On 8 Dec 2008 at 3:58pm fireball wrote:
i see some so call climate activiste got onto the taxiway at standsted airport
today . all for a good demo but some of this lot are two faced . arrived in car
ect.
On 8 Dec 2008 at 4:20pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
What would you prefer they did Fireball, dropped in by helicopter?
On 8 Dec 2008 at 4:47pm fireball wrote:
well lewes laugher . The point is thay are using fuil to get there .If thay feel that strongly about the climate thay sould start by example
On 8 Dec 2008 at 4:47pm fireball wrote:
well lewes laugher . The point is thay are using fuil to get there .If thay feel that strongly about the climate thay sould start by example
On 8 Dec 2008 at 4:52pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
I now what you mean Fireball, but it's proportionality really isn't it? That said, I'd be more impressed if they could say they all went by train from Liverpool Street.
On 8 Dec 2008 at 5:20pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Lewes needs a major airport.
Think of all the cars... think of all those nice NCP people.
PhilX
On 8 Dec 2008 at 6:49pm SHS wrote:
The floodplain is ideal for a runway and we would save all those SSSI management costs. Think of the benefit to global warming by not having to drive to Stansted.
On 8 Dec 2008 at 7:07pm I dont live in lewes anymore wrote:
Not haing to drive to Stansted would reduce your carbon footprint for sure.
Bills could do the catering side of things... mind you he might have to invest in a few more chairs to go out in the road.
PhilX
On 8 Dec 2008 at 7:28pm Earl of Lewes wrote:
If you're planning on staging a demo like this, I think stealth is the key. The sudden arrival of umpteen eco-warriors at Stansted train station might arouse people's suspicions.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 12:29am Duduk wrote:
Is Dirk Campbell at Stanstead? If he is I am sure that we'll all hear about his wrongful arrest when he returns to Lewes
On 9 Dec 2008 at 12:29am Duduk wrote:
Is Dirk Campbell at Stanstead? If he is I am sure that we'll all hear about his wrongful arrest when he returns to Lewes
On 9 Dec 2008 at 1:18pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
You're right Earl of Lewes. Tactics were never my strong point.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 3:03pm not from around here wrote:
I think this type of action by Plane Stupid realy just shows how out-of-touch they are with the general public. Did they REALLY think they would advance their cause by irritating and inconveniencing ordinary people? It's interesting that they say they 'resorted' to this as they had no luck through conventional democratic channels. Get the message Plane Stoopid! Most of us like flying - If I was on one of the delayed flights I would have been praying that they were quickly and brutally removed so that flights could resume.
Everybody I have spoken to has been extremely alienated by their actions.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 3:24pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
Not from, future generations are going to wonder at your love for flying when the water is lapping round their necks.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 4:44pm not from around here wrote:
LL you may be right - but we live in a democracy where these things are decided in a more civilised manner than illegally disrupting transport. If there is a convincing case for restricting flights then presumably most people WOULD be convinced and would be flying less?
Nobody has the right to impose their view upon others by direct action. Clearly those that were on the 50 or so delayed/cancelled flights did not agree with the protesters. Plane Stupid are entitled to their views and entitled to bring their views to the attention of others - but using legitimate means not illegal selfish ones. They have destroyed their cause with their actions which in long-run may well have the exact outcome you fear for future generations.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 4:47pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
I understand what you're saying Not from and I would probably have been bloody annoyed if I'd been sitting at Stanstead. But the historical fact is that it is usually the actions of minorities that brings about social progress, actions that annoy, disrupt and sometimes anger the majority.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 6:52pm SHS wrote:
The current labour govt is a minority that annoys, disrupts and often angers the majority but is certainly not bringing about social progress.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 7:07pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
SHS - I have to agree with that.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 8:07pm not from around here wrote:
But isn't that the point - you can vote them out. You can't vote against Plane Stupid to stop them disrupting your trip.
On 9 Dec 2008 at 11:53pm The Tooth Fairy wrote:
'proportionality' my @rse. All these 'activists' are hypocritical toe rags. Bit like the middle classes who swan around in Che Guevara/ hammer and sickle T-Shirts.