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A local tradesman

On 15 Mar 2015 at 3:46am Puzzled wrote:
I had an interesting demand today. A local tradesman has suggested that I pay £700 up front for them to go in and complete an incomplete job and to redo some work which was deliberately and maliciously undone in a fit of pique. I had previously agreed to pay within 24 hours 50% of each daily invoice for work which was completed and for which a fully itemised invoice was presented. Sadly this tradesman has refused to itemise labour charges in the simplest terms eg 4 hours @ ....... and will only give a single figure. The best explanation I have had for a £200 labour charge is "just short of a full shift" whatever that means.
I'm interested in taking a poll:
What would you do?
On 15 Mar 2015 at 4:56am Leveller wrote:
Never ever pay a trade up front. If there's materials involved, most trades will have a 30 day account with someone. I'd avoid this cowboy like the plague.
On 15 Mar 2015 at 7:40am Sussex Jim wrote:
There are some cowboy tradesmen about; but there are also "cowboy" customers. Like those who don't pay promptly or not at all when the job is finished; or try to bargain for a discount, sometimes pretending the job has not been done properly.
I think it is fair to ask for payment of expensive materials when they are delivered to site. But generally the customer should keep the total bill in arrears until satisfactory completion. On a big job,say, more than a weeks' work a retention sum is normally held back until the end.
On 15 Mar 2015 at 9:05am Leveller wrote:
On big jobs that last for several weeks/months, a contract should be in place stating that xxx amount should be paid after weeks 2, 4, 6 etc for example.
On 15 Mar 2015 at 12:23pm Reliable Plumber wrote:
Don't listen to that moron above
Once materials are delivered to a site they for all intense and purposes become the clients property regardless if they have been paid for. It is very difficult for the contractor to reclaim them
Deposit when work commences is standard practice, I never start anything until a deposit is safely in my account
Ask British Gas to install a boiler for you without a deposit and see how that goes
As regards to the OP, it sounds like you've seriously peed off your original contractor and got in an idiot to finish it
Think you're getting what you deserve
Good luck with that
On 15 Mar 2015 at 2:59pm Leveller wrote:
Don't listen to the cowboy above, he;ll turn up on a horse wearing a 10 gallon hat and spurs.
Do not pay anything up front. Your loss if you do.
On 15 Mar 2015 at 3:54pm SHS wrote:
Don't pay another penny. Take plenty of pictures. Tell him in writing that you no longer you have confidence in his ability to do the job and do not let him do any more work for you (it'll only get worse). Get someone else in.
On 15 Mar 2015 at 4:17pm Old Plumber wrote:
LOL @ you lot - apart from the original poster. Like a flippin school playground . " I am retired now, na nana na na " you can all sit and spin
On 15 Mar 2015 at 5:17pm Leveller wrote:
No one asked your s**t opinion Old plumber. Do one.
On 16 Mar 2015 at 6:05am O P wrote:
S**T made me a good living
On 16 Mar 2015 at 12:00pm Passing by wrote:
I wouldnt pay full amount upfront. I deal with contractors daily in my job. I would request an upb (so if they go over you dont have to pay more) on this they should put labour amount and material cost. I dont think it makes a difference on how many hours. We usually pay up to a 50% deposit upfront if we have not previously used the contractor, otherwise we pay 30 days on completion. This will differ as its a large company using contractor. In the least i would make sure you have a signed written quote/schedule of works up front.
If you havent already started using the contractor then maybe try a new one. I use PPJ Construction for all works at my home. I always pay after the job has been completed but only ever had 1 week of works at a time. I believe they invoice 2 weekly for larger jobs.
On 16 Mar 2015 at 12:11pm passing by wrote:
*Request a quote
not a upb

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