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Another sad sight

On 17 Sep 2020 at 12:46pm middleclassandabitsmug wrote:
Anyone seen the woodland removal at the top of the footpath to the golf course going off Chapel Hill. Complete devastation of a mature piece of woodland by the golf course at the ‘request’ of a house owner who wanted the view improved and who just happens to be a property developer. Result: Owls and bats displaced and increased water run off down Chapel Hill - already a problem in heavy rain. Apparently more devastation is planned. The golf course should be ashamed of such short termism
On 19 Sep 2020 at 8:00am SomeLewesian wrote:
We need more overpriced expensive houses, though.
On 19 Sep 2020 at 7:36pm Unconvinced wrote:
Hearsay or fact? Precisely what is the short-termism that you accuse the golf club of? Short-termism usually manifests itself in failing to manage the countryside!
On 19 Sep 2020 at 9:17pm Tom Pain wrote:
The saddest sight is the streets full of people wearing muzzles. I was very surprised to learn today that in 1969 the flu killed 84,000 people. I suppose that was because we had a labour government at the time and they were too uncaring to have a lockdown. Not that I'd have noticed at the time, I was too busy getting blazed and walking around with a spring in my step and Tom PainE was just a name on a plaque at the Bull House tearoom. I really fancied myself as a revolutionary in those days, I was a teenager then. Who'd have thought that in the future a computer mogul would have had so much financial clout that he could buy off a world health organisation and be the first megalomaniac with the ambition to inject the world population? And at the same time genetically re-engineer their immune systems with no knowledge of the long term consequences! Perhaps we should have had a revolution.
On 20 Sep 2020 at 9:43am Ferret wrote:
It is sad, Tom Pain without an e. The sooner we all get the vaccine the better. Then there will be no need for masks or social distancing. I hope you're wearing yours, or at least staying well away from your fellow human beings.
At least things are much better in Lewes District than almost everywhere else in the country. Hardly any daily cases according to the PHE dashboard. Let's keep it that way by obeying the rules, and more. It seems most of our fellow citizens are doing a great job of keeping the stroppy old pandemic deniers and mask refusers healthy.
On 20 Sep 2020 at 9:44pm Tom Pain wrote:
I'm certainly not wearing some one else's,ferret without a doubt. I love the *pandemic deniers*,nice touch, you old immune system denier. Judging by the mortality figures which have remained steady whilst the * cases *have risen,it looks like herd immunity has been achieved. All this in spite of the statistics being *with* covid, not *of* covid and the government created hysteria. Did you know that they are subsidising the media as is Wild Bill Gates? Don't the 1969 figures make you wonder what all the fuss is about? They were of the flu, not just with it and didn't count every test made on one person as separate deaths as has been happening. Your faith in government is touching ,but I fear a touch optimistic.
On 21 Sep 2020 at 2:32pm Ferret wrote:
Herd immunity is all about infection rates, not death rates. Death rates remain low even when infection rates rise because the old and vulnerable have been keeping out of trouble as far as possible. But they are rising, because sadly they can't keep away from the young and careless completely. And I can't imagine why you would consider wearing someone else's mask. I take your comment as meaning you are now wearing one. Well done. Your other paranoid nonsense is not worth replying to.
On 21 Sep 2020 at 9:31pm Tom Pain wrote:
Herd immunity is about getting infected, beating it and having little or no symptoms. I don't subscribe to the populist nonsense about unsymptomatic carriers, it's theoretic at best and fear mongering at worst or dare I say,a paranoid conspiracy theory talked up by a lying government's spin Dept. I notice you conveniently ignore the 1969 statistic.
On 22 Sep 2020 at 8:28am Green Sleeves wrote:
If the evidence about asymptomatic carriers is far from conclusive, that shouldn't automatically mean we can ditch the basic precautions to reduce risk. Wearing a mask, washing hands and not shaking other peoples hands is barely any price to pay at all, even if no virus ever existed.

You can call us all paranoid and fearful, but I guess we could say you are the same for constantly fretting about some sort of deep state conspiracy or another your entire life. At least wearing a mask in a shop doesn't consume my every waking moment.

Sharp rise in cases over in Spain and France...including in deaths. We can see the infections rising here, but you know what I'm just gonna disregard this because I hate being told by the overlords to do something as enslaving as wearing a mask in Waitrose for 15 minutes to suppress a silly virus. Shaking hands with people used to make my I can't and my life is over. Wahhhh. I refuse to let the guy that designed Windows 95 win this fake war.
On 22 Sep 2020 at 12:17pm Ferret wrote:
@Tom Pain And what about the tens of thousands of people who would have to die in order for the herd to gain immunity? The survivors of a plague may well be immune for a while, but possibly not forever, and they may also have suffered irreparable organ damage which leads to an early death, or at least a lifetime of incapacity. As I've said to you before, you may be willing to sacrifice yourself for the sake of the human race, but most of us are not so altruistic. The Bolton surge has been blamed on social media pandemic deniers. Why do you persist with this nonsense?
On 22 Sep 2020 at 10:35pm Tom Pain wrote:
Oh,oh Pancetta's squealing again. Your diseased imagination is working overtime, stop looking in the mirror,get that mask off, you're breathing in too much CO2. Your every masked moment may be the pinnacle of your life but it concerns me not a jot. Isn't there enough fear mongering on the TV for you,enough of the propaganda, without you repeating it? Is a questioning voice too much for you to handle, that you have to go into snide overdrive? You talk of nonsense, the constantly changing government advice,the U turns,the contradictions and exaggerations are enough for me.
Shame on you ferret, 1969? And have you seen the WHO predictions on world mortality as a consequence of the lockdown and compared them to herd immunity casualties? Will that dry your crocodile tears? Perhaps "The Jab, featuring Glaxo Smith Kline" might cool your ardour for the holy vaccine to come. That makes me think this Coronafever is like a religion with the passionate faith in it's scientific priests, the belief in the mask fetish and the bitter hatred of heretics. Eminently suitable for atheists, oh yes and the secular apotheosis of Pearly Gates.
On 23 Sep 2020 at 10:22am Ferret wrote:
Thank you for confirming what every normal person must know by now. Your ravings are just that. Take care with your health, both physical and mental.
On 23 Sep 2020 at 9:42pm Tom Pain wrote:
Your condescending attitude can't hide the glaring absence of an answer to any of the points I have made, raving or not. Another little statistic for you to avoid~ this winter more old people will die of the cold than have died from and with covid this year.
On 24 Sep 2020 at 9:37am Ferret wrote:
Wrong choice of word there, Tom. It's not condescension, it's pity.
On 24 Sep 2020 at 10:58am Tom Pain wrote:
Thanks for the correction, it's a great help in narrowing down the description. I think mendacious hypocrisy is probably a more appropriate expression of your attitude,although that doesn't go far enough. Save your sanctimony for something more important like grammatical correctness, political correctness or,in the real world the precise siting and correct wording of street signage.
On 24 Sep 2020 at 11:03am Ferret wrote:
There's more to life than wild conspiracy theories and mad ideas about the pandemic. All those things you mention are very important to me, besides a love of family, the well-being of my neighbours, the environment, truth, justice and a decent pint of beer. Let's keep a sense of perspective. We are living in extraordinary times.
On 24 Sep 2020 at 12:12pm Tom Pain wrote:
Couldn't agree with you more, the wild theories invented by such miserable,serial fantasists as imperial college's Ferguson about the pandemic are to be deplored. Why the government or it's sage ( ? ) advisors should take notice of such a serial auger of non existent disasters is a mystery which one can only theorise on. I realise that theories are repugnant to the incurious and complacent but a report from the Daily Telegraph 2.9.20 might suggest at least one theory to explain it. They report that Sir Patrick Vallance has a 600,000 pound shareholding in a firm contracted to supply vaccines! Probably you would find nothing to say about the situation, but an abnormal conspiracy theorist could detect a conflict of interest there. I await your insulting, and yes, condescending reply with no expectation of the slightest regard for the content but a stinging critique of my personal flaws of character.
On 24 Sep 2020 at 1:48pm Ferret wrote:
You do know that it's 'its sage advisors'. No apostrophe required unless it's an abbreviation, or rather elision, for 'it is'. Just trying to be helpful. Sorry I can't hang around to wait for your indignant reply. I've got a hedge to trim between showers.
On 24 Sep 2020 at 8:43pm Nevillman wrote:
I'm not sure that is helpful ferret. Tom's meaning is not remotely helped by the absence of the apostrophe. It is clear what he is saying. Your post suggests that the true meaning of the apostrophe is to allow some people to give the appearance of responding without actually having to go to the trouble of trying to understand what the other person is going on about. In the circumstances of responding to Tom's post, I completely understand you're post and will start to support the use of the apostrophe in every way I can.
On 24 Sep 2020 at 10:01pm Ferret wrote:
Of course it's clear what he's saying, but no, he wrote it. And written English has certain rules that educated people must obey. The under-educated and semi-literate may be forgiven their errors, but sadly, their errors reveal their condition. Your 'you're', while humorous, is not exactly comparable with Tom's 'it's', is it? There's a stray e in there too. As long as the apostrophe exists in written English, it doesn't need your support. I'm pretty sure Tom's 'it's' was a simple error, though, as he seems to be an educated chap.
On 25 Sep 2020 at 7:14pm Tom Pain wrote:
Of course no mention of the 600,000.All mouth and no trouser ff'errett?
On 26 Sep 2020 at 9:24am Ferret wrote:
What can I say? That it's appalling that a senior scientific advisor has shares in what I believe is the company he used to work for? And that that company is part of the drive to produce a vaccine which will save the world from this crippling virus? Well sorry, Tom, I don't feel that way about it. I don't care what anyone does with their money as long as their advice is sound. Have you got any investments that we should know about?
On 27 Sep 2020 at 10:58am Tom Pain wrote:
Sound as a pound eh? Sadly, I'm not surprised that you see no conflict of interest,you haven't been told to.

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