On 28 Mar 2018 at 11:40am Clifford wrote:
'First, they tried saying that we were too pig-ignorant to know what we were voting for. Now, they claim that we were manipulated by online propaganda. That’s strange. Wasn’t it older people who swung the referendum in Leave’s favour, and aren’t the old least likely to be active on social media?'
On 28 Mar 2018 at 12:26pm Inconvenient truth wrote:
Nope. 14.5 million Facebook account holders in the UK are over 45. Usage amongst the young is in rapid decline, and while young people still have accounts they aren't using them as much. That older age group has an ever growing ratio of account holders who regularly log in by comparison. Younger people are preferring snapchat and instagram instead.
On 28 Mar 2018 at 12:35pm Brexit wrote:
Considering the prize of having a blue passport was enough to sway some people to vote leave I don't think much engineering of Social media was required.
On 28 Mar 2018 at 2:41pm Mark wrote:
I did wonder at the time when that stupid purple bus with a ridiculous lie pasted on the side of it was popping up on my fb feed twice/day.
On 28 Mar 2018 at 4:14pm Scraping the barrel wrote:
FfS clifford.
On 28 Mar 2018 at 5:56pm Mr Phorbes wrote:
Could you fill me in, what was the lie written on the side of the bus?
On 28 Mar 2018 at 8:03pm inthegutter wrote:
The bus read: "We send the EU £350 million a week. Let's fund our NHS instead."
While not actually a lie it is supremely misleading. The figure ignores both the rebate and the EU spending in the UK. The actual net contribution is less than half the claimed £350 million (FullFact claims £165 million). Moreover, the suggestion, by a right-wing dominated pressure group that the money would be spent on the NHS is laughable.
On 28 Mar 2018 at 10:35pm The Real Truth wrote:
The rebate part of the 350£m is NEVER guaranteed and can and could be withdrawn at any time on a whim.
On 28 Mar 2018 at 11:09pm Spurious wrote:
The even more interesting point is~ it's an illusion anyway. If the heel dragging government ever gets round to it,they'll make sure it will be under the same conditions as being in it and it will be so expensive that we'll have to mortgage the country to the ECB! And what about that old fraud Farage? As soon as he got what he claimed to be seeking, he disappeared! It's just a sick joke.
On 29 Mar 2018 at 9:16am Nearly there wrote:
A year today, we will be free of the shackles of the EU. Can't come quick enough!
On 29 Mar 2018 at 12:21pm and on the vinegar wrote:
strokes.
On 29 Mar 2018 at 12:37pm @nearly there wrote:
Please can you give an example of an EU shackle and how leaving will improve your life? I'm yet to see one that's actually true and I'm desperate to see a positive in Brexit so maybe you can help.
On 29 Mar 2018 at 2:57pm Come again ? wrote:
This is too complicated.
On 29 Mar 2018 at 10:37pm Clifford wrote:
@nearly there wrote: 'Please can you give an example of an EU shackle and how leaving will improve your life?'
Do you remember 2008, when the banks brought us to the brink of collapse? Do you remember the Tories and New Labour giving the City and the banks so much leeway that they were able to do that? Do you remember the people urging us to vote Remain were those very same banks, the same City, the same Tories and New Labour leaders? And you wonder what precisely it is about the EU they like?
On 29 Mar 2018 at 10:41pm Clifford wrote:
inthegutter wrote: 'Moreover, the suggestion, by a right-wing dominated pressure group that the money would be spent on the NHS is laughable'
Your head seems to be very deeply in the sand. Who was it teling us we should vote Remain in 2016? Wasn't it the austerity kings Cameron and Osborne, the banks, the City, the global corporations? What do you think they are? 'Left-wing' pressure groups? You Remainers do make me laugh with your fantasy of a 'liberal internationalist' EU.
On 30 Mar 2018 at 12:12am Nearly there wrote:
Thanks Clifford, point made perfectly.
On 30 Mar 2018 at 4:06am King of Sussex wrote:
The banks and Cameron were right, but for the wrong reasons.
The Labour party were right for the right reasons.
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and the far right were wrong for the right reasons. You've got into bed with the far right because you didn't like the less immoderate right, and thought opposing them is more important than trusting the left. You're still tarred with that little Englander brush, and it'll stain you forever.
Let's just wait and see how much better you're going to be, freed from the shackles of the banks and Cameron. Let's just wait and see what kind of compassionate and profit averse society you're going to be left with, when we're being governed by the unelected body of plutocrats and faithful Tory donors.
Lord Rothermere, that Frenchman who owns the Daily Mail... he's got an increased say in what goes down now, thanks to the gullible voters who believed Fatty Johnson and that moon faced idiot Farage are 'people like us'.
This argument is going to go on and on until Brexiters admit they've chosen the worst of two bad options.
Or, I suppose, Brexit precipitates a halcyon era of prosperity, genuine social mobility and improved life opportunities absent from the remaining EU countries, when I'll gladly admit it all turned out for the better after all. Of course we're still a way off Brexiting, but it ain't looking very promising.
On 30 Mar 2018 at 6:42pm @King of Nothing wrote:
Yawn....