On 6 Sep 2012 at 2:23pm Old Bag wrote:
Ross Nunn posted the following in the previous thread:
"Provide me with examples where people have politely pointed out the errors? All we ever get on here is s**t! Have you not been reading the previous posts - we have said that we know that sometimes our behavious can be less than perfect, and we havn't said once we dont care either.
Tell you what Madge, you have voiced your concern thats as far as it goes. Call us kids, pathetic, idiots whatever you like. I'm not saying you should thank us, but realise that it could be far worse than litter and swearing!!!"
It isn't really as far as it goes though, is it? Clearly a lot of people find the mere presence and behaviour of Ross and his friends intimidating and thoroughly anti-social. Surely it's irrelevant if they're tax payers or adults or anything else? What matters is that most people think that chucking litter on the ground, parking selfishly and swearing loudly is unacceptable, doesn't it?
It could indeed be a lot worse than litter and swearing, but that's not really the point is it? Ross, your neighbours don't like the way you behave: they'd like you not to swear in front of their kids and not to toss litter and fag ends on the ground. Why do you insist that you should continue to behave anti-socially, and why should we celebrate the fact that it isn't any worse? I am very politely pointing out your error, which is that your community does not welcome your behaviour. It's not the first time you've had a starring role on this forum either, is it? So why not stop? Go somewhere else where you're not annoying or intimidating people?
On 6 Sep 2012 at 2:52pm Outsider wrote:
Is this deemed anti-social behaviour and has it been reported to the police?
On 6 Sep 2012 at 3:57pm nevill idiot!! wrote:
i think this is all a bit funny really if u all have such a problem with us being up the park why dont you come and tell us to our face instead of posting it on here! and as for the mondeo being parked on the grass if a certain couple of people didnt park like idiots then it could be parked on the road. people have reported us to the police but they cant do anything as we are not doing anything wrong.
On 6 Sep 2012 at 4:04pm Outsider wrote:
Do any of the following apply?
â?¢issues with licensed premises
â?¢non-violent neighbour disputes
â?¢other behaviour that causes harrassment, alarm or distress
If yes, the police can do something.
On 6 Sep 2012 at 4:08pm Cathcart wrote:
It just sounds like that Nevill has a bunch of curtain twitchers constantly noting down every little indiscretion they find unsatisfactory. So someone parks on the grass...it's honestly not the end of the world. So they swear loudly...if it bothers you, mention it. It's not their fault if you find them intimidating and have to vent on some tiny portion of the Internet to get some sort of release. From what Ross etc have written here they do not exactly come across as hooligans, or whatever other frankly passÃ© term you would like to apply to them. The fact that they are bothered enough to reply to all this palava shows a certain level of social awareness anyway. Labelling people as chavs, bringing up ASBOs and suchlike is just narrow minded.
Nothing they are doing is criminal. There are dispersal orders in town for areas like near the Pells where residents have an actual problem with what goes on near their residences. However I think if you try and bother police with this kind of stuff it would be more akin to wasting police time than anything else!
To be fair, if all parties acted a bit more like adults, maybe this kind of stuff could be mooted before it became an issue.
On 6 Sep 2012 at 4:09pm Old Bag wrote:
Thank you Nevill idiot!! Can I congratulate you on your choice of nickname?
I don't think it really matters whether you're "doing anything wrong" as far as the police are concerned: I'm just interested in why you persist in doing it when you quite clearly are upsetting everyone around you. It's not just a few people either - lots of people would like you to go somewhere else. And why on earth should the police waste their time trying to get you to behave like responsible adults when you know perfectly well what the problem is?
I wouldn't want to confront you (which is certainly what "telling you to your faces" would amount to). Why don't you just stop or go somewhere else? I really don't understand. Nevill Idiot is obviously exactly right.
On 6 Sep 2012 at 5:00pm Mr b wrote:
Me,ross and all the others have a problem,that were constantly being told were hooligans,troublemakers etc,when all we are is a group of friends who have a laugh and enjoy each others company,i would understand if we were drinking and fighting in the street but were not!what happened in landport park last night?dosent happen up here,or outside lincolns every weekend night?surely the 'problem' we cause is nothing compared to that?
On 6 Sep 2012 at 5:19pm Mr b wrote:
Is it as bad as what happens in the town centre at weekends?are we drinking and fighting in the streets?any drugs up here?no i didnt think so,a group of friends with a common interest,moving us on dosnt work because really we do nothing wrong,its just amplified into something bigger than it really is!moving us dosnt work because theres always someone who complains,even local police(who i speak to)say its a waste of there time!
On 6 Sep 2012 at 6:10pm padster wrote:
Pet hate: parking on the grass or pavement and not the road. If there is no room on the road park where there is room, not on the grass , pavement its really ugly and rude and lazy. I dont think it makes you a bad person by the way. Here is my list of best to worse in lewes for living based on no more than my own unqualified opinion.
1 anywhere in or around bradford road , lovely area.
2 malling best for proximity and cheaper housing
3 landport good housing stock and no in-fighting like nevill
4 nevill, good housing stock and easy access to downs
5 cliffe, hotbed of religious free church luthern pyromaniacs!! ( relax its just a joke but true)
6 those houses opposite the prison
I thank you.
I appreciate the lack of relevance to the thread.
On 6 Sep 2012 at 6:18pm Old Bag wrote:
That's all as may be, Mr b and all the rest of you. I can't really see that what goes on of an evening outside Lincolns is relevant any more than observing that it's worse in Damascus. The point is that a lot of people really don't like you hanging around there and find you intimidating. There's not much point in insisting that you're not a threat if people feel otherwise, is there? I wouldn't want to upset everyone in my community, so I'm intrigued as to why you're happy to do it anyway. As I asked before, why don't you just go somewhere else where you won't cause a nuisance?
On 6 Sep 2012 at 6:48pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I know the circumstances of at least 2 of these people and they definitely don't have jobs.
Some of the people who live nearby find it intimidating to have to walk through a crowd of scruffy, foul-mouthed young men hanging around on the pavement every time they go to the bus stop. Some object to the litter left behind, some simply think it lowers the tone of what is actually quite a nice area.
I think they have a valid point. Why should people have to put up with an impromptu motor repair shop outside their homes all day long?
On 6 Sep 2012 at 8:50pm Town Centre Resident wrote:
Working on the public highway is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE unless employed by AA, RAC or ESCC Highways.
When I have visited the Nevill, the chavs working on their "mota's" cause obstruction and are offensive - they certainly degrade the area.
I've witnessed these chavs driving like idiots around the town, demonstrating their complete disregard for the highway code and the general public.
How on earth did these morons pass their driving tests?
On 6 Sep 2012 at 9:08pm Nev vile wrote:
It does appear to be everyone else fault doesn't it ? I can't park my car 2 feet from my fron door because others have parked here , so that means I can do what I dam well like and sod every one else , spoken like a true teenage Chav !
On 6 Sep 2012 at 10:46pm Rose tinted wrote:
Maybe just me , but a red nova parked oddly not on yellow lines this time , for a couple of days , then it all became clear , it was parked legally , just no tax on it , just a big yellow clamp , it's now in the garden , wonder who they can try and pin that one on , the kids on the swings ? Someone from winterbourne ? It's just all part of a big package of petty stuff , clean your act up lads and every thing would be sweet
On 7 Sep 2012 at 1:09pm someone else wrote:
Interesting statistical fact for you all. In Britain, we are less trusting of strangers than in any other European nation. And we have more CCTV than all of them.
On 7 Sep 2012 at 2:53pm mr b wrote:
The clamped nova had no tax and deserved its clamp its taxed now incase u wondered or havnt checked recently.end of the day it all comes down to the police or council to talk to us.it would be face to face and civil instead of the petty name calling we get on here.l
The problem is everywhere not just here,half of you don't even live up nevill
On 7 Sep 2012 at 3:12pm mondeo man wrote:
if it is such a big problem to you lot speak to us about it and stop posting it on here. and as for parking my car out side my own house i will do that if i want to i like the way no one has said about the yellow mini parked on the grass today at dunvan close!!
On 7 Sep 2012 at 3:47pm Ross Nunn wrote:
Town centre resident - first of all define chav? We will work on our cars wherever we see fit. We dont block the road traffic still flows and the pavement we move out of the way for pedestrians. Plus we couldn't care less if you like the look of our cars or not you dont have to drive them do you?!! Senario for you - your driving along the road, you have a blow out, and there is nobody to help you straight away, you decide to change the wheel your self. Is that an offence is it??? Oh and your a moron too!
Rose Tinted - not going to pin that one on anyone - own fault - car had no tax, got clamped, paid, then taken off, end of story.
Annette Curtin-Twitcher - we do all have jobs actually, apart from one who is at college! Not that it's any of your business - unlucky! And its not a motor repair shop - just decent blokes working on a car - doubt you'd moan if someone was out in their fron garden building furniture or sculpting!!
Nev Vile - its ok and legal to park a car on access protection marking accross the drive! So yeah we will do that whenever we like 24/7 its not causing an obstruction - ive seen 15ton lorries drives past us with 3 or 4 cars there. Oh and plus none of us are teenageor chavs! Oh and the second part of your alias suits you!!
Old Bag - we'll tidy up after visits - and try watch our language around the park when kids present.
Cathcart - Thank you
On 7 Sep 2012 at 3:55pm Old Bag wrote:
We ARE speaking to you about it, mr b and mondeo man. I don't know how many times you need to hear from your neighbours that they find you intimidating. That's why they're not addressing you direct but via this forum. The only excuse you've offered so far is that things are worse elsewhere which as has been said numerous times before is totally irrelevant.
On 7 Sep 2012 at 4:09pm Old Bag wrote:
Sorry: got interrupted and posted after Ross had replied.
Thank you for that, really. I think this has been a useful discussion: a bit of give and take on the part of you guys and the neighbours is what's needed, maybe?
On 7 Sep 2012 at 5:36pm Nev vile wrote:
Ross my name is actually a piss take on you lot , didn't spot it did you ! I was going to mention the yellow mini I saw it today and not a car on the road , maybe he thinks if you can do it so can he , see what you have started , and now you have moaned on here about it lol! Yes I understand you can park on that white line , but that's not what it was intended for was it ! ( that's not a question by the way ) lets face it you are doing unpopular things and it upsets people , you could change your attitude , and it was nice to see you taking your kids there today , teaching the next generation , NICE ONE !
On 7 Sep 2012 at 6:08pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
There's a world of difference between someone occasionally fixing a car, or anything else for that matter, in their front garden or even in the road. That is prefectly acceptable. Routinely parking outside other people's houses and working on cars on a regular basis is a completely different matter.
Many of those who congregate outside the corner house aren't even Nevill residents. I'm told that 2 of the regular crowd live on Landport and another on Ousedale. What's wrong with working on cars outside their own houses?
While it may well be legal to park on the access markings, provding you have the consent of the person whose access you are obstructing, the white line is only about one car length long, and but RN has said that there are sometimes 3 or 4 cars there (not that we needed to be told). At least 2 or 3 of them must therefore be on the double yellow lines.
"We will work on our cars wherever we see fit." Well, that sums it up, really doesn't it? "We'll do what we want and don't give a toss about anyone who doesn't like it" is pretty much what that adds up to.
And if you guys really find it necessary to make the corner of the green look like a breaker's yard, can you at least stop gobbing while you're at it? That really is disgusting.
On 7 Sep 2012 at 7:05pm Taxi lady wrote:
This is all very interesting, I for one do not find teenage/early twenty year olds intimidating but then in this trade I see them as they really are, I have seen them Drunk, Angry,Tired, Upset,Crying, Sulking and all those other emotions that humans suffer and most of all very Polite and Understanding.
Being trapped in a car with people who`s emotions have gone astray would scare most people,But I have found that all you have to do in 99% of cases is listen.
Now what I have heard from these lads is Please talk to us,Don`t be worried, and we will try to clean up our act .
Yes, there is the retaliation to the nasty comments, The we will do what we want stuff, But I`m seeing you older adults having a chance to bond with your neighbours and to sort out your your problems.
Why has not someone suggested that while they work on a problem with a car the others park in the legal parking spots nearby out of the way.
Ask them to keep the noise down, ask them to clean up behind themselves.
Its all about attitude, Have the right one and you will go far and be remembered as a nice person.
BTW Being a taxi driver, I get all the woes of people but the three times Lewes people have scared me was a middle class lady from Nevil who was, Quote` Make sure I would not have anymore children` because she did not like the fare. A Houndean Rise lady who,Quote` Hope my children were born crippled`same reason, and a Man from Malling `who was not paying and I was going to die if I called the police. All of these were well over forty...
I think you have a problem that is small here really, so go out and chat with the guys, and have fun.
Ps I do not know any of them but know of them .
On 7 Sep 2012 at 7:11pm Taxi lady wrote:
PPS@lads by park,Use your common sense now,
On 7 Sep 2012 at 7:23pm Mr b wrote:
When have we worked on a car on the road recently?and was we teaching future generations how to be like us?or were we just playing football and sitting about talking?completly pathetic,didnt do anything wrong today in the slightest and your still talking?were available for autographs if you want them since it seems like your our biggest fans!
On 7 Sep 2012 at 7:30pm Deaf ears wrote:
That mondeo is a heap!!!!and the red and white punto is a shocker!!!!!!
On 7 Sep 2012 at 8:02pm CitroÃ«n saxo dude wrote:
At this moment there are teenagers in the park drinking swearing and making noise,but i bet nothing gets said about that!!!!
On 7 Sep 2012 at 8:03pm the old mayor wrote:
So - Is it true house prices have plummeted in Nevill then ?
On 7 Sep 2012 at 8:33pm Joe wrote:
AllThe time they working on there cars they not causing any trouble ! There's lots worst people out there causing crime etc , reading all the posts it's getting so boring ,this thread can't keep going on
On 7 Sep 2012 at 9:07pm Angry wrote:
Do us a favour lads and take your cars and tools down Southover way for the weekend and show the locals there what reality is.
On 7 Sep 2012 at 9:45pm laughing at this post!! wrote:
all you busy bodies need to get a life seriously these lads are polite if you speak to them!! they always say hello to me and my children when we go to this park!! you'd be surprised how nice they are if you gave them the time of day to just say hello!!! and to Nev Vile you sound like a right strange one spying on these people taking their kids to the park!!!!!! get a god damn life!!!
On 7 Sep 2012 at 10:46pm Ross Nunn wrote:
Old Bag - Think your right! Bit of give and take sure would work ad go a long way, but please if you can, say hello and we can talk properly if there is a issue.
Nev Vile - You come across as a right turd! You done have nothing on me! I do hope we never meet, don't think your someone I would like to associated with! Although you may just be in need of a hug! Try a pillow they are like friends to people with the same mind set as you, shame most of them are in padded cells eh?!
Annette Curtin-Twitcher - Ssshhhhh!
Thank you to all else who saw it from both sides and supported!
On 7 Sep 2012 at 11:12pm Nev vile wrote:
Oh but ross you do know me x
On 7 Sep 2012 at 11:23pm Shamy wrote:
Leave them alone and get a life you whingers.
On 8 Sep 2012 at 3:33am Mr b wrote:
ross your in trouble!nev vile knows you....but is still hiding behind his alias?u must be really intimidating if somone you know wont come and speak to you when u say f**k in the street!this has gone a bit beyond complaining about us now,has anyone noticed how clean the corner of the green is?not a fag but or can in sight?no i doubt it,too busy watching us play football on the green or cleaning your special 'curtain twitching binoculars?'nevill residents,were not the problem anymore by the looks of it,its the slightly creepy way that everything gets seen round here that id be worried about! Remove all cctv from the town and replace them with nev vile and annette curtain twitcher,they see and know everything!!!!!
On 8 Sep 2012 at 7:09am Joe wrote:
By reading the posts , Nevil estate sounds like a right sad place to live! Too many curtain twitchers ,they all Want to get a life ! You only live once so enjoy! Least the lads in the cars are!! Shame the area is going down hill . Every one putting extensions on the place looks a mess
On 8 Sep 2012 at 11:33am madge wrote:
Look lads I would hope that your parents, grandparents and other family members did not swear around you as children and if they are aware of all this controversy surely will not be pleased that you are being thoughtless around other peoples young children. You are adults who should not need reminding how to conduct yourself in public, its only basic manners that everyone in your community is asking of you. If people were disrepecful in front of your children or loved ones you would be equally annoyed as others on here. You may well be ok people but we are all judged by what we do and how we conduct ourselves in public and you lads are no different. Please dont keep asking folk to approach you (there really is no need) others in your community are ok people too but they are not expecting you to find that out. It all gets a bit emboiled & peope are not meaning to be unreasonable, they are upset & simply trying to let you now how they feel in the hope you may address your actions. Lets hope this is the end of it all & things will improve from hereon in.