On 15 Jun 2016 at 8:37am Fairmeadow wrote:
George Osborne tried to move on from Project Fear to Project Apocalypse on the Today programme this morning. Vote Brexit and it will be the end of the world as we know it.
Sadly for his credibility, ithe annoying BBC interviewer managed to establish he wouldn't be able to get the super-austerity budget he was threatening through Parliament.
Of course, Brexit would help cover over the numerous mistakes he has made as one of the dimmest chancellors in my lifetime. House sales and Housebuilding down? Blame it on Brexit. Nothing to do with his budgetary changes to discourage Buy to Let, while ensuring wages for ordinary people are kept so low by uncontrolled immigration that they can't afford rents or mortgages.
If Cameron and Osborne really believe Brexit would be a disaster, why did they decide to have a referendum in the first place? I certainly wasn't demanding one. Were you? If it happens, it will be clear to everyone where the blame lies.
On 15 Jun 2016 at 9:31am Robbie wrote:
Yeah I heard it, winds me up how politicians can never stick to the point.
I think the best quote was George describing their single EU immigration curb (restricting benefits for four years) as a "multi pronged attack", to stupid to realise 1 is not multi and he's in charge of our finances.
On 15 Jun 2016 at 10:00am Mavis wrote:
Let's face it, it's not just GB and Europe that's a mess, it's the whole world. Probably a result of too many people in it !!
On 15 Jun 2016 at 10:52am fred2016 wrote:
They are not to be trusted. Why is our national infrastructure in such a mess today since Cons and they have increased national debt by a far greater figure than labour before them. Its not all about politics, its just that these people are incapable and lack experience of the real world that 99% of people experience each day.
On 15 Jun 2016 at 11:22am Metatron wrote:
What a horrible, vile and immature person Osborne has now shown himself to be.
I hate been threatened and will react accordingly and the Tory party will never ever have my vote again.
He is the Chancellor and as such must remember he only serves and if the people want to decide Brexit then that is the will of the people to which he must except or resign his post.
He will now never lead the party as he thought he might.
Seems not only will we get Brexit but we may also get a vote of no confidence.
On 15 Jun 2016 at 11:26am In the gutter wrote:
"while ensuring wages for ordinary people are kept so low by uncontrolled immigration" - there is very little evidence for this. The statistics shows that the effect is almost vanishingly small.
Buy to Let is one of the very reasons why "ordinary working people" can not afford houses by driving up house prices (and then rents).
"If Cameron and Osborne really believe Brexit would be a disaster, why did they decide to have a referendum in the first place?" - Because they are more concerned about keeping hold of power (by stemming the loss of voters to UKIP) than they are about the economic and social health of the country.
On 15 Jun 2016 at 12:57pm Ed Can Do wrote:
I'm starting to think Osborne is a secret Brexiter. There's no way he could possibly have thought today's ridiculous threats would do anything other than increase support for a Brexit vote. He's either a liar or incredibly stupid, either wqay the sooner we're shot of him the better.
On 15 Jun 2016 at 1:00pm Mark wrote:
I heard it while driving. One thing I've long thought about Gideon is that he's the absolute grandmaster of spin (aka lying). You're caught on the backfoot so you quickly interject with, "Well, let's be clear...." and suddenly what you were saying was actually "clarity" because you've said that it was. PN is very good at it but he's not in George's league. It's dishonest and disingenuous and why oh why should people who have been elected (ostensibly) to represent our interests be doing it. Could it be that they have no interest in our interests?
On 15 Jun 2016 at 4:17pm Mavis wrote:
Where does Gideon come into it ?
On 15 Jun 2016 at 4:26pm George Gideon Oliver Osb wrote:
Or a prophet in the book of Judges.
On 15 Jun 2016 at 4:59pm Ed Can Do wrote:
Mavis, he was called Gideon Osborne when he was a kid, changed it to George by deed poll.
On 16 Jun 2016 at 7:42am thinker wrote:
Maybe it is time to consider calmly just how we the public are being manipulated.
How much of what is currently unfolding is set piece stuff ultimately designed after a period of 'campaigning' to get the result that big business was determined from the start to get ? Are all these 'conservatives' really as clumsy and silly as they seem?