On 5 Dec 2015 at 10:55am Jeff wrote:
What a turnout
On 5 Dec 2015 at 11:10am Jeff wrote:
On 5 Dec 2015 at 11:23am Jeff wrote:
On 5 Dec 2015 at 12:41pm resident wrote:
how many from Brighton? the car parks were full, Tesco's car park full but no shoppers in the supermarket. It does seem though that there are far more people support the development than not.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 12:47pm Celine wrote:
Amazing turn out. Brilliant march. Lewes people of all ages. Very proud to live in a place that can do this. Please don't let Lewes turn into another jaw droppingly expensive souless clone commuter town like Beaconsfield!
On 5 Dec 2015 at 12:49pm lewes wrote:
Mainly out of towers hired in an attempt to create an impact however, it was over in a flash and most people I heard talking about it in the street said something along the lines of, 'just another bunch of hippies being moved on'
On 5 Dec 2015 at 12:56pm Heff wrote:
Utter rubbish Lewes, not even a good attempt .
An extremely well attended March by locals for locals
When is the pro Santon March then? Lol
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:00pm convenient wrote:
Yeah it was great to see so many new faces
in town .
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:01pm lewes wrote:
Just what I heard on the street. In my opinion a good effort on behalf of the north street quarter artists but sadly all too late. Perhaps if they had done this before the planning app was submitted it would have made a difference but not likely to now as it will all be over on Thursday.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:02pm Jeff wrote:
Very very well attended
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:04pm drummer boy wrote:
Really impressed with the drumming but don't agree with message
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:08pm Yoghurt knitting wrote:
Can't wait for Santon to demolish that hideous shanty town. If the "artists" can't afford a workshop anymore maybe they should get a real job.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:15pm Jeff wrote:
There are over 450 real jobs down there on the Phoenix at the moment, how many will there be after the development? 40 maybe.
Have you got something against artists YK?
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:23pm Zebedee wrote:
What a surprisingly large turn out. Feeling in Lewes againat Santon's bland development appears to be running very high. And what is this tosh about people coming from Brighton? Why would anyone from Brighton be bothered about what happens to an estate in Lewes? Anyway, anyone who spends much time in Lewes town will recognise most of the faces in the march as locals. I think you can probably see it on one of the Lewes Facebook pages if you want to check it out.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:28pm bungle wrote:
Looking forward to the new north street quarter and the additional 416 houses. This is what lewes really needs to current occupants are going to be rehoused anyway.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:29pm Yoghurt knitting wrote:
I have something against artists who believe they are entitled to pay less than any other business just because they are artists.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:30pm resident wrote:
Any lefties, greens from Brighton would be bothered, any excuse to have a March. . we need development, need to get rid of the eyesore along the river bank.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:39pm Confused wrote:
Since when have Lord and Lady Renton been lefties, greens or hippies!!!??? An incredible range of local people on the march.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 1:54pm Withit wrote:
What do we want - we want real homes , real jobs and when do we want it now - all this noise is just delaying what needs to be progressed half the site is empty not anything for anyone - I was I. Town and local and know that area well there was a awful lot of people I have seen for the first time - why is there no pro March because we and our children live here and work here and open support will make local life difficult
On 5 Dec 2015 at 2:09pm Zzz... wrote:
Why don't you organise a pro march then Withit? It's be interesting to see how many turn up. Hard to imagine it would be anything like the number that turned up today. It'd probably be just the people from the one office network that keep posting here using multiple identities.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 2:15pm Jeff wrote:
Huge obvious incontrovertible opposition to Santons plans
On 5 Dec 2015 at 2:51pm convenient wrote:
@confused re lord Renton if he hadn't been such a stalwart of Maggie Thatcher in the selling off of council houses back in the day we wouldn't be needing so many affordable houses now , I think that's called irony .
On 5 Dec 2015 at 3:18pm Marcher wrote:
Just a quick note to say to anyone outside Lewes, particularly any news organisations, reading this forum, not to believe the lies that one person is spreading under multiple names here. Get your information about the march from reputable, named sources, not an Internet troll making stuff up.
Look at the photos posted on here, look at the children carrying banners, they're there to save the organisations they use that Santon/LDC want to destroy for no benefit. The rival plans also call for housing and business development in the quarter. Nobody on that march was trying to stop development. They're trying to stop the wrong development. A big difference which our resident troll doesn't appear to understand. But again, don't take my word for it, talk to the organisers, the police, real named local people to find out who was on that march and for what reasons.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 3:34pm convenient wrote:
@ Marcher , Why do the police know who was on the march ? undesirables maybe ? . And to anyone from outside Lewes reading this please don't believe that the opposition to LPR is limited or that there is one poster using multiple names , that is just what the soon to be defeated LPR would love you to believe . Nothing that's said on this forum will have any bearing on the decisions made on Thursday but its great that we all get to voice our opinions .
On 5 Dec 2015 at 3:41pm bastian wrote:
I knew most of the marchers form town and all the children on skateboards were from the local school. Theer were alot of faces form my past in Lewes, mothers of friends etc-so I can't understand anyone posting that these people weren't from Lewes, unless of course they were not from the town and don't know the people from here-the car parks were full because it's a farmers market day, you know the day when none of use dare move our cars.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 3:45pm NIMBY wrote:
People of Lewes, you cant have it both ways.......embrace Refugees and say but 'not in my back yard' to development.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 3:53pm Jeff wrote:
@nimby you're missing the point
Here it is in picture form if that helps
On 5 Dec 2015 at 3:55pm Fred wrote:
Get on with the development and let us see Lewes grow. Those that live there and work there have choices. Stop living cheaply in the Camp and let the jobs emerge from new opportunities. Lewes has too many areas which need development. Why do so many want to see Lewes stagnate.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 4:39pm Marcher 2 wrote:
I wander who the pro-development people on here think the Santon homes are going to be sold/rented to? The DFLs that everyone on here seems to hate so much, that's who. You can't have it both ways either - development and decent affordable homes for those born and bred.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 5:13pm I wander wrote:
lonely as a cloud that floats o'er Lewes and wonder WTF?
On 5 Dec 2015 at 5:50pm bastian wrote:
rents should be relevent to the lowest earnings, not the highest-that just creates a kind of wage cleansing that we have alreday begun to see in London, now it's being driven on down here-it is one ideaology over another to the detriment of ordinairy people who do vital jobs in our community. Everyone deserves a good home, not just those who earn over a certain amount, and below that you are some kind of pond life-that's immoral. two people can be working full time and earn too little to live on-that's a big problem of inequlaity, and that is what this whole protest is about. This new estate will end up being a well off persons pension fund,at the expense of a young family today, it's their future being squatted on by a well funded out of towner. 80% of the Market rate is insulting because it is still more than one person can earn for a basic living space, no frills and no doubt with a high maintainance on top pushed into the rent. Yes we need housing, but we cannot just keep treading this mill of money.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 7:10pm lewes wrote:
Bastian. You are wrong. We need housing....We need housing and that is what this development will offer buy to let competition is reduced from April so 80% of market value is a fantastic offer. Try getting that in other expensive market towns or cities like London etc. Markets are markets and the only way we can balance house prices is to create less demand for them and we can only do that by increasing housing stock. By rejecting the development you increase house prices. Your plan is not going to work. You are just looking to subsidise some nice to have businesses rather than addressing real fundamental issues.... We have a housing crisis - get real!!!!
On 5 Dec 2015 at 7:22pm Fred wrote:
Lewes, well said and that's the nub of the issue.
On 5 Dec 2015 at 8:27pm Old Malling wrote:
Whether you support or oppose the Santon development, you can't take away the strength of feeling of the marchers today. Loads of local people - families and kids and not a bunch of hippies shipped in from Brighton despite what some of the posters on here say. They won't have any impact though and the Santon plans will be approved next week. I hope that Starfish find an new home, but not too close to me with all that drumming!
On 5 Dec 2015 at 10:18pm Zippy wrote:
Zip it Bungle
On 6 Dec 2015 at 8:27am Sussex Jim wrote:
Contrary to assumptions in the previous thread; I do get out and socialise, and was there yesterday. Most of the marchers were in dull greyish clothing in silent groups between the noisy and colourful main marchers.
On 6 Dec 2015 at 9:58am John Smith wrote:
So who was the rentamob, Jim? The dull greyish ones or the "main marchers"? Were you perhaps seeing a turnout of a cross-section of the population of Lewes, all whom are really fed up with a council which behaves as if this town is its personal fiefdom?
On 6 Dec 2015 at 12:14pm harveys best wrote:
John Smith: look, people always want exciting things to do on a Saturday, what better then being part of a rebel/anti establishment movement and the felling of self righteousness that one may get from doing so. The rest of us are more realistic about the world we live in. The development will more than likely go ahead. But we'll done, valiant effort.
On 6 Dec 2015 at 6:52pm Celine wrote:
Harvey's Best - what a pathetic attitude. No wonder the world is such a mess with so many people like you just shrugging their shoulders. Be ashamed.
On 6 Dec 2015 at 8:17pm harveys best wrote:
I'm only shrugging my shoulders at phoenix rising. I wholeheartedly support the santon development as it is the best option for lewes as we really need housing and flood defences. Don't see how that contributes to making the world a mess which is a tad dramatic on your part to imply.
On 6 Dec 2015 at 10:11pm Belladonna wrote:
All the supporters of Santon seem unable to realise that the new Santon houses will be unaffordable to most local families. I can bet the cheapest 3 bed will be 5-600 thousand - and there will be million pound houses on the riverside. This new estate will not be affordable - even the 80pc units - so who is going to buy there ? Most likely DFLs who many locals who embrace the scheme complain bitterly about - because house prices rise and bring 'lifestyle' shops that change the character of the town. Oh the irony
On 6 Dec 2015 at 10:22pm lewes wrote:
Belladonna: reduce demand by creating a higher volume of houses. This reduces prices. (The only way to do it I'm afraid aside from limiting the population growth like in china).
Personally i'd prefer to build more houses instead. Phoenix risings plan is no different to Santon's in that respect.