standards of excellence than the cesspit of compromise that the EU currently imposes upon this country. THEY will be coming to US, remembering that Britain's standards pre 1973 were far higher than any found on the Continent. Today, you still can't drink the water over there. Do you really think that economic incompetents such as Greece or Spain can possibly be part of a decision-making process on manufacturing standards? Buy British and the world will follow.
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On 28 Aug 2018 at 11:12am Colonel Furnell wrote:
@Sensible ,Hear! Hear! How totally spiffing!


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