On 8 Apr 2012 at 10:15pm PoorPasties wrote:
Having recently acquired a small, well-behaved dog, could the Lewes Forum make suggestions of dog-friendly establishments? ie: shops and tearooms? Have discovered most pubs are fantastically welcoming - especially The Snowdrop. Most chain shops are a no-no, but how about independent shops? Ta.
On 8 Apr 2012 at 11:19pm local wrote:
Try em and see. Bit of a big ask for people on here to list their experience of every shop in town that might be OK with your pooch coming in, without any idea of what shops you go in! Fact is - in many cases - they'll want to see the dog before deciding. Small and well-behaved to some is large, boisterous, slobbery and smelly to others.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 7:32am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Sussex Stationers, Bakers and St Anne's pharmacy all let dogs in. Bill's doesn't.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 7:32am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Sussex Stationers, Bakers and St Anne's pharmacy all let dogs in. Bill's doesn't.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 7:38am Clifford wrote:
Yet another reason to use St Anne's pharmacy - we've been going there because we just couldn't stand Boots' incompetence any longer. It lives up to all the compliments people have paid it on Lewes Forum.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 9:53am padster wrote:
Note the Dorset does not let doggies inside, 
On 9 Apr 2012 at 10:17am Southover Queen wrote:
Aren't there also statutory restrictions about animals in food shops? That might explain why Bill's doesn't let them in, since it sells food as well as serving it.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 12:27pm padster wrote:
nearly every pub that lets dogs in has food being served and there is no problem? I wonder what the rule is ? I could not imagine taking my dog into the curry house but happy to take into the pub (snowdrop, lewes arms, brewers etc)
On 9 Apr 2012 at 12:39pm Dog Walker wrote:
All the Lewes pubs (to the best of my knowledge) allow dogs in - even the Dorset appears to have relaxed it's unpopular dog ban. Most of the local shops allow dogs in too (Bakers the Chemist, Bright Ideas, Mojo) and even braches of some chains allow dogs in (Post Office, WH Smith, Clarks, Argos).
Lewes is a tolerant town and this tolerance is extended to our canine friends. It will be a sad day when this attitude is diluted by the ever-increasing amount of non-local people (with their unhelpful and non-local ideas) moving to this town.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 2:10pm Lord Landport wrote:
Im local, a dog owner and Lewes born and bred and hate dogs in shops, pubs and any other establishment.
I get fed up with going into shops or pubs and getting slobbered on by dogs or having them constantly sniff my balls.
About time people started to realise that dogs are way down the ecological line and therefore should be treated as such. The sad people who substitute dogs for kids really need a wake up call.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 2:17pm The Twister wrote:
Dogs are not banned from food premises, that is an urban myth ( presumably encouraged by people who dislike dogs).
For the definitive answer see this link
Check it out here »
On 9 Apr 2012 at 2:22pm The Twister wrote:
Oh yes....Lord Landport "dogs are way down the ecological line". What does that mean? Methinks you need to refer to a dictionary before you next try to speak English.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 2:25pm Lord Landport wrote:
Says the person who types "methinks" Bwahahahahahaha
On 9 Apr 2012 at 2:36pm padster wrote:
Dog walker sounds like you gotta a bigger bone to pick than places that are dog friendly. it does not help you or anyone else to go on about "outsiders" as if they are all bad and everyone born and bred in lewes is good.
Intrestingly where do you draw the line, people from Ringmer? outsiders or in the circle of trust?
What would lewes become if all migration stopped? What about dogs from london , whats your view on them ?
PS i have never seen a dog in the Dorset, and my puppy was refused , we dont go there very often now for that very reason. Shame nice pub.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 3:21pm Southover Queen wrote:
First of all, I was merely asking a question about the regulations covering dogs in food premises. The letter Twister links to is interesting, and it puts the onus on the premises operator to maintain hygienic premises so that clears up that doubt in my mind.
Personally, as a customer, I would very much prefer not to see dogs in a butchers, and presumably since most butchers don't allow dogs on their premises, butchers feel the same way. (I don't dislike dogs by the way, but equally I'd strongly prefer to buy meat which has not been subject to close investigation by one of our canine friends). I'd have thought most pubs would welcome well behaved dogs but I can see why somewhere like Bills, which is busy and crowded with nowhere for dogs to sit or lie safely, would prefer not.
Dog walker, I agree with padster: what an absurd statement. Please, leave off the "them and us" subtext.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 5:39pm Heaver jeavers wrote:
@ Lord .Landporter
Where exactly at the residents of Landport on your 'ecological line'?
(I assume you really meant 'evolutionary scale' but perhaps couldn't spell it.)
On 9 Apr 2012 at 5:39pm Heaver jeavers wrote:
@ Lord .Landporter
Where exactly at the residents of Landport on your 'ecological line'?
(I assume you really meant 'evolutionary scale' but perhaps couldn't spell it.)
On 9 Apr 2012 at 6:32pm Sucking Eggs wrote:
Southover Queer and Padster,
I don't think Dog Walker was having a pop at you, he/she made a fair comment about non-local people offering advice that is unhelpful and unnecessary.
On 9 Apr 2012 at 7:29pm Local wrote:
How a dog on a lead can get sniffing-access to meat which is either in a chilled display unit, on the block at the back of the shop, or hanging from the rails is totally beyond me! Have you looked at a butcher's sop floor recently? Sawdust, bloody bits and other dirt hardly take the high-ground over your average dog, I would say!
On 10 Apr 2012 at 9:56am PoorPasties wrote:
DogWalker: I thought that the massive: NO DOGS sign carved on the door to the Post Office meant just what it said. Assumed general postie hatred of canines... So, is it worth ignoring? It would be very handy if they are more relaxed as I very often need to go in. Can't understand why no dogs: industrial floor coverings, people behind glass screens, not the cleanest of places.... Generally, if a business has a sign outside saying NO DOGS, I tend to take note, if no sign then I figure it's worth a try.
I'm finding that most of the independent shops are OK, even the gift item type shops with lots of delicate expensive things at dog-level!
Have never tried Argos, as they do have a NO DOGS sign in the window.
On 10 Apr 2012 at 12:42pm Dog Walker wrote:
PoorPasties,
Believe you me, dogs are allowed into the Post Office and Argos. The large sign on the Post Office door that you refer to is an old brass worn down sign and the policy is not enforced.
Sucking Eggs,
Thanks for reading the post correctly and not jumping to paranois conclusions
Lord Landport,
I'd rather have a clean well behaved dog on a supermarket floor, than a dirty diapered screaming infant handling produce and sitting on the packing area.
Southover Queen,
I suggest Prozac and CBT!
On 10 Apr 2012 at 12:58pm Old Cynic wrote:
Dog walker quite agree - most dogs are better behaved and well adjusted than some peoples children!
On 10 Apr 2012 at 4:06pm Feline wrote:
My experience is that nuisance children and dogs tend to come from same families! Poor parental training and supervision with both!
On 10 Apr 2012 at 4:42pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Some years ago, a publican told me that the guidance from the public health bods is that dogs should be prohibited from places serving food, but it is at the discretion of the district council whether it insists on enforcing this. I have no idea if this is true, but it would explain why there are wide areas (western lake district, NE Somerset) where it's almost impossible to find a dog-friendly pub.
Lord L, ime dogs like to smell things that smell offensive to the human olfactory system; hence their love of rolling in fox crap and long-dead fish. If you find dogs are always smelling your balls, paying a little more attention to your personal hygiene in that area may pay dividends.
On 10 Apr 2012 at 7:42pm padster wrote:
Hang on , I am not jumping to conclusions or being paranoid?
Dog Walker said
"Lewes is a tolerant town and this tolerance is extended to our canine friends. It will be a sad day when this attitude is diluted by the ever-increasing amount of non-local people (with their unhelpful and non-local ideas) moving to this town."
The above statement is clearly nonsense. I imagine there are an abundant views on all sorts of things, from all sorts of people, to make a "them and us" line in the sand will serve no better understanding other than often perceived bitterness to those seen as non local, this is more worthy of the charge of paranoia.
Sucking eggs , surely we can all decide what is unhelpful advice or unnecessary but why do you charge that to non local people?
Lewes is a tolerant town? Is it really? I have consulted with my dog, she looked thoughtful on the issue, she then drank some water and then settled into her bed, I await her response , it may be some time. She is local so should be sound advice.
SQ you may want to ask dog walker whether her consultant grade psychiatric advice is based on 7 years in medical school as a minimum or her local status which renders it (the advice re SSRI antidepressants or cognitive behaviour therapy) as sound and you should follow it immediately
On 10 Apr 2012 at 10:51pm Bling Mare wrote:
This is an amusing thread and it is nice to see that Paul Newman is not being slagged off for a change. But it does seem as if some people are being overly sensitive about their (dare I say it?) DFL status.
On 10 Apr 2012 at 11:07pm Southover Queen wrote:
Thank you for your concern padster. Of course I did follow it and have been suppressing a breakdown all the way back from my union meeting. Luckily the treatment seems to have been successful and I'm cured.
Bling Mare: I don't know if you're a regular, but it just gets a bit tedious that every ill of Lewes society is ascribed to "furriners" from London. It's lazy too, since it absolves the accuser of actually considering some sensible reason for the behaviour s/he doesn't like.
Paul's fine: he likes a bit of a scrap which is why he posts stuff to wind us dangerous old lefties up.
On 10 Apr 2012 at 11:18pm Bling Mare wrote:
SQ - I have been posting on here for a while now. I am a foreigner too (my name may give it away), but I accept the parochial banter. Have you considered that the DFL comments might be posted to wind you (and others) up?
Someone has previously posted that the term DFL describes an attitude, and it is not related to where you are from. So please stop being so sensitive :-)
On 10 Apr 2012 at 11:49pm Southover Queen wrote:
Sometimes they are, but equally quite often they're not. I don't like viciousness (it sometimes is, very) and I don't like prejudice.
Try substituting "DFL" for "blacks" or "gypsies" (or any other minority you care to think of) and see if it still seems like a bit of banter. Dog walker's statement "It will be a sad day when this attitude is diluted by the ever-increasing amount of non-local people (with their unhelpful and non-local ideas) moving to this town." isn't a bit of banter, it's just prejudiced. I'm not being sensitive and actually I was not the first to pick up Dog Walker on it.
You may think DFL describes an attitude. Others quite clearly do not, and you can't just decide that just because you think one way everyone else must follow suit. Certainly visitors to this forum who post innocent questions about moving to Lewes, or which school will suit their child best, can't be expected to know that the people queuing up to insult them are just indulging in "a bit of banter". It's often really nasty.
On 11 Apr 2012 at 2:39am expat two wrote:
SQ, I usually chime with your opinions but I really hate this "try substituting "DFL" for "blacks" or "gypsies" thing.
They're not talking about Blacks or Gypsies, they're talking about DFLs. DFLs aren't a persecuted minority.
We can all be accused of bigotry if what we say is substituted by things a bigot says.
One might be narrow minded and stupidly prejudice to hate DFLs but DFLs, of any hue, are DFLs by their own volition and like Christians, Muslims, Fat people and Arsenal fans, they should be defending their own lifestyle choices.
I freely admit I'm prejudiced against white supremacists, I think they're a real menace to society but I'm not going to change that view just because you substitute 'white supremacists' with 'homosexuals' and think its the same thing.
BTW - I was born in SW19
On 11 Apr 2012 at 9:16pm padster wrote:
SW19!!!! practically the countryside!!
I am SW11......
On 11 Apr 2012 at 10:03pm expat two wrote:
Oh, you're a Townie then.
On 11 Apr 2012 at 10:04pm bloke wrote:
Padster I'm an SW11 native too. Just of Battersea Park Road.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 8:08pm padster wrote:
latchmere behind the baths, Burns road
best borough in london by far, i refuse to allow Battersea to be called wandsworth.
it's good to see a fellow tribe member in the lewes hood!!
On 13 Apr 2012 at 12:46am bloke wrote:
Jesus Padster I lives the first 26 years of my live in Culvert Rd. What school did you go to?
On 13 Apr 2012 at 9:54pm padster wrote:
Salesian ......you?
On 14 Apr 2012 at 8:28am Dan wrote:
Get a room you two.