On 18 Aug 2014 at 10:25pm Registration wrote:
Following racists comments below please can we push for registration on this forum.
On 18 Aug 2014 at 10:40pm Bellenden Belle wrote:
This forum could be such a vital resource for this community but without registration, every person who takes the trouble to post has their efforts undermined.
I want to be able to trust posters, I want people to take responsibility for their comments, and I want to see regular posters names popping up so I can form opinions on whose voice is worth listening to.
I've seen plenty of unsavoury comments on here - not just racist comments, but sexist too. Is this really how we want Lewes represented online?
On 19 Aug 2014 at 5:30am Clifford wrote:
I partly agree with you Bellenden Belle and Registration. On the other hand, I suppose we need reminding occasionally that there are some vile individuals in this town whose only pleasure is kicking the weak when they're down.
On 19 Aug 2014 at 6:56am Sussex Jim wrote:
I think there is no need for further registration. Webbo does occasionally remove unacceptable posts, and anyone can be traced through their computer.
We can ignore the trolls and the sillier posts; they are only on the screen.
On 19 Aug 2014 at 7:39am bunting wrote:
sorry sussex jim i disagree I think registration is needed .
On 19 Aug 2014 at 7:44am bunting wrote:
sorry posted before finished- the "sillier" posts are more than that- racism is not silly nor is sexism or any other kind of hate. it is serious stuff. i am so terribly ashamed of my fellow lewesians.
i am all for open discussions but there has to be a point where we say enough is enough, lets take some responsibility for what we post and say.
On 19 Aug 2014 at 8:35am bastian wrote:
Because this is an open forum, who is to say that the poster is from Lewes. Yes this town has a proprtion of racists as in any town/ village/ hamlet, but there is nothing to say they are from here. registration would make this forum very cosey, you could ignore racism, sexism etc, but it will still be out there and at least when you can see it you can challenge it-which is a vital chance to enlighten the idiot who posted it and others who are starting out and haven't thought about the consequences yet. It isn't mandetory to read posts entitled Rag heads, I haven't because I thought it looked like b*ll*cks. You might like to moderate for yourselves.
On 19 Aug 2014 at 8:56am The Tooth Fairy wrote:
The problem with registration is that the only people who will bother will be the former metropolitan, left wing wind bags who seem to have taken over here
Debate will no longer exist.
It's odd, every time someone posts a comment they don't like then they scream for registration, After calling the OP racist, sexist, Londonist etc
People have a right to express their opinion.
You remind me of when the Brown creature committed electoral suicide by calling an old working class lady a bigot for the crime of expressing her concern about the number of foreigners moving into her neighbourhood
Shame he didn't have the balls to say it to her face
On 19 Aug 2014 at 9:35am Bellenden Belle wrote:
There is nothing to stop people with right-wing views registering and engaging in debate on public forums. It is perhaps the joy of a well-run forum that people do engage who may have opposing opinions.
And registration doesn't need to exclude people not from Lewes - it simply means people register an email address and build up a posting history.
Imagine if we had a forum that had the capacity for private messages - where people could actually contact individual posters in response to requests and discussions. At the moment nothing on here is very tangible - if someone asks for information, they have no idea if they can trust the responses.
This could be a brilliant forum for a fantastic town, full of people with opinions and ideas and with so much going on that could be supported on these pages.
On 19 Aug 2014 at 9:39am Thomas Jerome Newton wrote:
so, tooth fairy, explain to me why it's only "former metropolitan, left wing wind bags"
why wouldn't people like you register, and continue the "debate"?
My suspicion is that we will find out that it isn't a whole bunch of people with rancid, reactionary opions, but just a couple of small-minded, pathetic individuals posing as all manner of "witty name to suit the subject" unique posters
And there is nothing of a debate about learning of the horror of individuals dying in a fetid cargo container, having travelled halfway across the world only to call them ragheads
That is not debate, or even an opinion. An opinion requires thought, consideration and a basic grasp of humanity. The idea that this forum would be worse of without "opinions" like that is laughable
On 19 Aug 2014 at 9:50am The minstrel wrote:
Isn't racial stuff just convenient for both the abused and the abuser , it's all a bit playground don't you think , four eyes ? And fatty can you see your iPad over your gut , see how easy that is , ( and yes I'm overweight and wear glasses ) , its not easy to tolerate it some times and its never necessary , but it appers to be part of modern life , there is and off switch on all social media devices , or should that be antisocial media , even lots of sayings are one questionable when really they should be as they are , "it's as black as the ace of spades " offensive I don't think so but to some maybe ,why I have no idea. So the black kid in the states shot by a white policeman is that a fair statement ? Or should we be more shocked that a kid has been shoot dead , is there any relevance to each parties colour ? Maybe , maybe not ,
On 19 Aug 2014 at 11:39am Not Right or Left wrote:
@ Thomas Jerome Newton strikes me you've reinforced the point made by Tooth Fairy.
What a pompous poster you are
On 19 Aug 2014 at 12:22pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I'm on other forums where registration is required and I'm afraid it doesn't stop people posting racist rants or any other sort of offensive post.
They mostly do it to get a reaction imo, and are best ignored.
Webbo's very quick to remove offensive stuff.
On 19 Aug 2014 at 12:38pm Thomas Jerome Newton wrote:
You are correct it doesn't stop it. It does however, make it harder for individuals to portray themselves as multiple personalities. Doesn't prevent it but does make it harder
Plus you can soon spot a trail of identities that only make one or two posts. Whereas people who genuinely want to debate can build up a history so you get some idea of where they are coming from
If there are advantages to not registering, i don't see them
On 19 Aug 2014 at 1:37pm Merlin Milner wrote:
Have two forums. One open, the other needing registration.
On 19 Aug 2014 at 2:11pm Pugwash wrote:
The fact webbo has access to our 'ip' address is sufficient enough. I trust he also removes any offending material promptly.
My email address if you must have it is: email@example.com
On 19 Aug 2014 at 2:32pm Deelite 2 wrote:
The racist and sexist comments might be posted by a very small number of individuals (perhaps even two or three) and mostly in an attempt to wind up what they see as the lefties here. There is a possibility they have no belief in their comments at all (or even themselves).
Merlin. Two forums might dilute the posters too much, but it would be very interested to see exactly what does happen. It's worth bearing in mind that since the Lewes forum has been running at least two other forums (or social platforms) requiring registration have opened up and both died through lack of interest (one being the excretable Lewes Life).
On 19 Aug 2014 at 6:33pm Sir Fracknot wrote:
Excretable or execrable Deelite 2? Maybe it was both!
On 19 Aug 2014 at 8:24pm Deelite 2 wrote:
On 20 Aug 2014 at 1:06am Scared to speak out wrote:
Freedom of speech, is that why people from around the world want to live here, yet we pick and choose whats right to say or not,so we dont offend? Its only words!
On 20 Aug 2014 at 9:11am Zzz.. wrote:
No, that's mainly to do with language and economics.
On 20 Aug 2014 at 9:48am Historian wrote:
People are such a disappointment !
On 20 Aug 2014 at 10:48am Bored of trolls wrote:
The responses to the posting about Grapes has convinced me that registration would be a good thing. Perfectly reasonable subject descends into puerile banter. I don't bother reading most posts now. Shame, the forum has such potential.
On 20 Aug 2014 at 12:37pm Bored of the Pompous wrote:
What's it like being po faced and humourless
On 20 Aug 2014 at 1:12pm Old Cynic wrote:
Its so sad that even the simplest request for information or comment gets taken over by witless trolls - its not being po-faced and humourless to object because much of what is posted isn't humour - its often crass, childish, sexist, racist and homophobic. It damages Lewes as it tars every one with the same brush and gives the impression that residents look like a bunch of swivel eyed loons - is that really what we want? We really are in a pathetic sate of affairs when we can't even have a conversation about a grape harvest without crass comments
On 20 Aug 2014 at 1:35pm Bored of the Pompous wrote:
On 20 Aug 2014 at 1:38pm Bored of the trolls wrote:
I listen to and watch comdy all the time, and went to see Inbetweeners 2 last weekend and laughed most of the way through it. But that is because I chose to watch or listen to comedy. However when it's people just making inane comments about a proper post it's not really comedy, just lack of imagination. Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish.
On 20 Aug 2014 at 1:47pm i get it wrote:
ok so now I've got it, it is not in owner's interest to have registration as there will be less people posting and visiting the site and therefore advertising revenues etc .
On 20 Aug 2014 at 2:24pm Bored of the Pompous wrote:
@Bored of the Trolls - I rest my case.
If you're so able to choose your comedy why not choose the stuff you read on here.
Must be dark being so far up there
On 20 Aug 2014 at 2:52pm Tar Baby wrote:
Don`t tar me with that brush - I`ll get Brer Rabbit onto you
On 20 Aug 2014 at 6:56pm tom wrote:
How would registration work in practise? By email address? Well, that is very easy to work around.
By IP address and Browser Cookies? Webbo already does some 'behind the scenes' stuff anyway on that. And again there is nothing to stop anyone changing IP address or using a wifi cafe & deleting their cookies.
I'm afraid this is simply the world wide web. You cannot change the internet - it's the 'wild west' - and a reflection of everything that is good and bad in the world. If you don't like seeing bad/ignorant things in the world then stop using the internet - simple.
On 20 Aug 2014 at 7:37pm Dick wrote:
Well said - I gave you a thumbs up
On 20 Aug 2014 at 7:39pm Harry wrote:
Agree with you 2
On 20 Aug 2014 at 8:51pm concerned wrote:
i don't think anyone has acknowledged a recent success of this forum in the way it functions. With the 'Subud' issue it became a sharp, and balanced - in the main- weapon for bringing an issue of importance into the public domain. There was no witch hunt, only people informing themselves and creating a plenary of opinion. Personally i thought it was impressive especially since its momentum finally broke into the 'real world' of public meetings and newspapers etc (which is not to say that there is still no work to be done on this issue) Personally I think it was a break through in terms of what forums like this can achieve. In today's world where individuals carry so very little clout it was a real, effectual measured collaboration. Do you know, in a modest way it was groundbreaking.
On 20 Aug 2014 at 11:20pm In The Real World wrote:
@concerned - what a load of tosh. I'd guess something like 0.02% of the Lewes population come on here (if that) and half of them are the same person.
This is just a place of small amusement for the grounded and a sometime platform for a handful of rather dull pontificators
On 21 Aug 2014 at 2:35am Di Willoughby Dunne wrote:
No matter what you do to stop it , it WILL go ahead because it is the WILL of God that we have St Anne`s.
On 21 Aug 2014 at 8:26am Piece of Card wrote:
Nice one Di - You paseth all understanding