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Brewers Arms - how about some community action?

On 9 May 2011 at 6:35pm David wrote:
Im sick of the noise and filth coming out of the Brewers - the drunks are making an incredible aount of noise donw the side passage - urinating there and over in the car park - one guy was passed out in front of Delilahs this weekend whilst his friend sluiced down the vomit on her doorstep. Vile, disgusting and animalistic behaviour - wish I had a Harry Potter cloak so I could go out and smack their stupid spotty weasel faces.
On 9 May 2011 at 8:22pm huw wrote:
First step to resolving this kind of problem is not wishing yourself invisible to mete out street justice, or to complain on an internet forum but to phone or visit the establishment in question.
Also, it is very difficult to blame one pub for all behaviour on the high street.
Yes, people's behaivour after a few drinks can be more than a little irritating, but no licensee wants to produce antisocial customers and should welcome constructive comments from neighbours.
Approach Kathy, I'm sure she would not put up with her customers urinating in the alley or behaving in the manner you portray.
On 9 May 2011 at 9:07pm MC wrote:
Why do we think that getting brain-dead-less on alcohol is normal and acceptable?

My family used a train for the first time in a long while this weekend. On the way back from Brighton to Lewes at 8.30pm we made the mistake of taking some seats near to some young men sharing a bottle of whiskey and necking cans of beer like there was no tomorrow. In the end we moved seats as the language was so foul and the attitude so aggressive that even the two 9 years olds wanted to get away from them.

We alighted at Lewes station to find a group of youths sitting on the platform steps swigging beer and swearing. Again, the behavior was not moderated one iota as two nine year olds walked past. Walking to the car another group occupied the exit from the car park. The same insensitive behavior and attitude.

I remembered the last time I took my son and his friend on public transport at a weekend. We had the misfortune to get on a train full of "football fans" getting as pissed up as they could on the way to a match. The same insensitive, cocooned and brutish behavior... seemingly unaware of anyone else around them and the effect they were having on them.

I am convinced that alcohol use (not abuse as it's considered normal!) is a major UK disease and damages the fabric of our society in ways that are not at all acknowledged or understood. Aggression, violence and unutterable desensitisation.
Has anyone ever been to casualty on a saturday night? I dread having to take my child.

It's not just the Brewers, it's our culture.
On 9 May 2011 at 9:23pm Kathy wrote:
I am the landlady of the Brewers and I would like to apologise to all our neighbours for the incident on Saturday night.
However, in defence of the group of lads concerned, I must say that I found them to be polite and apologetic about the state of their friend. To their credit, they volunteered to clear up after him, and they stayed with him, and helped him home.
In our defence, I would like to say that they arrived at about 10.50pm and the lad concerned must have got drunk somewhere else.
We try and monitor the noise levels in the passageway by the pub, and I have not been made aware that people have been urinating there.
I would hope that this was an isolated incident and that if any of our neighbours had any concerns, they would in future feel able to bring it to our attention personally.
On 9 May 2011 at 10:39pm Soberasajudge wrote:
I was in the Brewers at 10:50 and can vouch for what Kathy said. Only one of the lads was out of it and it seemed the rest were taking care of him so I went to the Lewes Arms for a cheeky one (or two) before midnight....
On 10 May 2011 at 8:43am Hedley Lamarr wrote:
The Brewers is a fine pub - probably the best in Lewes and its my local. I am never out at that time of night so don't see that sort of behaviour but as a pub it is well run and normallly the bahviour there is good. Lets not single out the Brewers please. Kathy. Keep up the good work!
On 10 May 2011 at 9:11am Lewes Armies wrote:
I'm guessing it could have been the same group of lads who were earlier [than 10:50pm] ejected from The Lewes Arms since one of them was rougher than all the others and throwing up all over that pub. They were clearly underage
On 10 May 2011 at 10:17am Extra wrote:
Kathy says that they arrived at 10.50pm and must have got drunk somewhere else. She had the right and responsibility as a someone in charge of licensed premises not to serve them and/or ask them to leave the premises. The law is quite clear.
On 10 May 2011 at 10:52am Lewes Pub Veteran wrote:
Good to see the young generation keeping the old traditions going.
Anyone remember the Lamb in the 90's with John 'Bushwhacker' Saunders? The greatest landlord ever to grace the beer pumps of Lewes.
On 10 May 2011 at 2:10pm jrsussex wrote:
The way to deal with problems emnating from licensed premises, drunkeness. anti-social behaviour etc, is as a first step to approach the holder of the Premise Licence or the Personal Licence holder and make them aware of the problem. Do so in a reasonable manner without losing your temper. They then have the opportunity to investigate and let you know what they have done in an attempt to solve the matter.
If, after your discussion with them, they do nothing then report them to your local Licensing Authority and/or the police.
On 10 May 2011 at 10:48pm MikeyBeeeee wrote:
I was walking past The Brewers Arms at about 11.30ish. I saw these lads sitting outside the shop next door (Delilah) Most of them seemed very with it and was washing away their mates vom. (don't think I would do it if that was my mate) The lady I saw was giving them the water to wash the sick away with and bought out a sick bowl (which the lad refused to use) To me this doesn't sound like a land lady who is irresponsible! And i think that holding just one pub responsible for urinating in a public car park silly. This is a walk through from all pubs in lewes after closing time for people to get back home and you can only (rightly) assume that people leaving any pub in lewes may use a car park as a loo. I am 26 and have been id'd many times in this pub and i look older than the lads sitting outside so i find it very unlikely that they were served under age. I am in agreement with Hew. Why waste your time facelessly complaining over the internet when you could have just gone into the pub and had a word on the side about your issues. To me this seems like a school boy grudge you have against either the pub or the land lady herself

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