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On 27 Apr 2010 at 10:41am Brad Pitt wrote:
The following letter is from Natalie Carron Sussex Police.
Dear all,

I think it important you know what happened in the Grange gardens last week. We
had some reports of potential ''organised'' fights between school children and
as such ended up increasing our patrols in the area and dealing with specific

Whilst working together with Lewes District Council we looked at various options
to deal with the problems. One option was to consider banning youths from the
area. Although those specifically dealt with for actual offences have been
advised not to return, there has been NO blanket ban of students from the Grange

Unfortunately due to a miscommunication the school was advised that a ban was in
place and as such informed the parents accordingly. I apologise for the
unnecessary stress this may have caused.

The following is the release put out to the press regarding this issue:

Police were called to Southover Grange Gardens in Lewes on five occasions
between Monday (April 19) and Wednesday last week, including an incident at
3.50pm on Tuesday where around 80 youths were involved in disturbances. A
16-year-old boy was detained after being aggressive towards police officers and
returned home to his mother.

Due to concerns about on-going anti-social behaviour and threats of further
confrontations, police are working with Lewes District Council and Priory School
in a bid to put an end to the problems, resulting in increased patrols in the

Ch Insp Natalie Carron from Lewes Police said: "We will not tolerate anti-social
behaviour in any form and especially on the scale that we have witnessed during
the last week. In conjunction with other partners, we are taking positive action
to address the problem and offenders will be dealt with robustly.

"I am very grateful for the support and assistance provided by Priory School in
addressing these issues. The disturbances are not down to students alone and
those directly involved have been advised not to return to the Grange for a
period of two weeks. There is not a ban on students from Priory School going to
the Grange.

"Grange Gardens is a peaceful location used by people of all ages for relaxation
and recreation, including a large number of parents with young children after
school and we intend for it to stay that way."

On 27 Apr 2010 at 10:48am Edward Norton wrote:
Kids! ??? would not have happened in my day!
On 27 Apr 2010 at 1:21pm Prick Stein wrote:
"A 16-year-old boy was detained after being aggressive towards police officers and returned home to his mother" Ha, ha what a big man!
Shouldn't they all be at home on facetwit or whatever it's called, bloody kids!
On 27 Apr 2010 at 1:49pm pp Natalie Carron wrote:
You''ll recall last week I told you about the phone thefts in Seaford ...I am
pleased to say we have arrested two males on suspicion of being involved. Our
investigations continue.

Lewes residents around the Hawkenbury Road area have suffered over the weekend
with mindless vandalism where over 20 cars have had their tyres damaged. Similar
to Seaford the previous week where late at night tyres have been punctured.

I can''t begin to understand why anyone would have such a disregard for other
peoples property when they need their cars to get to work and take children to
school and the associated cost and inconvenience this causes.

Although we made an arrest relating ot the Seaford damage we released the
individual as there was insufficient evidence to link him to the crimes.

We have a number of Lewes residents we need to speak to regarding the Lewes
damage. However, someone or someones'' children will probably know who is to
blame and as such I really really do hope that they will come forward with some
information with regard to both Seaford and Lewes. Crimestoppers is an anonymous
system 0800 555 111 but also I am speaking with my partners in the Community
Safety Partnership to offer up a reward for information leading to a conviction.

If you have any information please do contact me or ring Crimestoppers.


07789 926174
On 27 Apr 2010 at 3:30pm lewes trousers wrote:
I witnessed the detaining of the 16 year old boy who was so "aggressive" it took 3 burly police officers to kneel on him and hold him down whilst giving him a good talking too.
In my day it would have been called high spirits, though i am sure all the people who had small kids in the park might have found it a bit scary. My old mum would have just wacked them with her umbrella. But 5 police cars, sirens and kneeling on people is obviously what Lewes needs....or perhasp they were all just relaxing on tea break with nothing to do.
They are never around on the beat when you need them
On 27 Apr 2010 at 4:05pm MuttsNuts wrote:
That reminds me
About a year ago, on a sunday evening about 9ish there was something of a scuffle outside the Lansdown, ALL of station street and a good way back towards the railway station was verry soon FULL of police cars, I counted 12 at least, all in response to a couple of lads taking issue with each other.
The vehicles were mostly of the Mercedes and BMW variety. Couldn't a couple of PCSOs have sorted it?
What is going on with the cops and this kind of overkill? and why do they need luxury vehicles. Even Toryboy Cameron remarked on it in his recent PA - LEXUS for fox sake. What we need is cops on the beat to make people think twice before they get stupid, but in lewes you can practically guarantee there's no cops around, (except on the A27).
PS I don't bother reporting acts of vandalism on my car now, no point, nothing is ever done, and never any feedback. Recently had my wing mirror kicked off. No point in reorting it you just get looked at like you're a nutter for thinking that they're interested.
On 27 Apr 2010 at 6:36pm Clifford wrote:
MuttsNuts - how else are not very bright boys going to get a chance to drive these expensive cars if the police don't have them? They might have to turn to crime instead if we don't indulge them.
On 27 Apr 2010 at 7:06pm Blahblahblah wrote:
Lewes trousers, tough titty, hopefully make the horrid little skank think twice about doing it next time.
Absolute zero tolerance is the way to go. Those who do not commit a crime have nothing to worry about.
Fairly simple really.
On 28 Apr 2010 at 8:54am 'up to the back teeth' wrote:
I was one of the unfortunate victims of the mindless saddos who slashed so many car tyres on the Nevill Estate last Saturday. What an indictment on our society in the twenty-first century, that, in spite of decent education etc., people STILL don't know the difference between right and wrong... and have not learned correct social behaviour! I honestly believe that the local police do their best to control a-sb in Lewes, but also realise that they are governed from 'above' and that they alone cannot make the decision to have more 'bobbies on the beat' - on foot... I grew up in the 50s/60s in Moulsecoomb, and the local bobby was never afraid to give a wayward youth a good clip round the ear ... the kids never misbehaved in his presence!
I am also aware that, if anyone is apprehended for this sort of anti-social behaviour, the police and the courts have very little option for punishing them. They cannot usually pay fines as they have no money; the crime is not serious enough to warrant incarceration (which is probably self-defeating anyway), and half the time, the parents themselves couldn't care less. I HAVE A SOLUTION! In the grounds of Lewes castle there are some stocks. On a particular day each week, at a given time, all anti-social behaviour perpetrators should be locked in the stocks, and the public should be allowed to pelt them with rotten eggs and over-ripe tomatoes. The public humiliation - especially if there are photographers present to record the event for posterity - should put them off for life!!! Worth a try, don't you think? Or would Health and Safety put a stop to it, on the grounds that one of the eggs might inadvertently have been hard-boiled??
On 28 Apr 2010 at 6:14pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Someone I know had their place broken into and was assaulted by the culprits when he tried to stop them a couple of weeks ago.
A neighbour saw the burglars breaking in and called the police, but it took 20 minutes for them to arrive. The house in question is about a 2-minute walk from police HQ! By the time they got there, the burglars had gone and the man was unconscious on the floor.
On 28 Apr 2010 at 6:25pm Aroldo wrote:
I was at the grange and witnessed the so called 'aggressive teenager'. I can assure he was nothing of the sort. I witness the 3 genoursly sized officers bring down the small youth. A blatant act of the polices over aggression, i am ashamed at our local police force.
On 28 Apr 2010 at 7:01pm Brian Talkoutofmyarse wrote:
ha! in my day, kids behaving in such an inapropriate manner would be kaned for a good few hours until their rear-ends were redder than the devil's himself! zero-tolerence is exactly what we need to keep these naughty youths off the streets.
they're clearly all on heroin; SMACK - that's what they call it. and when they're not intoxicated with the stuff they're selling it! thank god for brave people like the heroic officers who handled that filthy ASBO on that fatefull tuesday afternoon. if they weren't there to do their job, it would have been like 911 all over again.
Now, like the majority of the people who have commented on this incident, I was not actually there to witness such chaos, but based on my infinit wisdom (police - right, young people - wrong) I conclude that this young offender should be sent to azkaban prison until he learns that violence will not be tolerated in our society!
For anybody interested in my opinions on other matters, visit my website at www.briantalkoutofmyarse.com.
On 28 Apr 2010 at 8:51pm L.A.N.K.S wrote:
Yo dem pigs gone messed with tha wrong yute Brian you don't know who yo chattin bout dats ma main man jay-puff, dem kids dont take dat smack man dey chill wid da ganja i myself have bought sick 0.01g ounces offa ma man but dem pigs try and mess with ma man agen den stuff is goin to go down.
binksy is tha real menace and his swarm of killa bee lettaz bt yo shuld bewair of bullet bill he has guns fo arms dis lil rime goes out to ma main man jay-puff
yo jay-puff, lyfe must b ruff, bt dnt take dat stuff, or get hooked on hillmans snuff, dem pigs dnt knw whts cumin, when dey see me theyll be runin, somin, somin, belly buttin, jay-puff, times are tuff, bt remember i put dem bitches, in stitches and unit L, will tell
chek it dat was frm ma nu trak "Da Lyf & Times Of Jay-Puff"
On 29 Apr 2010 at 6:48am me wrote:
Do what? Webbo I think my browser has gone into japanese or some other language unintelligable to my adled brain

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