On 17 Feb 2009 at 1:56pm Phil Bennison wrote:
Am just writing a quick post to say goodbye to the lovely shops in Lewes.
I have now received my second parking ticket
1st one was parking in the wrong type of space, i bought a pay & display for zone f not zone g?, (even though it was the closest pay and display machine).
2nd one was for buying a pay & display ticket for a space that was a free space (The sign informing me of this was 150mm x 100mm and placed about 8ft high, but never mind).
I am quite happy to pay higher prices to support the local community, but as the nazi traffic wardens are roaming with no common sense, I shall be going to the the big out of town stores from now on.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 2:27pm river boy wrote:
well more and more people are doing just that. i said about a year or so ago lewes will be a goast town with 5 year . well that may be a little over the top
but will the council help. its going that way.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 2:45pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
And do they care? No, just as long as they meet their 'performance targets', whatever they are and however absurd they are.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 3:47pm river boy wrote:
you are right lewes laugher
On 17 Feb 2009 at 5:36pm Rooferman wrote:
Its just not shoppers but also builders who are not treated with any consideration in Lewes. I would rather work in Brighton any day of the week !The wardens are more understanding than the REGIME in Lewes.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 7:03pm Rebecca wrote:
In reply to Rooferman why don't you ask your client for a Visitor Permit? In reply to the rest - stop whinging, use your eyes and common sense. So many people just want (like in the USA) to drive from home to the shop. This just isn't possible in a small town like Lewes. What's the problem about paying a small parking charge and actually using your legs and walking around this wonderful town?
On 17 Feb 2009 at 7:25pm SHS wrote:
Can you imagine how many trips a roofer would have to make to carry tiles, lead, tools and battens to his place of work? The issue is partly one of degree - if someone has paid for a ticket, does it really matter if it is upside down or for a neighbouring area? I agree most people living in Lewes can walk everywhere but wider, safer pavements and some reliable public transport would help. The parking scheme affects people coming in to Lewes from the surrounding area, people who have a choice in the towns they choose to support but not a choice in how they get there.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 7:27pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
There's so much history embedded in Lewes. Historically Lewes folk have spirit and don't like being told what to do, especially by a clueless, deaf, half witted council.
If it weren't for those Lewes folk of old I doubt if Lewes would be the "wonderful town" that you enjoy.
There will always be people who have an unquestioning sheep like mentality... Rebecca.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 7:40pm Rooferman wrote:
In reply to Rebecca,i always ask for a permit but sometimes this does not allow me to park near to my workplace and this is where the problem lies.
Everything is black and white to them with no leeway for common sense especially loading/unloading
On 17 Feb 2009 at 7:49pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
Rebecca may or may not be a Green - but the kind of arrogance she shows doesn't win people with genuine concerns about the environment any friends.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 8:58pm Another Rebecca wrote:
I am ashamed that anyone with my name could post such a damn foolish post. Suggest she calls herself "Becky"
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:06pm Stargazer wrote:
The wardens do not have "targets" to meet, they are simply following the rules laid down by the council. And how are they supposed to know if a ticket is valid if it's upside down? If people out there weren't so dishonest then the wardens wouldn't have to ticket them. That is the purpose of giving tickets. My goodness people in Lewes really are stupid. Its not rocket science to park in the correct zone or to look for signs when you park, after all Lewes is a CONTROLLED PARKING ZONE. But of course the parking scheme is their favourite topic of conversation and gives them something to whinge about on this forum to brighten up their dull little lives. GET A LIFE.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:08pm Furness wrote:
Its the rest of you that are "foolish". Rebecca was spot on. Use your eyes and common sense and don't park where you shouldn't.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:09pm IndiaArt wrote:
Another moaning thread about parking...yaaawwwnnn
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:27pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
Furness - it's not what Rebecca said, it's the unpleasant way she said it.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:30pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
You're really going to town here, aren't you Stargazer. People in Lewes are 'dishonest' and 'stupid'. You're not one of the wardens yourself are you? If so, that explains a lot. If not, have you thought of joining them?
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:37pm Stargazer wrote:
Nah I'm not. i just use my brains when I park.
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:40pm Rooferman wrote:
Furness, are you a traffic warden in disguise ? I bet you've never parked where you shouldn't in your life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Next time i work in Lewes i will invite you to spend a day with me and see how it is in reality and not how it is from the comfort of you armchair
On 18 Feb 2009 at 8:10am council bod wrote:
rooferman why dont you get a waver from the parking shop then you may park for the time you need
On 18 Feb 2009 at 10:56am Too far away to walk wrote:
Its all very well leaving the car at home and walking to the shops, but a big chunk of Lewes also has to pay for a permit to park outside their own homes. If they drive into town then they are not using the parking facility that they have already paid for, so why should they pay a second time to park somewhere else. In any case, it is not so much the Lewes residents that are voting with their feet, but the people who live outside the town and used to come here to do their shopping (Kingston, Ringmer etc..) Can anyone actually remember what was so bad before that meant we had to have parking restrictions ?
On 18 Feb 2009 at 12:02pm Merlin Milner wrote:
The scheme is over-complicated, over zealous and in-flexible. Most people will pay for parking but in Lewes this scheme is unsuitable for this town. Other places have better systems. There are some towns that have a system where if you are over your time you get a ticket that allows one to either buy am additional ticket or if you ignore it get the fine.
The small signage is because of the restrictions on signage in a conservation area.
On 18 Feb 2009 at 12:19pm Chuck wrote:
The Council weren't making enough money, that was what was so bad. Still, ESCC need to have the funds to keep their teenagers supplied with condoms.
On 18 Feb 2009 at 1:51pm Dave2 wrote:
The parking scheme does have its good points but has many more bad points.
Before the parking scheme you couldn't park anywhere near the town center on the high street etc as it was allways full.
Prob with people parking and then working all day leaving shoppers struggling.
Now you can now get a space all the time
what I object to is in one given road you have different meters depending on
where you park some are residents different zones etc they put small signs up telling of out of use etc (put some bloody cones in a space if its of use )
people I dont think mind paying to park but having to spend ten mins checking if the space you found is resident if not correct meter etc then getting a ticket for honest mistake
make it easier for us
On 18 Feb 2009 at 2:39pm Rooferman wrote:
council bod, buying a waiver does'nt always guarantee a parking place close to where you are working and no refund from the NCP if it does'nt.
I once got a waiver,had to park partly on the road/pavement next to the house to load up several heavy items - got a ticket despite having a waiver !
On 18 Feb 2009 at 2:59pm Phil Bennison wrote:
Re India Art.
Dont be such a twat, The reason for my posting was purely to vent off steam about the nazis who patrol the parking. If you read my post, you will see that both times i have got a ticket, i have bought a pay & display from the nearest machine.
In agreement with Dave2's post, I dont have time to waste seaching the area for tiny notices.
THAT is the reason that i will be shopping outside Lewes. If reading posts like this bores you, may i suggest that you dont read them and do something more thrilling such as A27 Blind mans buff or bungee jumping
On 18 Feb 2009 at 6:33pm IndiaArt wrote:
Calling someone a twat because your thread bores them...classy.
I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your ramblings but im sure its just as exciting as your first load.
On 18 Feb 2009 at 6:36pm Furness wrote:
hahahaha, no i'm not a traffic warden and wouldn't wana be one to be perfectly honest, i drive for a living so i understand perfectly what you're annoyed about, the thing is, its not hard to park properly unless you're a complete moron. Get off your armchair and read the highway code!
On 18 Feb 2009 at 10:33pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Phil, appeal your ticket. When I inadvertently got a ticket from the wrong machine for where I'd parked, I got it written off. Mind you, I did mention that a traffic warden saw me get the ticket from the wrong machine and stick it on the car and didn't have the decency to tell me!
The notices are ludicrously tiny and often very high on walls etc. There was one down near the Pells a couple of years ago that had disappeared completely amid the foliage of a sumac tree. What are you meant to do, carry a machete?
It's all very well to say "use your eyes", but if you genuinely believe that you're parked legally, you think you've seen all you need to see. It's also impossible to read the damn things after about 4 in the winter, as they're mostly not illuminated.
On 19 Feb 2009 at 10:24am Im the speeding mobility scooter driver wrote:
Join me!! No tickets or permits required!!! Ben Hur spikes on the wheels!!
On 19 Feb 2009 at 1:23pm Ed Can Do wrote:
It's always worth appealing, especially as a lot of the parking bays in Lewes are drawn up wrong and therefore can't be enforced. If it's one long bay, there should be a single row of dashes from the pavement to the outside line at each end. If they're individual bays, there should be a double row of dashes at each end.
If memory serves, they're wrong in Sun Street and certainly used to be wrong just down past Homebase. If you find some wrong ones you can park happily all day, then appeal the ticket. The chances of them ever being bothered to re-paint the lines are slim as not enough people know about the law to use this as a get-out.
I saw this on the Dom Jolly show "The Complainers", look it up for the full story.
On 19 Feb 2009 at 1:45pm Phil Bennison wrote:
India Art, Drop dead
Annette, I agree, I am quite happy to pay for a ticket that i get, if i park illegaly and risk it !, but the fact that i'd bought a ticket for 3 hours, should make the wardens realise its a genuine mistake. The ironic thing is that i work for the council and was attending a council meeting ! (Unfortunately wrong department !)
On 19 Feb 2009 at 7:13pm Bluewave wrote:
Phil seems very aggressive, why is this? Just because somebody finds you boring why do you have to swear? Frankly yet another thread about parking IS boring.
On 19 Feb 2009 at 8:55pm council bod wrote:
no one likes parking scheme but its here to stay as most towns have one now days. but ncp may not be here for much longer as the contract expires in october, so perhaps with all your help perswade the councils to find another contractor speak to baker as "tesco would say every little helps"
On 20 Feb 2009 at 10:26am Ed Can Do wrote:
Yeah because the councils round here are renowned for listening to what the people want and not just doing what suits them best as individuals...
On 21 Feb 2009 at 2:17am Funny wrote:
erm..why should ncp have to refund you the money if you cant find a space? They cant predict the traffic. And you cant park on pavements - no wonder you got a ticket.
On 22 Feb 2009 at 8:11pm sashimi wrote:
OK, Merlin. Your analysis is right. Your lot voted this scheme in and now they oppose it. No point in bitching when you are in the driving seat. So, what's the plan then? There's an election in June and the contract is up for review. Are you going to scrap the scheme and if not how will you modify it?
On 23 Feb 2009 at 2:22pm DEMON2 wrote:
TRAFFIC WARDENS IN LEWES R MOSTLY WERE ON THE DOLE BUT R NOW FORCED TO WORK AS TRAFFIC WARDENS THATS WHY THEY ALL LOOK LIKE CHAVS COS THEY CAN NOT GET ANY OTHER JOBS
On 23 Feb 2009 at 8:39pm Furness wrote:
"Demon" go back to hell or wherever you crawled out of. For the record, they are not "traffic wardens" they are called Civil Enforcement Officers (CEOS) DO YOUR RESEARCH. And the majority of them can get other jobs if they so wish but do not choose to, why should they? Parking enforcement is needed and they enjoy it, regardless of the ridiculous lies that they "hide" to "catch" people out or that they work on commission (what a stupid rumour) At least they have a job and get up in the morning to do it rather then lazing around. Can you say the same? I highly doubt it. And no I am not a CEO just a caring member of the community who supports the parking scheme all the way and parks legally (not hard to do).
On 23 Feb 2009 at 9:03pm The Tooth Fairy wrote:
That's right furness, after they finished their masters degrees they all thought 'traffic wardens are on 7 quid an hour, I'll give that a go' They're all tatooed numptys, just like you.
On 23 Feb 2009 at 9:31pm Furness wrote:
I never said they had degrees, try not to put words in people's mouths its a bad habit. And most of them do not have tattoos nor are "numptys" LOL. I do not have a tattoo nor would I ever wish to have one.
On 23 Feb 2009 at 10:02pm Tesco Lover wrote:
How do you know they don't have tatoos? And how can you say you are a caring member of the community and support the parking scheme? Isn't that an oxymoron?
On 24 Feb 2009 at 5:03pm Furness wrote:
errmm...because i have got eyes and know most of them. And yes I am a caring member of the community and yes I do support the much-needed parking scheme. It is very possible to do both. Hardly rocket science.