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brexit solution

On 6 Dec 2017 at 9:46am Newms wrote:

There is simple answer to the whole Irish conundrum and much more. The UK should stay in the customs Union and single market
It is in fact by far the most popular option in the country
It has majority support in Parliament
It has the support of business academia hi tech industry manufacturing, the young the working , our allies and friends abroad and allows us to regain significant areas of control .
We keep our ability to ameliorate the regional problem and migration issues that have sparked a protest
We keep our motor jobs
We keep the unity of the UK
We do not risk bloodshed and economic disaster in Northern and Southern Ireland
We do not push Scotland away
We keep the inward investment aimed at the single market
We keep our �60bn
We keep our position as the financial and in anyway cultural centre of Europe
We dismay Putin
We disappoint European Fascism
We disappoint Trump
We assert solidarity with our friends against terrorist and extremism
We continue to benefit from the world wide trading deals that have served us so well
We return to British compromise and eschew fractious extremism having enhanced power in Europe and around the world
The future of the country cannot be set by UKIP N Ireland ultras and few odd bods obsessed with 19th century constitutional posturing. Someone tell our MP she must express the moderate and reasonable view the vast majority of us can live with , a soft Brexit .not a UKIP disaster

On 6 Dec 2017 at 11:44am Mark wrote:

That sounds excellent Paul and welcome back. It's been very dull without you. Zulus and suchlike. Did you see Robert Peston on Sunday writing a very good column predicting that he felt that that was pretty much exactly what the outcome would be. EXCEPT that we would pay anything up to �90B to obtain what would effectively be a return to the status quo.

On 6 Dec 2017 at 12:00pm Suicidal Sally wrote:

Nooooooooooooooooooo bring back the Zulus.

On 6 Dec 2017 at 5:34pm bobobob wrote:

Isn't there a contradiction in that plan?

Staying in the customs union and single market comes with accepting the free movement of people.

Difficult to ameliorate the migration issue if we have no control over it.

On 6 Dec 2017 at 6:19pm Newms wrote:

Ther are actually more instruments than you may suppose to control migration from the EU but the high employment areas to which such young workers go did not vote for Brexit anyway.
The areas that voted heavily for Brexit have almost no inward EU migration , what they do have is post Empire immigrant communities which have always had every ppower to curtail and require more of .
Solving that problem takes money and effort and outside the EU we have less of both to spare

On 6 Dec 2017 at 7:30pm Mark wrote:

No Sally! Sit back and enjoy the insufferable arrogance of Newms. Note that he knows all sorts of important things about instruments that Bobobob doesn't have the foggiest about. Bear with it. Much more amusing than Zulus.

On 7 Dec 2017 at 2:41pm bobobob wrote:

@Newms.

If there are many instruments then why hasn't the government used them in the last 7 years to reduce migration?

Or better still, why don't they come out and explain these instruments and how we will be using them in the future to reduce migration while remaining in the EU? Brexit solved