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1.27 million spent on top ESCC council officers

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On 4 Mar 2016 at 10:18am mike wrote:
I suppose that's why they seem to play so fast and lose with community assets like St Anne's. No real understanding of the value of money and what it's like to struggle for a roof over your head. The suggested 1% increase in salaries will cost a further 12.7k. The current salary for the CEO is between 171,078 and 186,936, for chief officers it's 97268 - 105,859
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 11:11am JealousyIsaBadThing wrote:
So, Mike, how much has your pay risen in the past five years? Local Government pay has actually fallen in real terms by over 20% since 2009, against RPI increase of over 22% over the same. Even benefits have gone up more than that. Doesn't matter whether its a cleaner or a chief exec - they had 0% for four years and about 1% after that, and the governmnet has decreed 1% for the next four years. From a starting point of woeful pay in comparison with the private sector wherever you can draw comparisons. Look at the salary of a CEO in industry that might have something close to the range of things to manage that Becky Shaw does (and no; we're not related). Once you've got that roof over your head someone else has to think about all the other stuff you are going to need, like health, education, transport, social care, green spaces, etc etc. And all with one hand and one leg tied behind their back by central government. If you remember the occupation of St Annes by the protest camp - the end result has turned out close enough to what they demanded. With more recent dramas about affordable housing and disposessed skaters that seems to be forgotten
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 12:27pm concerned wrote:
ESCC officers certainly don't appear to have earned their money over the St Annes debacle. I didn't see jealousy as the point of Mike's post. And I don't really understand the rest of your post although some dog walkers might I suppose....
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 12:53pm Ghost of Maggie wrote:
Just rejoice and be thankful that the vitriol hasn't trickled down to you all yet.
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 1:07pm Frank wrote:
JealousylsaBadThing -I think you will find Becky Shaw and some of her Chief officers would not get employment in the Private Sector, re their incompetence regarding the St Anna's site.
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 1:22pm LLoyd - Wright wrote:
To paraphrase Father Jack ( RIP ) Build.!! fer fex ache.
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 4:47pm Tipex wrote:
I'd be extremely suprised if Becky Shaw had any involvement in the sale of a property. ESCC employ a huge amount of talent and commitment, most of whom could earn more in the private and even 3rd sectors. Council employees haven't had so much as an inflationary pay rise in years which equates to a pay CUT every year. Whinging about the salaries of the top 2% of any organisation is always a ridiculous argument. It's the majority that matter. I agree it's ridiculous that Lewes is covered by 3 tiers of council but don't knock ESCC.
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 5:19pm Clifford wrote:
Tipex wrote: 'ESCC employ a huge amount of talent and commitment, most of whom could earn more in the private and even 3rd sectors.'

I've worked in both the local government and voluntary sectors. A lot of people there used to whine that they could get more in the private sector. They couldn't, they really couldn't. A lot of people in both those sectors think their job is 'going to meetings'.
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On 4 Mar 2016 at 9:58pm Chris wrote:
Clifford - you have no idea but if wagging your finger at others does it for you then that's up to you. There's a huge amount of talent in local government and while they don't always get it right they're genuinely trying to do so on behalf of their local communities.
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On 5 Mar 2016 at 10:13am Clifford wrote:
Chris - I was talking from my experience. If you disagree, fair enough, but don't call it 'finger wagging'. There's a 'huge amount of talent' everywhere but also a huge amount of self-delusion.


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