On 13 Jul 2017 at 2:07pm Sad wrote:
I'm sorry but the world has gone mad. What next ? Species neutral? I despair I really do
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On 13 Jul 2017 at 2:28pm Pedro wrote:
Rather than going down a "what next" path of endless hypotheticals and making yourself anxious over what your mind is concluding/exaggerating....just try to decide how will a train announcement of "hello everyone" rather than "ladies and gentleman" will impact your life? I'm sure people on mass are not going to start identifying themselves as poodles or as toasters, and its just aimed at people who do have some gender confusion which is a small minority and thats ok. Its not some "slippery slope" so lets not lose our heads over it.
Is it necessary? Probably not, but there is no harm in just wording things in a more inclusive way as I don't personally need to be reminded I am a gentleman (although some may argue I'm certainly not one of these).
On 13 Jul 2017 at 2:57pm The masses wrote:
But you embody everything that it wrong with it..so we will take zero notice of your opinion
On 13 Jul 2017 at 3:22pm Pedro wrote:
@ the masses, explain your personal attack that I "embody" everything that is wrong with it? Because I happen to be liberal and unfussed by a slight alteration in language for a small minority, that has NO impact on the majority?
On 13 Jul 2017 at 3:31pm Proud to be nomal wrote:
"Ladies and Gentlemen, Homosexuals, Lesbians, Transvestites, Transsexuals, Liberal Democrats, Genderless persons- the next train will be to... Oh, bu**er, it's already left!"
On 13 Jul 2017 at 3:47pm Sorry.. wrote:
...but can someone enlighten me as to who it is that is being excluded by the use of the term 'ladies and gentlemen'?
On 13 Jul 2017 at 3:57pm Pedro wrote:
"Hello Everyone" is shorter than "Ladies and Gentlemen" - its got one less syllable and uses fewer letters, so no one is going to miss any trains. Its a win-win for everyone.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 4:15pm @Pedro wrote:
"a slight alteration in language "
Are you being serious, is that your assessment of what being gender neutral means?
"that has NO impact on the majority"
Without wishing to nit pick, gender neutral toilets have no impact on the majority?
On 13 Jul 2017 at 4:20pm Earl of Lewess wrote:
It's daft. 'Ladies and gentlemen' is just a traditional form of address that now includes everyone, not a greeting that deliberately excludes children and trans people. The country really is going to the dogs.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 4:40pm Bonkers wrote:
Where will it end? Yes, the minority have to be respected, but the majority have to pander to them these days.
And while I think of it, there is a regular ladies only swim session at the Lewes Leisure Centre. Why isn't there a mens only session, or a gays only?
On 13 Jul 2017 at 4:55pm Pedro wrote:
They've made a slight alteration to a tannoy announcement...
What do you wish to say on gender neutral toilets then? It seems to be on your mind.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 5:07pm Jimmy Saveloy wrote:
How's about that then, Guys+Gals.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 5:25pm Plebian wrote:
I am old enough to remember when " tranny" meant a little portable radio. I didnt have a tv for a long time but now I do I have noticed there are lots of stories that try to normalise transgender etc. Its obviously a big deal to the powers that be. I just find it confusing to be honest.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 5:33pm Female or male wrote:
Very very few people are born with pjysical gender issues. Most of us are either xx or xy. Simple. It is pandering to people with mental health problems.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 5:45pm Sickle wrote:
They could change the broadcast to: "ladies, gentlemen and twunts" the latter category referring to those that want change for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 5:57pm Landporter wrote:
Let's all get offended on behalf of some weirdo who can't make their mind what gender they want to be...if any.
This country is going down the crapper pretty damn fast.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 6:15pm Pedro wrote:
@ Landporter, you seem offended. Just enjoy the warm weather and stop letting the phrase "hello everyone" (uttered infrequently, many miles away) ruin your day.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 6:16pm insider wrote:
after a few beers and a few lines I wonder myself ??? chic a bell chic a bell wowwow
On 13 Jul 2017 at 6:22pm @pedro wrote:
They haven't made a slight amendment to the tannoy announcement, they've set a precident that gender labels can be offensive to someone that associates with neither. If you're wondering how that's linked to toilets, same topic and the same rules apply.
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On 13 Jul 2017 at 6:55pm Pedro wrote:
Unisex bogs in schools? And? What do you fear? Let's try to rationalise your fears on this forum, so tell us all why this is a big deal?
On 13 Jul 2017 at 7:24pm Billy wrote:
True story - my wife tried washing her hands in a gents urinal once. That was in "mixed" toilet in France.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 7:55pm Frostyknickers wrote:
I always assumed P@@@o was a bit 'confused' when it came to gender issues.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 8:03pm Clifford wrote:
What a wonderful exchange. It's so easy to provoke the small town 'know nothing' mentality.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 8:05pm Bishop of Bath n Wells wrote:
P#dro will do anything to anything....vegetable, animal or mineral
On 13 Jul 2017 at 8:20pm Stonemam wrote:
soddam and gonnorah thats what is LET THAT SINK IN WEIRDOS
On 13 Jul 2017 at 8:39pm Human/You man? wrote:
Humans, get on the train now, oh sorry, that description of you all on the platform contains the the word man, People get ready the train to Skaville is coming, get on board.
On 13 Jul 2017 at 9:19pm Billy wrote:
Actress - Gone
Cabin Boy - Gone
Chambermaid - Gone
Clergyman - Gone
Doorman - Gone
Fall Guy - Gone
Fireman - Gone
Girl Friday - Gone
On 13 Jul 2017 at 10:50pm Bot wrote:
Just wait till the sexbots become affordable. Then it really hits the fan. We are reaching the Caligularity earlier than expected. Weimar 2.0 here we come.
On 14 Jul 2017 at 1:12am Sussex Dim wrote:
But its change, and many of us fear change.
Many more of us that don’t fear it, resent the rigidly prescribed sexualities and genders we grew up with being questioned, let alone revised wholesale. Why should we have to accept there’s a wider world out there than our conveniently limited vocabulary accommodates? It would be far easier if people that fall outside traditional gender pronouns just put up with being not recognised and differentiated like the most of us expect to be. Just because there are many cultures around the world that do, and always have, recognised a fluid gender scale, it doesn’t mean we have to.
The world really is going to hell and, frankly, it all started with the do-gooders’ daft idea of letting people who aren’t landed gentry being allowed to vote. Liberal progress and expanding inclusion is only worth having until it means we’re included in ‘the conversation’, and as soon as we are, we pull up the drawbridge and do our best to keep the outsider wierdos out.
On 14 Jul 2017 at 6:38am Robinson Crusoe wrote:
Man Friday's gone too. First place I looked was in the woodpile, but nowhere to be seen.
On 14 Jul 2017 at 6:40am Boris wrote:
|I remember when Eddy Izzard was funny, now he is just a wierdo.
We've got to start taking this country back from the Liberal lunacy that seems to be taking over.
On 14 Jul 2017 at 6:54am The people wrote:
All announcements now start with "the people".......unbiased and neutral in all regards. We just want sanity and a future for our planet and without "the people" we are doomed.......
On 14 Jul 2017 at 7:33am Winston wrote:
"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy."
It is chilling to think that the degree of mind control currently being imposed on the Great British public is already greater than that which Orwell warned us of in 1984. We are not just being told that 2 + 2 = 5. These numbers are mere abstract concepts. We are being told that female is male, that mother is father, that Bruce Jenner is a brave and beautiful woman, and we are expected to believe it. And, when it is repeated often enough, many of us will believe it. Just how much further down this twisted rabbit hole can we be taken before we revolt or go insane.
On 14 Jul 2017 at 8:18am The Old Mayor wrote:
Everyone should read, or even re-read George Orwell's "1984". It's beginning to happen. "People won't notice, because they are too busy looking at their screens"
On 14 Jul 2017 at 8:42am The Killers wrote:
"Are we human or are we dancer?
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On 14 Jul 2017 at 10:13am Pedro wrote:
You know people are paranoid if they start bringing Orwell's "1984" into the conversation, about a small minor change for the purpose of inclusion for the LGBT community (a previously highly persecuted group). Besides, the real year 1984 was nothing like Orwells "1984", and nor is it anything like 2017....so perhaps its not as prophetic as some claim. Its more for pseudo-intellectuals to use on forums in a painfully desperate bid to sound smart.
On 14 Jul 2017 at 10:14am Pedro wrote:
I preferred Nineteen Hundred and eighty Five, the song, by Macca and Wings.