On 19 Oct 2016 at 4:20pm What do you know... wrote:
So it's official then, Brexit is cancelled.
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On 19 Oct 2016 at 5:09pm The Greek wrote:
Good. Took them longer to decide on the runway at Heathrow than this botched mess!
On 19 Oct 2016 at 5:37pm Sussex Jim wrote:
Brexit is a democratic decision voted on by the PEOPLE. The incumbent government has a duty to execute our withdrawal from the EU. All the MPs' can do is discuss and vote on the finer points- but we are definitely going OUT.
On 19 Oct 2016 at 6:57pm Charlie Fairhead wrote:
I only voted OUT because I want the promised millions spent on the NHS. If that's not going to happen, I'd rather stay in Europe.
On 19 Oct 2016 at 8:01pm Brexit Sceptic wrote:
Surely nobody believed the NHS baloney, did they?
On 19 Oct 2016 at 8:11pm Dexter wrote:
Jim. Can you tell me just exactly where it says in law that the recent plebiscite is legally binding?
You really shouldn't believe all you read the Daily Mail, no matter what it, the Express or the Sun says, it will be up to the Parliament of this country to take us out of the European Union. It's called a Parliamentary Democracy.
Our vote only expressed a marginal desire to leave the EU, nothing more.
Sorry, got to go, just heard the dog whistle.
On 19 Oct 2016 at 8:59pm Charlie Fairhead wrote:
@Brexit Sceptic ... surely nobody believed that Brexit would mean the end of immigration, did they?
Not even Theresa May, if the newspapers are to be believed.
On 20 Oct 2016 at 9:14am Slarty wrote:
That article says "Parliament has the right to reject the final Brexit deal". That means that the deal can be rejected, not Brexit.
From what I've read, it appears to me that once Article 50 is declared the UK has 2 years to negotiate an exit. But, once Article 50 is implemented, we are out of the EU after 2 years. So, if the deal is not to the MPs liking, then we leave with no deal - but we have to leave.
And we cannot start negotiations until Article 50 starts. So we have to say we are going before we can even talk about what the final deal will be.
On 20 Oct 2016 at 1:24pm What do you know... wrote:
@Slarty, you need to look at the full picture (and what little facts are known):
1. Article 50 sets 2 years for negotiations
2. It can be exceed this in 2 ways, either the terms agreed include an exit date after the 2 year period or the 2 year negotiation period is extended
3. No mention of whether notice to leave can be withdrawn or not (Donald Tusk seems to think it can)
If we leave by default after 2 years of triggering article 50 and parliament need to agree the deal for it to be legal we're stuck in a catch 22, we can't guarantee to have a deal (or that parliament will have accepted that deal), therefore it cannot be triggered or they run the risk of illegally taking us out of the EU.
Remember most MP's are pro EU, no deal will be reached unless it's a very soft Brexit (probably the same as no Brexit, probably much less rights than we currently have).
On 20 Oct 2016 at 1:51pm Slarty wrote:
Thanks for the update. I couldn't find anywhere that Article 50 could be withdrawn and a lot of places saying it can't (but I guess Tusk should know what he's talking about).
I think that the 2-year extension can only be extended with ALL member states agreeing. If we cannot agree an exit in 2 years, it is likely that at least one state is playing silly buggers which may mean that they will not extend the discussions though.
On 20 Oct 2016 at 5:19pm The Greek wrote:
Can Brexiteers type OUT without it being in CAPITALS?
On 20 Oct 2016 at 7:27pm Horace wrote:
I see the puerile remainers are suddenly interested in parliamentary democracy now it could be of use in subverting the result of the referendum which by the way Cameron said quite clearly on a televised address that the result would be implemented and would mean leaving the single market.
They were quite happy previously in voting to obliterate it within an autocratic empire.
On 21 Oct 2016 at 1:49pm Slarty wrote:
The joys of trade negotiations with the EU. A 7-year negotiation about to fail because of a (relatively) few people in one area of Belgium. An area of 3.6 million people out of 743 million people in the EU object and the deal may get pulled.
Don't fancy the UKs chances of getting a deal for everything in two years.
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