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Accident on the Causeway

On 10 Oct 2010 at 12:42am Janet Street Preacher wrote:
Anyone know anything about the guy who got run over on the Phoenix Causeway on Thursday evening?
On 10 Oct 2010 at 6:01am Thread Bear wrote:
twould be an unseasonal means of despatching one of THAT moniker - let us hope therefore that he is OK
On 10 Oct 2010 at 8:45am Hillbilly wrote:
The women was raving drunk and walking down the middle of the road and decided to jump in front of the poor bloke driving home from work ( little he could do) her drunken idiot of a boyfriend then started looking for a fight with anyone trying to help.
All watched by me from the comfort of the bus stop. Don't ask me why she did it but I assure you she just appeared to jump infront of the car with little time for driver to react. Stupid woman!
On 10 Oct 2010 at 6:19pm MC wrote:
Just one in hundreds of mostly unreported and harmful alcohol related incidents that will have happened across the UK that day.

I really will shut up now.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 8:50am Matt Kent wrote:
I walked past that incident in the week. One ambulance, a few police cars. What a waste off time, money and effort on two drunks. This is where money is being hemorrhaged in the UK. People need to know their limits, and helped if they have a real problem with alcohol.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 9:25am Newmania wrote:
Matt-Money is being hemorrhaged in the UK by the inevitable waste involved when people are disbursing other people`s money ,a system you not only supprt but would , in some paleozoic way , like deepened.
The Police and their Spanish practices are just one example of that.
Here is a declension you will find hold true :
When I buy for me with my cash I care about the product and the value for money
When I buy for me with other people`s cash I care about the product but not the value for money
When I buy for other people with other people`s cash ,I do not care at all . In fact I send eight cars to clog up the road for no good reason other than to retain my giant budget.
The same would be true of the "Help" you mention .Thats why your socialist ideas do not work and never will.
Ithenku and I could not give a fig if this is not Lewesey enough.I live here too
On 11 Oct 2010 at 9:32am waste of space wrote:
Newmania you don't need to put spaces before commas, full stops and apostrophes, or is your keyboard busted?
On 11 Oct 2010 at 10:19am Matt Kent wrote:
I sincerely don't understand what you've just said.
Can you explain yourself in much clearer terms please.
Yours puzzled - Matt :|
On 11 Oct 2010 at 11:18am Newmania wrote:
I am generally understood well enough. You are a supporter, as I understand it, of the Green Party. They are socialists . See for example opposition to privatisation of the NHS, Academies, deficit denial banker bashing and general nuttiness including protectionism, a mix that is alarmingly familiar. The SWP in drag in fact.
Waste is the inevitable result of collectivist illusions however packaged , and so to seeing you worrying about waste in the Public sector struck me as a good opportunity to administer and corrective slap. This is for your own good and in the hope you will improve both morally and intellectually. No need to thank me Matt. Its a public duty.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 11:22am misanthrope wrote:
Regarding "help", Mao helped a lot of heroin addicts give up. When he started shooting them they suddenly weren't addicts anymore! Worth a try?
On 11 Oct 2010 at 11:36am Matt Kent wrote:
Thanks for the 'corrective slap' Newmania, you're too kind. I continue to read your constant rhetoric against socialism in the near future. Lets see how things pan out over the next few years eh?
All I alluded to was that police and ambulance resources were being used up because two people had a large one and caused a bit of grief with the public. Is that acceptable? Its got nothing to do with socialism and being in Lewes!! Go down to Brighton on a Saturday night and see the fights down there and you'll see what I'm talking about.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 12:23pm jrsussex wrote:
I think what Newmania is saying is similar to something I have preached for many years. Make central Government, local and county authorties etc legally responsible for the taxpayers money they are allocated and subsequently spend. It is unlikely to ever happen, but if it did you would see a huge drop in public expenditure in regard to the waste of it
It is very simple to spend other people's money, if it were coming out their pocket they would be far more careful with it and ensure value for money.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 12:58pm Stig of the dump wrote:
Would that mean no more jollies to Blois and Waldshut etc for our wonderous councillors though Jrs ? Go wash your mouth out !!! lol
On 11 Oct 2010 at 1:03pm Newmania wrote:
No £9 billion wasted on foreign aid when we are trying to cut 12 billion from incapacity benefit and my child benefit. What a con
On 11 Oct 2010 at 2:13pm Old Cynic wrote:
Newmania rather than bleat on about overseas aid - why not complain to the Government and ask them whay they are spending YOUR money on aid to the sick , starving and homeless of the 3rd world.
Here is the departmental e-mail address
On 11 Oct 2010 at 2:15pm Old Cynic wrote:
Here is the website to
On 11 Oct 2010 at 2:15pm Stig of the dump wrote:
Oh shut your whineing Newmoania. I'd be quite happy for incapacity to be cut and given to those who genuinely need it and as for child benefit, if yours is being cut, you obviously earn a lot more than i do.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 2:21pm jrsussex wrote:
Stig - I'll take that as a tongue in cheek agreement
On 11 Oct 2010 at 2:46pm Newmania wrote:
Not sure what you are getting at Old Cynic, are you under the impression that these quangos care what the tax payer thinks ?
I do not get out of bed every morning and go to my boring job to solve the problems of the world and I can find an Oxfam box if I feel the need.
At this time it is outrageous that the state should be forcing hard pressed people to throw money at Africa. They have no right democrtic or otherwise
On the Coalitions deciet anti family policies I have already written to our Norm.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 3:50pm Leave It! wrote:
I, for one, am getting a bit bored of the 'let's have a go at Newmania' approach adopted by some people on here. Especially when he/she is making a valid point.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 3:52pm Stig of the dump wrote:
In your opinion "leave it", not mine.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 4:48pm stan wrote:
I have said it before but there must be some reason for the coalition to keep the unpopular policy of overseas aid. They must know something I don't (which isn't hard I grant you.) There must be a hidden gain to the government, otherwise why spend money this way?
On 11 Oct 2010 at 4:52pm Newmania wrote:
I am a chap .
Stig I have three children and I am on the boundary
The higher rate is being reduced to £42,000 next year and if inflation runs at 3% say it will be at 38435.94 by the time the cut kicks in in todays money . Does anyone doubt that fiscal drag will be used to get more and more people on the net? The marginal rate from 40,000 to 47,000 is about 100%
Have you noticed that if er indoors is not working then she will lose her entitlement to state pension contributions as well . Child care vouchers gone ,Child credit gone Trust fund gone , benefit gone , pensions contributions gone. It all adds up to a notional 5000 or so and the benefit alone is about 4500 in gross earnings on the higher rate .
This is savage , aimed specifically at families and its not a hand out its only a portion of the huge tax bill we pay returned when we need it . In the South East this is not by any means rich its about the middle income for a fully employed man with dependents .
Its a savage blow to people who work hard ,more than pay their way and end up with very little spare . Meanwhile we are expected to finance a 9 billion bleeding heart charity donation . Its obscene but then so are the salaries of Doctors and so is the fact most of the Public Sector is on a final salary pension long since lost by those who pay for it
Anyway we shall see what our MP is going to say about it many Conservative MPs have protested bitterly that real familes are so mistreated just so two Public School prats can make a gesture . I wonder what Norman has to say , nowt thus far
On 11 Oct 2010 at 5:09pm jrsussex wrote:
Served in Kenya, army, in the 50's, went back to the African continent in the 80's and again in 2006, 2008. Three different countries on the African continent and could see no change. The poverty is still there, and of course the corruption that is inherent, which appears to be accepted by all aid donating Governments. They would say no but they continue to shovel money at the African problem of poverty, malaria, aids, clean water etc whilst , in general, African politicians get richer. In 2006 when visiting Kenya whilst my wife and I were at a school, comprising of mud floors and walls with no blackboard, paper or pencils it was announced that the Government had supplied all Ministers with a new Mercedes car. Work that one out.
There has to be a way of ensuring that the enormous amounts of aid money from Governments, charity funding over the previous 50 odd years is used to better the lives of the population, not shifted into corrupt pockets.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 5:44pm I don't live in lewes... wrote:
Why can't people look after their own kids without state aid?
They're not compulsory. If you can't afford them don't have them.
On 11 Oct 2010 at 5:54pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
> JR: Local government is already responsible for the public money they spend and can be reported to the District Auditor if they breach their "fiduciary duty" to spend it wisely. Individual councillors and officers can be surcharged if they don't.
However, now that the audit commission is being abolished to save money, that may mean the Distirct Auditor goes too.
On 12 Oct 2010 at 4:36pm Newma...zzzzzz wrote:
Anyone else get about a third of the way though Newmania's posts and find themselves drifting off?
On 12 Oct 2010 at 5:51pm Newboredom wrote:
Definately YES to above post
On 12 Oct 2010 at 7:03pm jrsussex wrote:
A C-T - You are of course correct, they can indeed be reported to the District Auditor. When was the last time you heard of a full time council officer or councillor being surcharged for overspending or financial mistakes?
On 12 Oct 2010 at 9:51pm Brixtonbelle wrote:
Shirley Porter - homes for votes ?
this from wikipedia

While leader of Westminster City Council she oversaw the "Building Stable Communities" policy, later described as the "homes for votes" scandal and was consequently accused of gerrymandering. The policy was judged illegal by the district auditor, and a surcharge of £27m levied on her in 1996. This was later raised to 42 million with interest and costs. She eventually settled in 2004, paying a full payment of 12.3 million.
The payment of is still disputed and she is still subject to court action.
Tories disowned her and apologised in 2009.
On 13 Oct 2010 at 8:20am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
How £12.3m is full payment of a 42m debt beats me!
The threat of surcharge is so scarey that officers make sure everything is done super-legal and all regulations to ensure best value are adhered to rigorously, ime. Most councils even make sure that there are several peopple present when tenders are opened, to ensure fair play.
On 13 Oct 2010 at 10:59am queequeg wrote:
I can think of a few left wing gerrymandering scandals that seem to avoid censure altogether, the last government's immigration policy being the most obvious and acknowledged. Then there is the postal voting scandal. I would bet that at least 10 MPs are in Westminster due to these.
Then there is the over indulging of the Celtic fringes for electoral benefit and the wholesale movement of government jobs to labour voting areas. I could go on and on.
On 13 Oct 2010 at 11:07pm Brixtonbelle wrote:
Can you provide some specific facts and figures queequeg ?

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