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On 24 Oct 2007 at 1:57am anon wrote:
I was in a Lewes pub tonight and went to the mens for a quick relief. Whilst there I was witness to quite blatant drug-taking by fellow drinkers. This is not the first time I have been witness to this in our town and have become quite disturbed by this.....Just wondered as to whether I was the only one who had witnessed this in recent months or is our town also becoming infested by the rot of drugs like Hastings and Brighton?
On 24 Oct 2007 at 8:12am me wrote:
clearly you have only just opened your eyes. this has been going on for years and years.
On 24 Oct 2007 at 9:24am The Super K wrote:
Definately had your head in the sand there Anon!
On 24 Oct 2007 at 9:57am Angry Local Parent wrote:
REPORT THEM - CALL THE LAW - PHOTOGRAPH THEM - my kids will eventually be old enough to use pubs when I loosen their tethers I want them to have some liberty and not have to attend their every move when they're of age too - these scum must be stamped out WE DO NOT WANT THEIR SORT in our sleepy market-town - what we want is Tigrrr Grrrls in all the pubs!!!
On 24 Oct 2007 at 11:10am MC wrote:
Just as well you didn't name the pub. That would have caused problems.
If fellow drinkers were taking drugs so openly in a pub then it looks like they were probably already under the influence of one of our more pernicious and damaging drugs.
ALP. It's obviouis that drugs cannot be stamped out. Even the police admit that current policies have doen nothing to stop the steady supply of drugs to our streets. The only chance you have is to bring your kids up to be aware of the dangers of drugs (and possibly the pleasures too) and hope that they are not stupid or reactive (rebellious?) enough to take them for anything more than infrequent or very casual use. This includes alcohol, overall the most damaging drug in use in our society by a very long way
On 24 Oct 2007 at 2:00pm lauren wrote:
I was in a certain pub in lewes last year when someone put a roofie in my soft drink, i cant remember much about it but my mates thought i had hit the spirits. thankfully one of my mates knew i did'nt drink so got abit worried about me and took me home. It took me 2 days to get over it. What is it when you cant go in a pub and you have to hold your drink all night. As for the white powder, i know of a regular busy pup in lewes were the male toilets are always the place to meet to take the stuff. Police and landlords should be well aware that this is going on and should be checking the toilets abit more regular, even if they had to pay someone to man the busy toilets and doors it would be worth it, for the safety of the customers.
On 24 Oct 2007 at 9:37pm Lewesianne wrote:
Right, Lauren. I think I know you. But not as Lauren. And it would be hilarious if you turned out to be who I think you are. The charity shop thing, the way you talk (type) etc.
I'm not going to start mentioning names but if you ask me to answer a question like "what was I doing last Thursday," then I would answer "you were with me!!"
Am I right?
If not, then I am being stupid!
On 24 Oct 2007 at 9:47pm Lauren wrote:
Hi Lewesianne, im struggling here, so much has happened since last thursday. give me another clue?
Whats the first letter of my name?
How many kids do i have?
Just remembered i was in brighton thursday afternoon.
On 24 Oct 2007 at 9:51pm Lewesianne wrote:
Hi Lauren
Answers to yuor questions....
R, 4
Am I right?
On 24 Oct 2007 at 9:55pm lauren wrote:
Hi lewesianne, sorry but only 3.
On 24 Oct 2007 at 10:11pm Lewesianne wrote:
Ahh, never mind. :-(
Still, about the drugs thing. That must have been really scary. When I was much younger, I knew people were taking drugs in the pub loos, which was shocking at the time, but your drink was never spiked. So not only do we have to contend with the worry of our children being led astray, we also have to get them to worry about their drinks.
I just don't understand why people can't just learn from other people's misfortunes and say no. That picture of that poor girl, Leah Betts on the front cover of the papers, slumped over from an overdose is enough to scare any youngster. When I was a teen, there was not as much stuff on the telly to scare us away but most tv dramas/news/media etc, openly feature drugs and yet the drug scene seems to be worse. WHY?
On 24 Oct 2007 at 10:22pm lauren wrote:
Im beginning to think with youngsters now adays it cheaper to get a hit with drugs than buying drink. Its really sad and im starting to panic abit as i have a son who is only a couple of years away from hitting the pubs, god knows what it will be like then. I cant ground him forever.....
On 24 Oct 2007 at 11:02pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
Apparently the cost for a hit of heroin is cheaper than a packet of cigarettes and the problem group is teenage girls (14 and 15 year old - not just older teens).
Why not name the pub where you witnessed this illegal activity? I would (but then I'm The Spinster!)
On 24 Oct 2007 at 11:07pm Lauren wrote:
Hi Spinster of the parish, i would but i would get into trouble. I just make sure when im out that i inform as many people as possible then atleast that way the word is spreading around.
On 24 Oct 2007 at 11:12pm Anon(Regretably) wrote:
Sorry to go Anon...I feel as though i'm amongst friends but....I had my first joint at the seats at the back of Lewes Castle when i was 17.I loved it.Loved the high,love the way of life,the people i met...But i never got into anything heavier than that(But saying that,see below...)I have friends however who smoked like i did,they got into speed,then coke....Some got into heroin.....Some were into drink,and still are...Quite a few are now dead,When i was young there were no E's.And no crack.It somehow seemed a lot simpler then....Trouble is now,there is a lot of money to be made from drugs,and there is always someone who will get you what you want.The amount of folk i know now who buy a gram of coke on a Friday night for 50....(I did it,for a short while,but didn't get into it)Parents now have good cause to worry,but a lot of us have been through the same things they are going to be facing.What can we do? Talk to them!!They may not appear to take any notice,peer pressure must still have a place in their lives,as it did ours,but be honest,how many of us could talk,with our Mum or Dad about the last good joint they smoked? My son can,and he knows what i think about drugs.He knows what i've done,i've told him.It didn't stop him,i had to sit and watch him get taken into hospital because he took too many E's one night.(When E's first came out,they were 15 each.In a short time the price dropped dramatically)All i'm saying is,you can't stop them,all you can do is talk to them,to help demystify the allure...Bollock them if you want to,they may not seem to take any notice...But it will be there in the back of their minds,believe me.
On 24 Oct 2007 at 11:19pm lauren wrote:
Hi Anon, thanks for sharing your story and for your honesty, much appreciated as you have done it and experienced your child going through it. As you say, all we can do is talk to our children calmly and hopefully they will listen.
On 24 Oct 2007 at 11:26pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
Can you give the initials of the public house or a cryptic clue - this could be a new game!
On 24 Oct 2007 at 11:32pm lauren wrote:
pachoderm's palace......
On 25 Oct 2007 at 10:22am CROSS wrote:
Well, let me tell you this I am no drug taker excpet Harveys best and old.Here is a list of pubs that I have seen drugs taken The C H, The L, The E and C, The R O, and The V. All of this was over a long time,indeed many years,but it does not stop there.
On 25 Oct 2007 at 10:33am Jimmy Carr wrote:
Your missing THE S D, J H T, The L A.
On 25 Oct 2007 at 10:23pm MC wrote:
The best advert I've seen for not taking drugs are the coffee shops in Holland (not Amsterdam). These are places where people can go and smoke dope legally. Often the buildings seem to include a lot of glass so it's easy to see the stoned people inside from the streets. They tend to look ill, wasted, unfocussed, weak and rather pasty. A pretty good anti-drug advert. It seems to work in Holland too... where drug addiction amongst Dutch nationals is minimal (this does not include immigrants and the European trash who frequent Amsterdam).
The Uk's current drug policy is patently failing... tthere are drugs all over the place and they appear to be attractive/cooly dangerous/rebellious/fun... not addictive, dangerous or unhealthy at all. And there have been drugs in the pubs/parks/clubs too for well over 30 years. This is not a new thing (I remember getting caught rolling a joint in the toilets by a publican 30 years ago......)
I'm with that policeman who recently said that drugs ought to be legalised. Only then will our youth recognise them for what they really are.
The current parallel is with smoking tobacco. Now all the smokers are forced to hang out outside the pubs to service their addiction all of a sudden they look weak and stupid (and will look stupider as the weather gets colder!). A smoker's weakness is now made more naked and looks much less impressive to impressionable youngsters now it's on public display.
On 25 Oct 2007 at 10:29pm lauren wrote:
Well said MC.
On 26 Oct 2007 at 12:19am Stranger from afar wrote:
Well, that covers pretty much all of them. Apart from The G, which is the only place I go anyway.
On 26 Oct 2007 at 12:29am zola wrote:
That's what i thought too.It wasn't mentioned was it? My favourite G spot...
On 26 Oct 2007 at 12:48am Guy Forks wrote:
I'm in love with the barmaid in the Gardeners, she's fantastic.
On 26 Oct 2007 at 12:53am Stranger from afar wrote:
Which one Guy? There are many. Or at least several. Incidentally, what are you doing up at this time of night? It is late, don't you know?
On 26 Oct 2007 at 9:25am Wildflower wrote:
I think you are deluded - it's not just the 'youth' of Lewes taking drugs or likely to be influenced by what they see going on around them - there are many people in their 30s, 40s, & 50s regularly taking Class A drugs in the pubs of Lewes - and this town like so many others throughout the country has had a serious cocaine problem for years now.
On 26 Oct 2007 at 10:27am Lewesianne wrote:
Yes Wildflower, I totally agree with you. And I wonder how many of these people's teenage kids KNOW about their parent's habits and see that it is recreational. Not a good example for the children or tomorrow is it?
On 26 Oct 2007 at 12:20pm lauren wrote:
Im certainly not deluded, and as lewesianne says if parents do it around their kids then they dont really stand a chance. My kids know that all ages do it and through drumming it into them, hoepfully they will steer clear from it....
Someone died recently in lewes from an overdose and when my eldest son saw the body being taken away, it surely put the wind up him. All i can say is my fingers are crossed for my kids.
On 26 Oct 2007 at 2:51pm lopster wrote:
MC you have put it in perspective - I was about to start smoking in a solidarity stance for civil rights - but "naked and much less impressionable" - quite right, the ban makes sense - but I wonder where our countries funding will come from (with the loss of tax revenue until all the smoking related sick are no longer taking up NHS resources) - NO I DON'T they'll screw it out of the motorist
On 26 Oct 2007 at 9:57pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
As smokers die earlier, they do not spend years leaching on the welfare state for state pensions, attendance allowance, meals on wheels, nursing and residential home fees, hip and knee replacements, coronary bypass surgery etc etc.
In fact their shortened lifespans are more economical to the country as they are generally productive (working, contributing to society, paying taxes and propping up the NHS) until a couple of weeks (maybe months) before the end.
Nicotine is a stimulant and, interestingly, Altzheimers is virtually unknown amongst smokers. So all in all, it would appear that society gets real value for money out of smokers. No wonder the government only implemented a half hearted smoking ban on July 1st
On 26 Oct 2007 at 11:42pm Lopster wrote:
giving away your ID now - hmmm an NHS connection, quite high too not just a pretty face...
On 27 Oct 2007 at 11:41am me wrote:
Being the bringer of bad news there are people who partake in some peruvian personality powder in the G A. Not as prevelannt as other pubs mentioned tho. In all fairness why you would wan't to bounce around like an over excited power ball in such a sedate pub is beyond me.
On 27 Oct 2007 at 3:24pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
Maybe not - I could just be a smart know-it-all!
On 28 Oct 2007 at 12:12am Stranger from afar wrote:
I am shocked "me". While I may describe myself as from "afar", I am actually from a rather dull town around 12 1/2 miles NW of here. I never saw any illicit drug taking in the pubs there, and have certainly never noticed it in the G A, though maybe I am just a litte naive ...
On 28 Oct 2007 at 12:31am Smiler wrote:
News Flash - People snort coke all over the planet. It's a modern reality WTF does it matter where they do it? They are likely to do more harm to themselves drinking alchohol regularly than snorting the occasional line of coke and I know of hundreds of places people drink alchohol but I won't mention them cos that's a bit dull and seeing as most of you reading this probably drink alchohol you probably don't want to hear it anyway.
On 28 Oct 2007 at 9:45am MC wrote:
Well done Smiler, spoken like a man who can already feel tomorrow's hangover coming on.

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