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On 15 Oct 2012 at 6:54pm Discusted wrote:
What is the world coming too when a lady in a wheelchair who is ill was told by a society you cant be pushed in a bonfire procesion and its because of your weight you are in it so lose weight and you can then walk in it....
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 7:28pm Non pc wrote:
Brilliant love it! What society was that? Why the f..... Would anyone in a wheelchair want to be in a procession
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 8:01pm Ben wrote:
Fantastic - dodge the rookie in a wheelchair - I can just picture it. What a great game.
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 8:52pm ???????????? wrote:
Again this is just a trouble maker causing problems for bonfire. This accusation of discrimination is no more than slanderous. No one and no society has ever said no to wheelchairs or prams/ buggys ...... !! I suggest the trouble makers think twice about lying, before they end up in court and been banned of ALL societies!!
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 9:04pm sussexbonfire wrote:
Why oh why would you want to risk yourself in a bonfire procession, especially at Lewes in a wheelchair??
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 9:13pm bonfire boy wrote:
I Think the person in question does not realise the health and safety of it all and if they cant move very well in a wheelchair it's a liability for the societies and their insurance liability if anything were to go wrong.
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 9:18pm ?????????? wrote:
Oh here we go again more slagging off, disgusted shut up and get on with your miserable lives oh you can't because you have got nothing going for you in your life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 9:52pm Potty Pirate wrote:
@ Disgusted. Not bad enough that you've been barred from one outlet for venting your spleen, here you are doing it again. Express your views in private to the Society involved, escalate to Bonco if you see fit and accept the decision.
This is doing you NO favours what-so-ever!
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 10:06pm I can spell wrote:
And they can't spell disgusted or procession! Atleast if you're gonna have a rant don't look thick bye spelin it rong!! :-p
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 10:16pm seagulls wrote:
Christ even my late father who was a bonfire boy saw sense not to take part in bonfire processions when he became wheelchair bound due to the risks to himself, his carer and others around him. Common sense really
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 10:24pm Bruciare il Papa wrote:
Personally, I think all pushchairs sould be banned from adult processions.
Does anyone remember the buggy that caught fire at East Hoathly some years back?
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 11:21pm Castle Gate wrote:
I've seen (and taken video footage) of loyal Bonfire society members who use wheelchairs, taking their proud and proper place in the processions (2007 being the occasion I remember clearly). The gentleman concerned held a sign which read something like "Recycled Porche".

The Lewes Forum is not the Lewes Bonfire Council, surely?
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On 15 Oct 2012 at 11:26pm The Original Interested wrote:
I lived in Toronto Terrace in the early 60s and seem to remember a wheelchair bound older guy...was his name Banana Bill? He used to take part in the bonfire....Just remenicsing.(Bad spelling !! ) Was he a member of the Penfold family who used to liive opposite us? May be wrong....
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 5:49am landporter wrote:
Am i allowed to take my dog in the procession ?
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 6:20am Insomniac wrote:
Depends - is he in a wheelchair?
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 8:08am school teacher wrote:
I think they should arrange to have a spelling class for all bonfire societies .
Hilarious to read has made my day already thank you
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 8:17am ????????????? wrote:
It seems that disgusted your mum has been on the said society and said that she has had nothing to do with the shit stirring you have been trying to stir so keep your mouth shut and get your facts straight
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 8:52am Discusted wrote:
I love how people are so judgemental, i am not the person some people here think i am, i just heard on the grapevine that someone was refused to be pushed in the prosession and i had a rant.
The reason being was that i have seen many people pushed along in a prosession sat in a wheelchair including last year, just prosessions and not at a fire site, yes im sure there are some health and safety issues involved which must of been addressed and sorted, but my point was if people are allowed, which they have been then why the refusal especially if the person in the wheelchair just needs it for the prosession as cant do the long walking and they true bonfire people. Pushchairs and buggys have never been refused so i just think it needs to be dealt with carefully thats all and with respect. Who said anything about dogs ?
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 8:53am Pete wrote:
Two words - risk assessment - when you've done it, then you'll know if it's sensible or not won't ya.
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 9:22am Ben wrote:
This just gets better and better. Where do all these posters hide for the rest of the year? As for the wheelchair, by the time it has been armour plated and made bomb proof it would be too heavy to push. Can you get kevlar tyres? I would hate to see a blow out en route.
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 9:44am Bonfire Girl wrote:
This is a sensitive issue, but yes there were wheelchairs i saw in the processions last year, also there is film from lasts years bonfire celebrations on utube and you can clearly see wheelchair users, so im sure they must of been risk assessed to be allowed. It must be down to individual cases and whether perhaps they can walk but just need the wheelchair for longer walks but they know that a wheelchair can not be taken down to a fire site as i have not seen them there. All societies must look at this carefully and as Pete says, but it would be discriminating to refuse if all risks had not been carefully checked and accounted for before refusing.
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 9:51am Peter Pan wrote:
T.O.I I think you are talking about Banana Bill Penfold who used to have a second hand ( junk ) shop in Landsdown place, and who used to read Bonfire Prayers on site for Southover during the 50's and 60' Can anybody confirm ??
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 11:54am unhapy wrote:
all the ppl in the socitiey r jus narsty nd nun of my family av been made 2 feel welcum we just wanted to be members nd av gd time but thay av been horible nd now being horible 2 sum 1 in weelchair how narstys that ?
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 12:16pm Mr Forks wrote:
Eh?!! I feel you are a halfwit!
 
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 1:17pm unhapy wrote:
fanks mr forks glad sum1 showin suport nd it a lewes sociteiy
 
 
On 16 Oct 2012 at 1:22pm Coffee Addict wrote:
Which society are we talking about?
On another note, aren't the standards of education appalling nowadays? Unhapy, you really need to use your spell checker before posting.
Discusted, I think the dog thing was someone being funny.
I'm off to drink my double espresso, I can't bear it here anymore.
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 1:32pm Mr Forks wrote:
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 3:17pm lilbud wrote:
most of these people commenting on here are clearly the ones from the facebook page especially ????????????? you might aswell put your real name.
@pete you say about risk assessment to wheelchairs but surely buggys/pushchairs are as much if not more of a risk as a young child can not defend them self like an adult can even in a chair. nobody involved in this was banned from other societies they left for their own reasons.
this is not slanderous at all its truth and people need to know what the society is like before joining
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 3:29pm Irrelevant Steve wrote:
Does anyone know of a reliable way to get rid of honey fungus?
 
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 4:20pm John wrote:
Petrol
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 4:49pm lilbud wrote:
@coffee addict this is about borough bonfire society
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 5:36pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I think buggies and wheelchairs are both dangerous, but at least wheelchair users can weigh up the risks for themselves and make an informed choice. Kids in pushchairs can't.
Both conceal an area of road beneath them, so that no-one can see if a firework or torch head has rolled underneath. Kids in pushchairs are lower down, and closer to any flying debris caused by fireworks going off and to the noise and blast from them. They're likely to be strapped in and it would take longer to get them out if the pushchair caught fire.
I remember the burned-out buggy at East Hoathly only too well, it was a horrifying sight.
I also think they could both present a hazard if there was an emergency of some sort in the procession and people were trying to run to a place of safety.
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 5:39pm I've been @ work today!! wrote:
@lilbud ........ Don't see you using your real name???? Perhaps you should?? The main culprits are Emma & Sophie Abbott who are NOT even paid up members of the Borough but who along with Nick Tomsett, decided to still walk with the borough, insult members and NOT dress in costume or smugglers!! But WHO are fully paid up Waterloo members. When your Mother has had to apologise on your behalf to the society and is not involved in this.... And has said nothing had been said to her about no wheelchair!! You are clearly lying!!! And why worry when you are walking with Waterloo???? Personally I don't think lilbud is one of them as the spelling and grammar of their comments are perfect.....so stop causing trouble!!! @WEBBO please remove this stupid thread it is pathetic
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 6:39pm The Original Interested. wrote:
Thanks Peter Pan. Sure it was him....
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 8:07pm lilbud aka emma abbott wrote:
there you go amanda taylor using my real name!
1. i paid my membership to borough as did the rest of my family like every other member.
2.i am not now nor have i ever been a member of waterloo
3. everything i have said on here and on boroughs facebook page is truth and you know it, i will not be made out to be a liar to make your pathethetic excuse for a bonfire society look good.
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 9:35pm Ron wrote:
Does anyone know the total membership of all the Bonfire Societies in Lewes?
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 9:37pm Manda wrote:
LOL you think ive had time to come on here today!! Some of us are doing bonfire stuff, and working full time to pay my taxes so you can play full time mummy!!! just cos ive had to block you on facebook cos i was sick of your abusive messages all night and day, you have to come on here to rant! GET A LIFE and go back to commercial! WHY you would want to leave a society cos your dad died beats me? Surely if your dad was in commercial you would stay with them, to keep his good name and nature up?! unless you all had to leave for some reason?????
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On 16 Oct 2012 at 9:38pm cbs wrote:
To peter pan just to confirm william penfold aka banana bill was the archbishop for the cliffe. (not southover) He was also the first chairman of the cliffe after the second world war. And one of the founder members of the waterloo in the late 1950s. I can also confirm in his later life he did attend lewes bonfire night in a wheelchair carrying his no popery banner . lest we forget


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