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Chemtrails & Geo Engineering

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On 23 Apr 2012 at 9:36pm Jason wrote:
Okay so......
I was wondering if any Lewes residents have heard of Chemtrails and the Geo Engineering of our skies and weather.
I came across the issue about 2 months ago, and just shrugged it off as some nutter in the street. Then a friend of mine pointed out to me the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail right above my head. Sure enough there where 3 planes in the sky one at a high altitude with a short trail behind it, and two more panes maybe a 1000 ft below at the same level. One had no trail at all and the other had a Huge thick white trail stretching the entire horizon.
I then did some research online on this.
There are so many theories on what it is they are spraying, but the subject appeared to be alive and kicking all over the world. Clearly something is being sprayed over our heads. and they are NOT contrails. This apparently started in the early 90s. As many people over 50 do not remember their skie being full of these dirty white line that spreads out into this dirty foggy cloud. One Theory that stood out more than others was GEO ENGINEERING. The engineering of our weather.
So...
Over the last two months I have watched the skies very closely and it is very apparent to me that this is an issue that is extremely serious and effects everybody.
Over the last 4 weeks i have noted that these BIG Chemtrail spray days only appear on sundays, at least in my area anyway. I have witnessed the spraying being turned on and off and on again, huge crosses sprayed in the sky, clearly turning the spray non and off. It does not add up to me.
Your Thoughts Please....
 
 
On 23 Apr 2012 at 9:41pm JASON wrote:
SORRY MY SPELLING IS ATROCIOUS!
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On 23 Apr 2012 at 10:12pm Mark Skid wrote:
Have you spoken to your GP about this?
 
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On 23 Apr 2012 at 11:00pm IMEYOU wrote:
"Mark Skid" LOL . . "Jason" I got some special tablets at home !
 
 
On 24 Apr 2012 at 7:46am Michael wrote:
Jason, I am with you on this. Have you done a comparison of your observations with the rainfall radar images produced by the Met Office. There have been many days in the past couple of years where rain can be seen heading towards the Sussex / kent area only for the rain to suddenly skirt to the north and south of both counties before continuing across the North Sea. It is as if an artifial umbrella has been created.
 
 
On 24 Apr 2012 at 7:54am Clifford wrote:
'Okay so...' If you start a post like that Jason people know immediately they can safely disregard what comes next.
 
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On 24 Apr 2012 at 8:27am Pete wrote:
Jason, I would like some of what you've been eating, obviously a happy man if a bit boggled !
But, these things have happened before, but I doubt if we "play around" with the weather these days - at our peril!! Maybe it was a stunt plane practising vapour trails ?
 
 
On 24 Apr 2012 at 9:26am Cliffite wrote:
Oh dear, here we go again, more conspiracy theory nonsense. Have you been drinking in The Gardeners Arms again? Don't believe everything you read on the internet, it's wide open for nut jobs.
If it is weather control or populace poisoning or whatever the latest theory about it is, it's certainly not working!
 
 
On 24 Apr 2012 at 1:33pm JASON wrote:
Thank you Michael !!! As for the rest, I expected nothing less from the Closed Minded Lewesians. Maybe you should ask your MP Mr Baker what he thinks, I think you will be surprised! Over and Out!
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On 24 Apr 2012 at 1:45pm Conrad Spiracy wrote:
But if this stuff is so bad for everyone, it affects every person under the area sprayed, unless they start wearing breathing apparatus. This includes the pilots' families, MPs, MOD staff on the ground, Met Office staff, owners of large country estates who own the the spraying companies. In fact anyone you can think of involved in the conspiracy. So we're all doomed.
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On 24 Apr 2012 at 2:20pm voice of reason wrote:
Porton Down indulged in some nifty bacterial spraying.
It took plane spotters to inadvertently reveal UK's involvement in rendition in the
face of wholesale denial.
So easy to mock: - conspiracy theory mocking is a strong aid to the forces of darkness....
sometimes the unthinkable is true; history is full of examples and our masters rely
on our collective short memory.

 
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On 24 Apr 2012 at 3:01pm Cliffite wrote:
Oh I'm certainly more open minded than most Lewesians but I draw the line at chemtrails and government releasing Tamiflu as a way to sterilise aspects of the populace (another pub favourite)
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On 24 Apr 2012 at 4:11pm bastian wrote:
it's called" cloud seeding" if it's what I think you are talking about but I doubt they would bother here. It's the kind of thing they used to do to get rain to fall before the big parades in Russia so it wouldn't rain on the parade.I don't think they spray anything..just fly through clouds in order to make them condense and fall as rain.
 
 
On 24 Apr 2012 at 4:12pm Merlin Milner wrote:
I think that this link may help debunk the conspiracy.

Check it out here »
 
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On 24 Apr 2012 at 4:37pm Cliffite wrote:
Great read Merlin, thanks for that. But that's the trouble with people who believe conspiracy stories/ theories, as soon as you say that they are just that, you then get accused of being part of the conspiracy. But before anyone else does, OMG! Chemsmoke! #tinfoilhat
 
 
On 24 Apr 2012 at 4:58pm Clifford wrote:
voice of reason wrote: '... sometimes the unthinkable is true; history is full of examples...'

Will you give us some of the examples where the conspiracy theory turned out to be true? I'm sure they are all on the tip of your tongue.
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On 24 Apr 2012 at 10:31pm Jenn wrote:
My uncle was involved in this a few years back, he told me when he had had a few too many one night that there is the ministry of agriculture has a 'secret unit' that does this spraying, Sometimes they do it for special occasions, jubilees etc to reduce the possibility of rain, and he said they had also developed a hormone spray that triggered the doubt receptors in the brain in people who would normally score lower in an open minded test. He said this was a social engineering thing to keep the secrets of the ruling elite, I'm still not sure I know what he was on about though.
 
 
On 25 Apr 2012 at 12:17am Lewes Skeptic wrote:
Great link Merlin.

Also check out this page from RationalWiki and the links at the bottom esp contrailscience.com.

Check it out here »
 
 
On 25 Apr 2012 at 11:00am Cliffite wrote:
Why does it normally always rain on Bank Holidays then? Will keep an eye out on the jubilee this year, if it's sunny, then it *must* be true
 
 
On 25 Apr 2012 at 12:34pm You are all barking wrote:
The very top of Lewes Skeptic's link, when clicked says...
"Chemtrails are an alleged conspiracy by which cranks claim that aircraft contrails are a form of chemical dispersal through which the government is attempting to poison people from above. This is a relatively recent conspiracy theory, having reached its peak in the 1990s, but is still going strong despite the evidence for the conspiracy being laughably lacking"
Couldn't have put it better myself
 
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On 26 Apr 2012 at 1:51am Mickey Mushrooms wrote:
I`m sure the government is spreading conspiracy theories in order to control our minds.
 
 
On 26 Apr 2012 at 4:14pm JASON wrote:
Good to see the debate continued....... The fact is they ARE spraying. What they are spraying is still guess work! You guys in Lewes where hit hard buy this stuff on Sunday. I documented my journey from London to Lewes and the footage is on my YouTube Channel. I just want to make people aware, that is all. I hope we can all look up every day and you can all make up your own minds. Thank You for your time.

Watch the video »
 
 
On 26 Apr 2012 at 4:16pm JASON wrote:
One more thing, when I arrived n Lewes on Sunday the sky had turned really hazy and foggy from all the trails. No more than 2 hours later the sky turned black and it rained. I am not saying they made it rain, but am saying what goes up must come down.
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On 26 Apr 2012 at 6:30pm Southover Queen wrote:
Jason, I'd love to watch your video, but unfortunately the link isn't working.
 
 
On 26 Apr 2012 at 7:19pm JASON wrote:
If you search jasonlreeve in youtube, you will find my channel. :-)
 
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On 27 Apr 2012 at 6:57am Doubter wrote:
Are you the Jason Reeve in his 20s who lives in Haywards Heath with his parents?
 
 
On 27 Apr 2012 at 4:14pm JASON wrote:
No! I live in Hertfordshire now, and a resident of Lewes for 16yrs before moving last year. I am in my 20s though :-)
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On 28 Apr 2012 at 11:55am Lewes Skeptic wrote:
Jason
I thought this might be a wind up but it appears you are serious about this. I looked at your video. I see normal contrails in most of the shots and a few with normal cloud formations. You say the last shot shows contrails stretching right across the Downs. I see clouds. I suggest you take a look at this page about different cloud formations. Please take time to think rationally about this subject. Please read the page I linked to earlier.

Check it out here »
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 1:55am Lewes Skeptic wrote:
Jason I just noticed that you have a video about the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident on your YouTube channel. Back in July 2011 Lewes Skeptics hosted a talk by Ian Ridpath who thoroughly investigates this incident and has completely debunked the suggestion that it involved aliens. See his website at www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htm and see the video linked below.

Watch the video »
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 3:49am JASON wrote:
HAHAHAHA, Thanks! Nothing will change my mind!
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 3:50am JASON wrote:
You gotta love SKEPTICS! :-)
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 3:55am JASON wrote:
Maybe you missed this video I shot outside my house. All the planes are leaving Chemtrails.

Watch the video »
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 12:25pm Lewes Skeptic wrote:
"HAHAHAHA, Thanks! Nothing will change my mind!"
Why not? Are you saying that you're not open to the possibility of evidence that could contradict things that you currently believe to be true? Didn't you earlier refer to "Closed Minded Lewesians". Does your definition of closed mindedness include someone who might say "Nothing will change my mind!"?
I just watched your video. I see aircraft leaving contrails. This is evidence of planes leaving contrails. What has so convinced you that they are chemtrails that nothing will change your mind? Why is it that you cannot be mistaken? There's pictures and video and even contemporary painting of contrails from aircraft from World War 2. Do you think they were spraying chemicals then?

Check it out here »
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 2:17pm JASON wrote:
Look, I am open to the possibility that I may be wrong on the Chemtrails. But having watched these things spray the sky with my own eyes, I find it difficult to believe, After all, why would a contrail turn itself on and off again drawing huge Crosses in the sky? Have a look in this video and tell me honestly that they are not spraying areosols in the sky, You can cearly see the difference between the contrails and chemtrails. As for WW2, they could quite easily be testing things in the skies back then. Especially in Germany. As for Rendlesham, come on, a fire ball??? Lighthouse??? Why do all the debunkers refuse to accept testimonies of people who where actually there??? I dont have a problem with debunkers, they are mostly hated but they have there place.

Watch the video »
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 2:25pm JASON wrote:
What in The World Are They Spraying: Full Length Chemtrail Documentary USA.

Watch the video »
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 4:14pm Lewes Skeptic wrote:
"As for WW2, they could quite easily be testing things in the skies back then. Especially in Germany."
This an absurd interpretation. Why would both British fighters and German bomber aircraft carry and spray chemicals over the British countryside during the Battle of Britain when they were trying their best to shoot each other down?

This comment is enough to convince me that you are not thinking rationally.

With regards to Rendlesham. The evidence of them seeing the light flash in exactly the same rate as the lighthouse rotation rate is a clincher. People mistaking what they see as something else is a well-known phenomenon especially with UFOs where for example where there are thousands of examples of people mistaking the planet Venus for something else. This happened just the other week - see link.

Check it out here »
 
 
On 29 Apr 2012 at 5:54pm JASON wrote:
I have my beliefs and you have yours! That is fine, I can except that. What I think is entirely my choice. When I come up against people like yourself, I feel it better to accept their opinion as there own, and leave it be. Otherwise we will be hear for ever debating. As with everything in this world, time will tell!


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