On 21 Jun 2009 at 6:13pm Decent Citizen wrote:
Perhaps Smallnob, OH DEAR SORRY I meant Spongebob,has shares in Tescos! It would certainly explain his enthusiasm for an expansion? :|
On 21 Jun 2009 at 6:26pm Spongebob wrote:
Oh dear, opening another thread just so you can hurl insults at me. And still no constructive comments from you.
Just remember decent citizen, It's all about choice
On 21 Jun 2009 at 7:00pm Tax Payer wrote:
and lots of people would choose NOT to have one shop that sells everything thus able to force force other businesses out, thereby removing the opposition, and can then charge what they like for inferior goods - simple really NO EXPANSION for Tescos - introduce a Morrison, Somerfield, Co-Op, Sainsbury's or Safeway (by putting the clock back to BEFORE Morrisons forced out THEIR closest competition by buying Safeway, shutting all the stores, then hiving the properties off to others) - competition not cartel
On 21 Jun 2009 at 8:22pm Spongebob wrote:
And which businesses will be "forced out" dear tax payer ? Maybe all the antique shops will be forced out by Tescos vast range of antiques, or maybe the 25 odd hair dressers will be forced out by the new super salon that's planned ?
Again, it's all about choice, and if people choose to eat or buy inferior goods, that's up to them. And let's face it, if things were that inferior, the store would't have survived for so long.
As for choosing NOT to have one shop, well they can simply not shop there. Simples.
It's all about choice (that's quite a catchy slogan innit, might use it for when i run for mayor)
On 21 Jun 2009 at 9:26pm Keeley wrote:
I can't WAIT for Tesco's to expand and neither can everyone else I've spoken to about it! There's too many stupid little snobby shops that give Lewes its awful pretentious reputation, sadly...lets hope they expand more and more.
On 21 Jun 2009 at 9:38pm bonfirek wrote:
I wish all the DFL hemp shops would go bust and thereby render all the dfl's pointless and surplus to requirements. It's a miracle they can see to shop with their heads packed so far up the ar*es!
On 21 Jun 2009 at 10:36pm Roly Mo wrote:
I hate Tesco's and hate lining their pockets but what is the alternative? They sell what we need, and there aren't many shops like that in Lewes. Great for tourists, crap for locals, that's all there is to it.
On 21 Jun 2009 at 11:24pm HH wrote:
bonfirek agree 100% with your post, here's hoping all the crappy little arty farty shops go under soon...
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:31am Spongebob wrote:
More insults eh !!!!
Just remember, it's all about choice
On 22 Jun 2009 at 7:32am I dont live in lewes... wrote:
They have systematically defaced and chosen to kill Lewes High Street.
Truth is as Lewes continues to expand so must the infra structure.
There seems to be just two choices.
Either build another super store (prob'on the flood plane) or expand Tesco's.
I don't know why you're all whinging.
Spoilt for choice are you lot.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 10:01am Decent Citizen wrote:
Tax Payer do not waste your breath,SMALLBRAIN would have a Pizza Express in Keere Street,a pound shop outside the castle,a whelk stall outside Anne of Cleaves,and what about an adult shop next to the Grange? I refuse to communicate directly, as I have already, in earlier threads, stated my reasons for not wanting to see the beautiful and unique Lewes ruined. SMALLNOB is a windup merchant who cannot or will not read the threads properly,thereby not having a proper understanding of what could happen.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 10:24am Spongebon wrote:
Don't forget the slogan Decent citizen, IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE
Mind you, malling brooks and the deralict wharehouses next to tesco aren't exactly medievil historic Lewes are they.
What exactly CAN happen by extending tescos. This will be a laugh !!!
On 22 Jun 2009 at 11:41am Soggy Wet Thing wrote:
Its all about choice, as long as it is Songebon's (sic)
On 22 Jun 2009 at 12:05pm bonfirek wrote:
Decent citizen, are you actually from Lewes or did you move here from somewhere else? Just an honest question.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 12:10pm Decent Citizen wrote:
Splongblob could open a hot dog stand by the stocks in Historic Lewes Castle.YOUR CHOICE whether to throw soggy Tesco tomatoes at him or soggy wet SPLONGES(again bought from the wonderful Tesco store).All about CHOICE after all.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 12:20pm Decent Citizen wrote:
Bonfirek,I was born here as were my parents and their parents before them going back a very long way. Those of us who love Lewes stayed here.Those who wanted something more moved on. Everybodies choice.If it does not suit, move on.Simple!
On 22 Jun 2009 at 12:20pm bonfirek wrote:
Yes DC but are you local or as i suspect a DFL who wants to price Lewisians out of their own town?
On 22 Jun 2009 at 12:27pm Rozzer wrote:
Bonfirek - Do you reckon Tesco are local or, as I suspect, DFL?
On 22 Jun 2009 at 12:37pm Geoff wrote:
Call me an idiot, but since Decent Citizen says they were born here, in a rather obvious and clear way, then it would be quite hard for them to be a so-called DFL. Rozzer has of course made a hilariously good point. The Clothes in Tesco certainly wouldn't be DFL, they would be DFFF (down from foreign factory)
On 22 Jun 2009 at 12:44pm Decent Citizen wrote:
Bonfirek I said"those of us who love Lewes stayed".So yes, I am local,never moved away.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 1:11pm bonfirek wrote:
If you are a true Lewesian then why do you demand that the rest of us true Lewesians have no choice over where we shop? How can you be so arrogant that you think we should all shop in Waitrose and the emporiums of overpriced tat. I tell you what pal, thanks to the DFL incomers, in order to stay in the town that I was born in and love I have to spend most of my income on housing, thereby leaving me nearly sod all. I have no choice but to shop in Tesco, everywhere else in town is too expensive and full of stuff that those of us living on the bread line cant afford and wouldnt want anyway. A few sensible shops selling normal everday stuff is required and at the moment that is only Tesco, Smiths and Sussex Stationers now that Woolies has closed.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 1:17pm Decent Citizen wrote:
Where did you shop before Tesco came here?
On 22 Jun 2009 at 1:33pm bonfirek wrote:
Nowhere coz i was about 12 when it opened! But Safeway used to be reasonable
On 22 Jun 2009 at 1:55pm Careful shopper wrote:
Spongebob, if you really did want to know what harm Tescos expanding can do, try having a look at www dot tescopoly dot org. You're right, it is all about choice. And allowing one company to become a near monopoly destroys that choice for everyone (leaving aside the damage they do to farmers and workers around the world). Once people no longer have to go into town to buy the extra bits and bobs that they currently go to Argos, or Currys or Bunce's, or Mackay's or Smith's for, then not only does their trade suffer and result in head offices deciding it's not worth keeping them open, resulting in LESS choice, but the Independent stores, including ones like Terry's fisheries and the butchers in Riverside as well as those shops you hate because sometimes people with more money than you have shop in them, will suffer as passing trade dries up. And then they start closing down. Resulting in LESS choice. That's how everyone else is affected even if Tescos aren't selling what they sell. Yes, including antique shops. As has been seen over and over again across the country, the result is High streets that are ghost towns with nothing but boarded up windows, charity shops and estate agents. You may not care if that happens here, but a lot of people who live and work here do.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 2:21pm Rozzer wrote:
Bonfirek - What do you think of the DFL developers? And what do you think of the town's money being drained up to London by Tesco? And what do you think of Tesco being renowned tax avoiders - so we don't even get a share of that money back in public services? I shop in Tesco, Waitrose and a lot of the smaller shops. All I'm concerned about is one big Tesco sucking the blood out of the town.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 2:55pm Spongebob wrote:
Oh my god, tescos expands by 50% and it's armageddon !!! Lewes high street will look like a scene from Beruit and there will be tumbleweed drifting across the causeway bridge.
What people are alive will face being eaten by others if they dare set foot outside their door and all because Tescos has got bigger by 50%
Don't you think these stores do their homework before they considdering the impact on towns and communities. There would be no point in turning a town into a ghost town if no one is going to go there because no one would use the supermarkets either.
I looked at that website "tescopoly" and it's obviously a very well used website...used by eco-warriors and their veggie eating dogs who have never had a job in their life or contributed anything to society.
Rozzer, Please can you ecxplain how tescos will suck the life blood out of the town ?
Remember, it's all about choice.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 3:15pm Rozzer wrote:
Spongebob - If you wonder why people don't bother to answer your questions read your own post through someone else's eyes.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 4:01pm Spongebob wrote:
You see, let me make it a little clearer for you. This was a point that was actually mentioned in the previous thread.
Those who already shop at Tescos will continue to do so. You will even get a few people from outside of the town who come to Lewes to see what all the fuss is about, and when they're here, they'll venture into the quaint ol' town and spend their hard earned wedge.
Those that already go to the butchers and fishmongers in the high street will probably continue to do so. Those that buy their cheese form one of the two cheese shops (YES>>>TWO CHEESE SHOPS) will continue to do so, those that buy their fishing stuff from Percey's or camping stuff from the camping shop will continue to do so and long may it live. I really don't have any problems with that AT ALL and i myself will continue using Argos, Boots, Forfars when needed.
The people who already use the high street for their weekly groceries are not going to have their head turned by a bigger tescos that sells crap.
However, those that already shop in Tescos will probably (and that won't be everyone) want to continue shopping there and buy their crap.
In this way, tescos shoppers have the CHOICE to shop in the new Tescos whilst everyone else has the CHOICE to shop in the high street.
You see, IT'S ALL ABOUT CHOICE
On 22 Jun 2009 at 4:39pm PHANTOM TRAVELLER wrote:
what a lot of sense or is it rubbish you all talk down there yes its me no puntuation Lewes is a great place to visit little shops some just for gazing in some to drink in and some to buy food in and History in abundance Tescos taste no differant from Watrose its just the prices Freedom of choice shop where your happyist watch the dog that pees up shopping bags because he cant read he could be anywhere you think this is a load of rubbish you want to recap on this thread then you will know what I am talking about ROLLING ALONG WITH THE ROLLING TUMBLE WEED COMES TO MIND SHAME
On 22 Jun 2009 at 4:40pm Spongebob wrote:
Are you on drugs ?
On 22 Jun 2009 at 4:52pm PHANTOM TRAVELLER wrote:
bloody heck do you have a bell that rings you must sit there all day do you manage to go shopping at all SPONGEBOB
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:06pm Spongebob wrote:
Can i have an eigth of whatever you're smoking pal
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:18pm Decent Citizen wrote:
I am beginning to worry that we are dealing with (politicaly incorrect). I Would not wish to offend someone who has difficulty understanding,so will not respond to this person named Slumdog,sorry I mean Spongeblob.
Phantom Traveller I think he probably does sit waiting with a bell connected to his computer .
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:19pm Its Not Rocket Science wrote:
Years ago, before there was a Tesco, or even a Safeway in Lewes, the High Street was full of small shops selling just about everything. There were several small supermarkets, several proper greengrocers (not overpriced, overhyped coffee shops), fishmongers, butchers, toy shops, clothes shops, sweet shops, department stores etc.. etc... the list goes on and on. Then the large supermarkets came to town, took all the trade from the smaller shops which then had to close down leaving empty premises ready for the ethnic twine emporia to move into. What choice do the people who used to do their shopping in these places have ? None. They now have to go to Tesco or Waitrose if not out of the town completely. It doesn't take much thinking about Spongebob. The more stuff that Tesco sell, the less of that stuff anyone else in the town will sell, the more small shops will close down, and the LESS choice YOU will end up with. You are right, it is all about choice, but if your arguments are taken to their logical conclusion, then everyone, including you, will be deprived of that choice.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:20pm Spongebob wrote:
So why do you continue to offend
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:35pm Decent Citizen wrote:
Spongebob you have for a long time wound up the people on here,but l now understand the difficulties you have,my wish is to refrain from any more comments,although it will be difficult.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:37pm Spongebob wrote:
It's not rocket science. This is called progress. The people of the town (and most other towns) got fed up with having to trudge round lots of different shops. 1970 soon become 2000 and before you knew it, people were using their car to go shopping. Because of this, there became the need for "out of town" supermarkets to ease the traffic congestion on the towns inadequate roads.
I swear to you that the parking scheme has claimed more shops in the past 10 years than tescos.
Not only that but Lewes lacks the choice that it had in 1795...sorry i meant 1970. If our wonderous trade and commerce people, headed by Mr David Quinn, were to allow some of the *ahem* tackier shops into the town that allow people to shop for less money, there would be no need for a Tescos expansion.
But no, these shops are frowned upon by the sandal wearing arty-farty brigade who won't approve of anything unless it's an antique shop or an art museum.
If the balance was right in the high street, it would be much better but this town's high street attracts only one kind of shop now......expensive shops that sell crap.
Remember, it's all about CHOICE !!!
On 22 Jun 2009 at 5:41pm Spongebob wrote:
Decent citizen, Off you go then, you've been threatening this for some while now. Still, all your posts consist of is insults and drivel so there's nothing constructive to add.
Don't forget, it's all about CHOICE
On 22 Jun 2009 at 6:31pm Spongebobs psychiatrist wrote:
Songebob, I think you need to book another weeks worth of sessions. We talked about you getting a hobby to help with your problem. Call me.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 6:31pm Spongebobs psychiatrist wrote:
Spongebob, I think you need to book another weeks worth of sessions. We talked about you getting a hobby to help with your problem. Call me.
On 22 Jun 2009 at 6:39pm Spongebob wrote:
I'm not the one who's posting the same thing twice though am i ?
On 22 Jun 2009 at 6:40pm Careful shopper wrote:
Spongebob, at least we all agree it's all about choice. There are those who wish to preserve choices in town, including the multiples that we already have as well as the independents, and those who want to kill it off with just one giant Tesco superstore. By the way, enjoyed the comment about how Tesco would be worried if they had no rivals, as that could hurt business. So now we know you don't understand economics in the slightest. So here's a little lesson for you. If you're running a company, you want a monopoly. Monopolies mean you can charge whatever you want, and pay your staff and suppliers as little as you want as there's no other option for the public but to buy from you. Which Tesco is already doing in many areas. But here I am treating you as if you are actually curious to understand another point of view, rather than just winding people up with your repetitive comments. How long until you next say you're waiting for someone to say why existing shops will lose business.