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Brexit: NHS managers warn about impact of no deal

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On 22 Aug 2018 at 4:07pm Brexit the Truth. wrote:
Mark Dayan, policy analyst at the Nuffield Trust, said "a large degree of chaos" was "implicit" in a no-deal Brexit
No sh~t, Sherlock!The group representing hospitals and ambulance services in England has warned of a lack of "contingency planning" to deal with the impact of a no-deal Brexit on the health service.
In a leaked email to NHS England boss Simon Stevens, NHS Providers says leaving the EU without agreement would immediately be a real risk to services.
The group warns it would make it harder to stop the spread of diseases.
NHS England said preparing for every possible Brexit outcome was a priority.
The Department of Health said it was confident of reaching a Brexit deal that benefits the NHS but was preparing for "the unlikely event of no-deal", to prevent disruption to patients.


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On 22 Aug 2018 at 4:22pm Yawn wrote:
But then again everything might be fine.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 4:56pm silversurf wrote:
More dross from project fear...
Why on earth would the existing staff leave their jobs after Brexit. A lot of non-UK staff have moved to the UK to work as the pay and conditions are better than their own country.
It has been made quite clear already that their status will be the same as it is today.
The NHS will be free to recruit international staff from a global talent pool.
This can only be a positive thing.
When we've got a points based system for recruitment (like Australia) we'll be able to pick and choose the best candidates for the job.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 5:33pm endoftheouse wrote:
Never hear these analysts talking about the years and years of health tourism that cost the UK 2 Billion a year.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 5:40pm Dexter wrote:
Blah Blah Bluster Project Fear.
It's not. The fact is (and it is a fact no matter how much certain people want to put their head in the stand) there is a recruitment crisis in the NHS.
It's not only the fact that nurses (and doctors) are going home/not coming; this government removed the nurses bursary and that had a massive negative impact on nurse recruitment.
Add to that the pathetic take up of their 'working apprenticeships' and it's all heading south, but that's nothing new to Conservative NHS dogma is it?
Maybe the swivel eyed deniers of reality can pull something out of their magic unicorn pen before it hits the buffers though.
They'll be at the back of a very long queue.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 5:44pm You morons wrote:
I hope that the fingers in ears Brexit morons commenting on this thread are the first to really suffer when the going gets rough as it inevitably will.Unfortunately the disastrous affects of this idiotic brexit will affect us all, not just these nationalist blockheads and pound shop fascists. A pox on the lot of you.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:04pm @above wrote:
At least we Brexiteers don't resort to childish name calling.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:13pm Had enough of Brexidiots wrote:
I hope they refuse to treat you and throw you out of the hospital.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:20pm Hamid Barr wrote:
Some vile comments on here from the usual zealots. Put your rattles back in the pram
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:35pm Humid Barmy wrote:
Communist Goblins and Witches EVERYWHERE!
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:39pm Clifford wrote:
First Brexit itself was the disaster. Now 'leaving without an agreement' will be the disaster. Thecampaign to reverse the result continues. Perhaps the EU should set about negotiating rather than trying to find ways of punishing us for having the nerve to vote to leave. As we know, Macron said if the French were given the choice - which they won't be - they'd probably vote to leave too.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:40pm Earl of Lewess wrote:
Who does these threads? Is it a local person, or just some activist doing a copy and paste job on different websites? I'm intrigued.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:47pm Suzie Slacknickers wrote:
@Hamid Barr Oh Hammy you are SO MASTERFULL! Take me darling,take me NOW!!
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:52pm Clitford wrote:
George Soros..............mumble............Goldman Sachs..........mumble mumble.... NWO..........mumble mumble mumble..........The Deep state..........mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mum.....
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 6:54pm Clitford wrote:
Oh! Did I forget to mention Goldman Sachs?
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 7:30pm Rabid Harm wrote:
Usual dose of massive laughable hypocricy from the rabid name caller in chief himself Hamid Barr.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 8:32pm esme wrote:
Unfortunately the use of the phrase 'Project fear' is another deceiving trick utilised by extreme Conservative 'hard' Brexit MPs such as Rees Mogg, Liam Fox, Michael Gove, Boris Johnson etc. It immediately dismisses and trivialises any statements from impartial informed observers, such as in this case NHS providers and the Nuffield Trust. It shows no respect for well earned balanced expertise and knowledge, and deftly lets the 'project fear' raiser off the hook from having to deliver a sentient argued reply; it is a crass vulgar trick that seeks to politicise and instantly shut down any proper debate. It shows how little these grandees respect ordinary people's ability to form opinion and make judgement. I write as someone who voted leave, but not as someone who shouts slogans and deceives with false facts and the shutting down of debate. Neither am I someone who wants Britain to become a low cost tax haven in order to benefit the 'filthy' rich.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 11:18pm Clifford wrote:
I must say i do enjoy the fact that pointing out that the highly principled bankers and friends of the people Goldman Sachs urged us to vote Remain in 2016 does seem to have struck a nerve here. Far be it from me to add that they were accompanied by the austerity kings Cameron and Osborne, those other well known friends of the people.
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On 22 Aug 2018 at 11:37pm Clitford wrote:
Did I mention George Soros yet? I've forgotten.
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On 23 Aug 2018 at 2:12am Brexit Casualties wrote:
When I look at my autistic brother, I’m scared of what people like him might lose because of Brexit
You’ll understand, then, that the news that Brexit could mean a UK shortage of nearly 400,000 care workers by 2026 if we leave the EU without a deal on free movement has personal resonance for me. Perhaps it does for you, too: perhaps you have an elderly parent, a disabled relative, or a child who has been released from hospital, and you can’t manage on your own. So an industry reliant on the free movement of EU labour steps in, an industry already suffering from a shortage of 90,000 staff – a vacancy rate of 6.6 per cent – as a result of years of austerity.


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On 23 Aug 2018 at 4:32pm bored wrote:
@ Clifford. If the French have been wrongly convinced that all their problems are caused by Brussels then yes, they may well vote to leave. As we're finding out here though it's not all sunshine and rainbows in Brexit Land.

Instead we are reinforcing motorway shoulders to serve as truck parks, stockpiling medicines and we've gone from 'Brexit will be a boon for business and trade
' to '#@£% business'. If you can't swap a bait and switch by uncaring people who will be fine as they are very rich then you're clearly not paying attention.


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