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On 2 Jan 2009 at 4:16pm save our local wrote:
The Abergavenny Arms in rodmell ceased trading at 6.00 pm on New Years Day.
a sad day for the locals and everyone who has used it over the years.
a web site is being designed at saveourlocal.com with the aim of trying to resurrect this historic pub.
 
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On 2 Jan 2009 at 4:24pm cbs Member wrote:
if it still had the same managment that it had 4yrs ago, i'm surprised it lasted that long. manageress was a nasty person with no people skills and did a good job of trying to ruin a party we held there.
 
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On 2 Jan 2009 at 4:24pm cbs Member wrote:
if it still had the same managment that it had 4yrs ago, i'm surprised it lasted that long. manageress was a nasty person with no people skills and did a good job of trying to ruin a party we held there.
 
 
On 2 Jan 2009 at 6:16pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Very sad, I agree, but I'm not surprised either. The food and service were both diabolical imo.

I hope someone manages to make a go of it. Any chance of the village buying it and running it as a community venture? That's happened to some village pubs. Some have even managed to get lottery money to do it.
 
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On 2 Jan 2009 at 6:27pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
Sometimes it was hard to see whether it was open or not. When it was open it was a terrible unwelcoming place. I used to like imagining Virginia Woolf nipping down there for a miserable swift half.
 
 
On 2 Jan 2009 at 6:32pm Jockey wrote:
I dont think the owner wants to sell to anyone - think she has had offers but seems to be reluctant to sell for some reason - not sure what she plans for the pub? maybe support for the pub will go some way to change her mind and for her to let someone who genuinley cares for the pub and the village take over because she obviously was hell bent in destroying it!
 
 
On 2 Jan 2009 at 7:29pm Jockey wrote:
I dont think the owner wants to sell to anyone - think she has had offers but seems to be reluctant to sell for some reason - not sure what she plans for the pub? maybe support for the pub will go some way to change her mind and for her to let someone who genuinley cares for the pub and the village take over because she obviously was hell bent in destroying it!
 
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On 2 Jan 2009 at 7:41pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
Oh dear, could this be another "change of use from business to residential" application?
Years ago the pub used to do a great Sunday roast, but over recent years the food has declined and the welcome has become virtually hostile. Consequently I have not been there for several years!
 
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On 2 Jan 2009 at 9:29pm Rookie wrote:
The last time I went there it was called The Holly.
 
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On 3 Jan 2009 at 11:40am spotty botty wrote:
I have spent many happy hours at the Abergavenny and have found the staff not only welcoming but friendly. I have also had some great meals. Having read your comments it appears to me that the villagers of Rodmell have done their best to destroy what a wonderful thing they had. My best wishes go out to the landlady and her staff. Good luck
 
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On 3 Jan 2009 at 4:46pm an actual real life nice person wrote:
Are all you people actually wanting to save your village pub?? Only it seems to me you're just hell bent on launching a hate campaign on the owner! Hadve you thought that they may just be a sad victim of the forthcoming recession?? Shame on you all
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 5:14pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
Whoa - I think you will find that we are ALL actual real life incredibly nice people.
We are only stating our own findings from using the pub and it is up to you to draw your own conclusion. As I stated, I felt the food had declined and the welcome was minimal. The country was not in recession when I last went in there.
As individuals, we all feel differently about many things - no-one is forcing you to agree with my (or other posters) comments.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 5:34pm spotty botty wrote:
Thank you. At last 'an actual real life person'.....someone speaking sense....yes, shame on the ignorant people of Rodmell who obviously have nothing better to do than launch a hate campaign on the owner!! Happy New Year to you all...miserable bunch!!!
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 6:20pm Jockey wrote:
No hate campaign.....just wanting to save a pub that means a lot to the people living in the village and further afield. If the poor owner of the pub is a sad victim of the recession why wont she sell it?? Shame on her for not...don't you think 'an actual real life nice person'? Let the people who want to run it buy it from her, or does she have other plans for the pub....as she has already done to the car park of the pub - 3 houses??? you tell us all...we are not nasty people wanting a hate campaign...we want the truth....
 
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On 3 Jan 2009 at 6:25pm Jockey wrote:
No hate campaign.....just wanting to save a pub that means a lot to the people living in the village and further afield. If the poor owner of the pub is a sad victim of the recession why wont she sell it?? Shame on her for not...don't you think 'an actual real life nice person'? Let the people who want to run it buy it from her, or does she have other plans for the pub....as she has already done to the car park of the pub - 3 houses??? you tell us all...we are not nasty people wanting a hate campaign...we want the truth....
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 6:50pm Fair Play wrote:
What makes you think she doesn't want to sell. Perhaps you are jumping to conclusions. Has anyone approached her to discuss any serious proposals you may have. Surely shutting the pub is such a drastic move for everyone concerned. Have you given a moments thought to the loyal staff who have lost their jobs?Any idea who the people are who would like to run it??? This all sounds like a lot of hot air and extremely childish.....get back on your horse 'jockey'!!
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 7:30pm nosey old git wrote:
get a life. no customers no pub. its not a charity. how can you say its unwelcoming and the food and service are bad when you dont go in there. there was an excellent new chef and a sweet little waitress. the barmaid is a cracker always smiling. put your money where your mouth is and make a realistic offer or shut up and accept that you didn,t use or want the pub. problem solved. its shut.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 7:48pm Rodmell geezer wrote:
The local press are taking a photo on sunday 4th january at 12 at the pub in support for the reopening. please turn up if you can. please on your best behaviour as the police have been notified.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 8:06pm Mr Bone wrote:
Why do they need to be there. I suppose they just want some xmas overtime.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 8:13pm jockey wrote:
i know the staff personally....i know they have just had a new chef that has had good reviews...loyal staff - yes.....loyal owner...? you tell me....there has been a lot of interest in the pub 'fair play'...serious offers.....no hot air...oh, well, only by yourself....why can it not be sold for the right price? interest is so high.....if you know so much, how much do you think it is worth...? surely in this time of financial uncertainty and the pub not making any money the owner would be open to offers...but no...! so what are the plans..? we do care, about the staff and all that support the pub....
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 8:13pm northeaser wrote:
The pub must re-open. Its location is superb - on that busy road. It needs a complete overhaul by someone with the vision to recognise it's potential. Take a trip to the ram at firle for inspiration. I love the idea of a co-operative pub but it definately needs someone with the experience and where-with-all to turn it round. The success will most certainly ride on the quality of food though - I feel that's what draws in the custom. It would, however, be even better with a good garden - shame its been steadily lost to development over the years.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 8:31pm ... wrote:
The pub has been closed, If the owner does not want to sell i dont blame her, it is a lovely place and seeing as she has owned it for so long it is probably heartbreaking to part with it, if the pub had some possitive support from the people of the village then it may still be open. But reading all this it is pretty obvious why the pub is closed. The country is in a recession at the moment which means it is hard for everyone including the poor staff that have now lost there jobs. If you are so keen on saving 'your local' then why are you all writing such nasty comments. Anyone can see you are the reason the pub has gone down hill, with no support from the people who 'truley care' then the place has no one. everytime i have been in the pub it has been excellent, i think you are all just extremely homophobic and dont like the manager, this is no way to save the pub.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 8:36pm Fairplay wrote:
Once again you are jumping to conclusions and bad mouthing the owner 'loyal owner'!!! I only asked if anyone had approached the owner with serious offers. I have no interest in the right price just concerned for the well being of the staff and landlady.My family have visited the pub on a regular basis and have enjoyed it immensley.....unlike yourself!!! Has the owner been made any serious offers.I am sure she can't afford to have it sitting empty and would rather see the pub open and doing well under new ownership. As 'nosey git' says put your money where your mouth is and get off your horse!!! ....sad
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 8:39pm concerned wrote:
Just wondering where we are meeting for photo call tmorrow
 
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On 3 Jan 2009 at 8:51pm nosey old git wrote:
well said...you hit the nail on the head. after all the comments on here i wouldn't blame the owner if she bulldozed the place. if she ever opens it again i would expect all nasty posters to be barred anyway.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:02pm Jockey wrote:
homophobic? oh dear. what a silly thing to say. why say that?? all we want, and sorry if you think we are being nasty, is to keep the pub open...and yes, we have made offers. serious offers. a long time ago and very recently. okay, if the owner wants to keep the pub then ultimately there is nothing we can do, and i can understand why she would in a way. where does homophobic come in to it? we are serious about the pub and want to make it more historic than it alreay is - is that so wrong? we don't hate anyone, but we can but try surely? please don't try to make out we are nasty, we really are not, but feel we have to keep fighting so we are sorry if that upsets people, that is not the intention.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:03pm jockey wrote:
homophobic? oh dear. what a silly thing to say. why say that?? all we want, and sorry if you think we are being nasty, is to keep the pub open...and yes, we have made offers. serious offers. a long time ago and very recently. okay, if the owner wants to keep the pub then ultimately there is nothing we can do, and i can understand why she would in a way. where does homophobic come in to it? we are serious about the pub and want to make it more historic than it alreay is - is that so wrong? we don't hate anyone, but we can but try surely? please don't try to make out we are nasty, we really are not, but feel we have to keep fighting so we are sorry if that upsets people, that is not the intention.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:12pm fairplay wrote:
Well if you have made serious offers we can quite understand why the landlady won't sell to a bunch of small minded locals. If you think this is the way to go about purchasing the pub ........get back on your horse and ride into the sunset 'nasty cowboy'!!!! P.S By the way...What was your offer???
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:14pm ... wrote:
JOCKEY - If you 'know' the staff so personally you would know they would be deeply hurt by all that your saying about this pub, and about there manager, I would imagane some people have worked pretty damn hard to keep the place going all things considered so why not just let it be. It is very difficalt running a business especially one that needs round the clock attention like a pub, so unless you are planning to spend half your life in the pub if it re-opens then i would just give it a rest because the chances are you don't go in there that often anyway.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:17pm Mr Bone wrote:
Why is it going off here? Nobody has had a pop at anyone they have just stated their opinions. That is why this place is called a forum!
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:19pm Gobsmacked wrote:
Well, you are upsetting people and can't imagine how the landlady would feel if she was reading this. Think about it.Sleep well.....have you nothing better to do with your time...Jockey ugh!!!
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:25pm Paul Mellor wrote:
I have spent half my life - and income - in there for the last 9 years. I do know all the ataff and I don't hide behind anonymity. I am happy to listen to the comments of the illiterate and the mis-informed. I'm also prepared to
"stick my money where my mouth is"> Unfortunately the owner seems not dipsosed to sell. One question for Fair Play and others - why not?
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:41pm gobsmacked wrote:
Have you asked her.? I am sure she would have sold if your offer was so enticing.???I seem to recall that the gossip over a year ago was that the pub was offered to the villagers and obviously they did not persue the opportunity.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:43pm Brighton belle wrote:
I have used the pub on several occasions but found the locals very intimidating and not at all friendly to outsiders they seemed to treat it as their home i am surprised they dont buy it.The landlady and staff were always welcoming but the locals sitting at the bar & on the round table were enough to put anyone off.I guess this is why she had to close so they only have themselves to blame.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 9:58pm Newhaven Nymph wrote:
I quite agree nosey old git i also would not blame the owner if she bulldozed the place when the so called locals have treated her soooo badly.Has the person leading this martydom had the decency to speak to her before starting such a vindictive campaign? why do they think they could succeed with their unfriendliness they certainly wouldnt encourage business-just prop up the bar and use it like home!
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 10:36pm nice to know wrote:
hmmm, dialogue would be nice, don't just close a local hub without any. please don't post if you can't put any constructive comment on, shame on you. or not. big smiley and laugh out loud.
 
 
On 3 Jan 2009 at 11:32pm nosey old git wrote:
all this bitching. has anyone considered how the staff must feel reading this. i know they are upset at the pub closing but more depressing is that they have really tried to make the pub more welcoming and friendly only to read spiteful comments about how unpleasant they are. a couple of theme nights have been held with the pub decorated and a lovely atmosphere with the staff really joining in. the locals were noticable by their absence. some of the locals who are complaining never use the pub. why start worrying about it now. what is all this hoping to acheive except more ill feeling. i am not really a pub goer but i have always felt welcome there. thankyou sue torie abby gi jane dan abbie steve brendon and malcolm. some of us appreciated your efforts and will miss you. good luck and best wishes to you all.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 6:15am SHS wrote:
Aren't three houses being built on the car park of this pub? Presumably if it closes a conversion to more houses will take place. Putting this in perspective I read recently that one pub a day (could have been more) closed in England last year. Solution: remove the internet and the telephone, then cut taxes to give people more to spend.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 11:00am sashimi wrote:
Rodmell is full of privileged, intelligent, rich and articulate people who are well able to organise a buy out for the pub and effective opposition to any proposed change of use. It may take a bit of time and organisation. If they can't be bothered to do so, that's their look out: their village will slowly die as Piddinghoe has since their pub disappeared in a fire a decade ago.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 11:47am Richard Carpenter wrote:
Yet another nail in the coffin of village life brought about by perhaps someone looking more at excess profit from redevelopment rather than catering for the needs of locals.I agree a sorry day for all who used tis facility.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 12:28pm Spinster Of This Parish wrote:
Are you the same Richard Carpenter that created "Catweazle"?
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 1:14pm Trotter wrote:
It's true that pubs are closing all over the country right now, but no pub can keep going solely on its regulars. The Abergavenny needed to appeal to people beyond the village. It should by rights be a roaring success - it's on the South Downs Way, why didn't it offer 'soup & a sandwich' for a fiver in the summer to the hundreds of walkers passing through? It's the only pub on the C7 between Lewes and Newhaven, it's in the middle of solid tourist countryside, loads of B&Bs in the area, etc etc Lots of the locals DID use it regularly and lots of them got banned regularly too. The pub has been here since 1640, it is part of a real village not a commuter dormitory - we are a real community in Rodmell, we do things together which make our life here much better than in a suburb or town, we have the summer show and the winter panto and we look out for each other when we are in trouble, and the pub is part of all that. We will fight for it and we won't give it up easily.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 2:39pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Hmmm, banning the local regulars is never a good business practice for a village pub, unless their conduct is so repellent they're a disncentive to other potential customers.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 3:48pm Minx. wrote:
I womder what the regulars did to get barred?
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 4:47pm lewes lush wrote:
So Mr.Mellor what did you achieve with your 10mins of fame? Not a lot i feel other than making the owner look good and yourself an idiot.If you knew that she could not possibly sell then why not speak to hear on a one to one thus avoiding this ridiculous public showdown which didnt turn out as you hoped for.You have now alienated the other % of the village that just might have been behind you.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 4:53pm ok wrote:
hmm perhaps you weren't there? or perhaps you are confused, i believe over 100 people showed their support for the reopening of the pub. Anyway lets see what the local paper reports.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 4:59pm Mr Man wrote:
there was loads of support to save the pub today and mr mellor certainly did not make an idiot of himself - hopefully the pub will be up and running in the near future.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 5:18pm her indoors wrote:
so who is going to open the pub then. i dont expect the owner will after all this hostility. shame the hundred people didn't use the pub more often then it would still be open. if it does open again then probably the agressive drunks, fighters and local nasties wont be allowed in again. whatever the paper reports the owner has every right to close down a business that is losing money.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 5:32pm Gobsmacked wrote:
Hopefully the pub will up and running in the near future and hopefully not by the likes of Mr Mellor!!!
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 5:38pm Mr Man wrote:
hopefully someone who can run a pub.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 5:42pm old rodmell resident wrote:
It appeared to me at the meeting today that Mr Mellor should have done a little more research into why Sue can not sell the pub.....or maybe he has????!!!!.Looks to me like there has been an ulterior motive all along. There was a lot of support . Such a shame and so there should be .Who wants to see their village pub close. Quite obvious to us that most of the villagers have no idea what really is going on. Perhaps we can hear from the great man himself!!!
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 5:43pm doitall wrote:
i hear he has been asking staff if they will work there when he has got the pub. sounds like a plan to me. be cheap now its closed
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 6:00pm trixie wrote:
funny how you think you are a real community, you didn't come in the pub to hear locals slagging eachother off. this village is and has always been divided. top half, bottom half, council houses, old village, new rich., ..., only 4 piss heads have been barred and they had been warned.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 6:13pm ... wrote:
The pub has not been sold beacause it cant be sold. There are reasons for this that maybe the manager would not like to share with the rest of the village because they are personal. If she physically cant sell the pub then she HAS to close it due to money issues so it is no one's fault.
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 6:16pm dana from denton wrote:
forgive me for being stupid but as a complete outsider i cant quite see what everyone wants. the pub has closed due to no customers. the owner cant sell, planning permission is public property so cant be done secretely. no one has mentioned building houses, the owner was trying to run a business not a service for the village. what has all this acheived except unpleasantness. if you dont like a shop you go elsewhere. same with a pub. dont moan when it cant afford to run anymore, just like woolworths,
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 6:20pm ok by me wrote:
so you would work and worry for no profit would you mr carpenter, i think not
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 6:31pm joker wrote:
joke of the day; I understand the pub only closed for 3 months so the owner could take a break during the quiet months, she was planning to re launch in april with new chef etc. after all this, change of plan, lost heart, not going to re open. good work.......
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 7:03pm OLD RODMELL RESIDENT wrote:
FINALLY, SOMEONE HAS SPOKEN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE VILLAGE AND THE PUB IS HAS BEEN SO MUCH NICER WITHOUT THE LOCAL PISSHEADS
 
 
On 4 Jan 2009 at 9:01pm buried under driveway wrote:
Such a shame, the Abergavenny/Holly was one of my childhood favorites in the 70's along with the Buckle and the pub in Piddinghoe..both of which coincidentally closed or (ahem) caught fire during the last big recession, presumed unable to prosper on just a few locals? Thru the 80's/90's as a local yoof and more recently a Rodmell resident, I drank in the Abergavenny often, but the last two proprietors seemed content to run it as a dark, dated, unexciting, take it or leave it, locals-only-and-hence-dead pub. (No Coaches Thank You/Closed Mondays) Shut now, but it has been resurrected before and with that I wish the plucky residents well. Meanwhile.. PANTO ALFRESCO??
 
 
On 5 Jan 2009 at 12:20am Angry of Lewes wrote:
won't read any of this thread - you've all wasted your time -none of 'em in order
 
 
On 5 Jan 2009 at 11:04am not form around here wrote:
This is just so typical - happens all the time. Local business under-used has to close and then, when it's too late, everybody is up in arms!
I'm not a regular pub-goer but the idea of a 'community' run pub or a pub run by committee sounds terrible. Much better if the pub is run by an individual or couple with flair. But then that can only work if enough people actually go there and drink and eat..
The fact that Rodmell is apparently full of wealthy articulate people certainly does NOT mean they have the ability to run a pub, which presumably none of them have experience of doing anyway.
A pub is like any other business - it can only survive if it makes a profit, end of story.
 
 
On 5 Jan 2009 at 5:10pm sashimi wrote:
The Friends of the Lewes Arms got some way towards collecting the money to buy the pub from GK. It would have been owned by a committee of shareholders, but it would have been run by a manager. The Abergavenny Arms has been run down for a long time. There's not much money about for development as housing - and if the village oppose it, getting PP won't be easy. So the price should be reasonable and the opportunities for improvement are pretty clear. There must be some people with business sense in the village. It would make an excellent investment for the villagers whose lives (and house prices) will be enhanced if Rodmell has a decent pub.
 
 
On 5 Jan 2009 at 5:40pm The folks who live on the hill wrote:
We would like to see the Abergavenny re-open as soon as possible, it is the heart of the village providing a central meeting place for villagers and visitors alike (particularly those walking the Southdowns Way or visiting Monks House). We understand that several people are interested in its future continued use as a Public House or maybe a consortium would be prepared to purchase it rather than it either to be left empty or be turned into residential housing. It is essential to the village community and economy that it continues as a Pub.
 
 
On 5 Jan 2009 at 6:02pm Richard Hahlo wrote:
I would really like to see the Abergavenny Arms continue as a pub and a valuable resource for locals and visitors alike.
 
 
On 5 Jan 2009 at 7:42pm hopeful wrote:
i would really like to see woolies continue. not gonna happen
 
 
On 5 Jan 2009 at 11:04pm You know who i am!! wrote:
Well I'm Shocked!
Not by the closure, by the respose. You lovely locals I used to serve are really grumpy old gits!! Hang on I already knew that!
The lovely Landlady as we know is very stubborn! and I'd like to think this is the last thing she wanted to do, It's kind of admitting defeat in a way. Being bloody stubborn myself it's not easy trust me! I'd also like to think that like when you guys would come into the bar and smile, that your smile was genuine, as was mine (well mostly!!) that maybe minus the protesting and all the comments, she may have welcomed suggetions and dare I say it! help!!! But by now i'm sure her back is well and truly up! as mine would be!
I guess now we'll never know.
I must say I have had my fair share of drunken nights and pulled enough pints for a small army in there and enjoyed it believe it or not!
You never know it may be open again by the time I come back form the north!!!!

 
 
On 6 Jan 2009 at 12:38am innocent bystander wrote:
Wow photo shoot .. watch out Sussex Express.. hope you have great legal beagals sniffing your press before you go to print ... it was pretty heated out there ... Fat Boy Slim strutting his stuff "pints not profit", Rodmell Geezer lying low & looking sheepish, Jockey had fallen or perhaps chasing ponies.... Slippy teeth nearly lost 'em' snarling ..... 'Shaking Sue" doing her best to defend herself in front of a braying crowd ... blimey "credit crunch" or what ?China on the verge of a riot & Rodmell not far off .. I had hoped to meet Newhaven Nymph,Parish Spinster, Lewes Lush, Fair Lady. Seaford Snogger,Brighton Belle or even Dana from Denton... never miss the opportunity to meet a feisty lady... 'sleepy dormitory village' .. I think not .. if the Pub does reopen don't miss this one !!
 
 
On 6 Jan 2009 at 12:56am spotty botty wrote:
Sashimi we had a lovely Pub, it wasn't run down,we had a lot of fun there ..we are all bereft.. just intermittent trade & lack of a an honest back up from the village.. & the countries financial crisis & cheap supermarket booze has been its downfall as has many others in this country ....when did you last visit ???
 
 
On 6 Jan 2009 at 3:20pm Nenna wrote:
Hi there, I've been reading the above comments and can't understand why this is getting a bit bitchy? Homophobic....where did that come from? That's just insane! Can we come back to the point that the pub has closed and us villagers have lost a nice local pub. My hubby & I were regulars & will miss out on the friendlinessof the staff and of course the biggest thing for us was the socialising. For us it was a easy way of getting out of the house at the week-end & enjoying a few drinks without having to worry about whose driving. We were shocked to only find out the pub was closing on New Years day!!, not a good start for 2009. We shall both miss it very much, we had some really fun, fab times there and hope it may re-open one day as a lovely country pub. All the best with the campaign. Cheers Xx
 
 
On 6 Jan 2009 at 3:20pm Nenna wrote:
Hi there, I've been reading the above comments and can't understand why this is getting a bit bitchy? Homophobic....where did that come from? That's just insane! Can we come back to the point that the pub has closed and us villagers have lost a nice local pub. My hubby & I were regulars & will miss out on the friendlinessof the staff and of course the biggest thing for us was the socialising. For us it was a easy way of getting out of the house at the week-end & enjoying a few drinks without having to worry about whose driving. We were shocked to only find out the pub was closing on New Years day!!, not a good start for 2009. We shall both miss it very much, we had some really fun, fab times there and hope it may re-open one day as a lovely country pub. All the best with the campaign. Cheers Xx
 
 
On 6 Jan 2009 at 5:40pm sadforsomanyarms wrote:
if the real reason for closing the pub was purely cash flow, why was there no increase to prices prior to closure.
i think that the real problem is a pure callous attack on the locals who wont frequent the pub in retalliation to three well known locals,who spent a lot of money in the pub .so people who have gathered there regularly now rarely see each other cheers sue
 
 
On 6 Jan 2009 at 5:43pm sadforsomanyarms wrote:
if the real reason for closing the pub was purely cash flow, why was there no increase to prices prior to closure.
i think that the real problem is a pure callous attack on the locals who wont frequent the pub in retalliation to three well known locals,who spent a lot of money in the pub .so people who have gathered there regularly now rarely see each other cheers sue
 
 
On 7 Jan 2009 at 11:48am Shindogo wrote:
How should the staff feel reading this...
Like they did, no doubt, reading that the pub had closed via a sign on the door, I expect. The lovely kind owner, it must be heartbreaking to part with it, but in such understandably difficult financial times. Homophobia nonsense, this has been run down.
For what. Maybe personal reasons, but will this head to development - let's see, shame to kneecap asuch a nice village for it though.
Convert, let, sell on the next ride up. Thsre's a peronal reason that may become evident as time goes by...
 
 
On 7 Jan 2009 at 1:02pm The saturday girl! wrote:
What a shame....... I only worked at the pub a couple of shifts a week for the last year or so but I wanted to say my bit, I'm not here to make a particular point, just to inject some niceness into this!!
Good luck to Dan, he really did not get appreciated for what he did and I wish him all the best for the future. See you soon Ab and Torie!!
I enjoyed working at the pub, granted it was quiet but the staff and the few locals (Neil, Jon, and uh Trotter i think ;-) made it a pleasant shift nearly everytime!
Good Luck with reviving the place!!!
 
 
On 7 Jan 2009 at 3:11pm gobsmacked wrote:
This proves all of this nastiness is purely a personal attackat Sue. A pub a day closes in the uk....because of cash flow not because three pissheads are no longer welcome. If the locals have not frequented the pub in retalliation....they have brought the closure on themselves....cheers mates!!!!
 
 
On 7 Jan 2009 at 5:33pm SDW Walker wrote:
I have visited the pub several times for lunch and a beer and have always found the staff welcoming and the food good. It will be a great disappointment for SDW walkers if the pub closes.
 
 
On 9 Jan 2009 at 9:30am sashimi wrote:
So, reading the Sussex Express today I see that the villagers are going to try to club together and buy this pub - and I owe them an apology for suggesting they hadn't got it in them to do it.
 
 
On 9 Jan 2009 at 10:10pm stella wrote:
just like they were going to buy the farm and run it when that upped and moved. watch this space.
 
 
On 10 Jan 2009 at 7:03pm A Rodmell cynic wrote:

Rodmell wants and needs a pub. It also wants and needs 'regime change'. Residents by and large didn't support The Abergavenny because the atmosphere was wretched, the food grim, the welcome patchy. The former landlady is a property developer, as evidenced by her wildly unpopular scheme to build houses in the car park. Does it only occur to a cynic that running the pub into the ground (while tinkering on the margins to show you have tried to make a go of it) showing a 3 year loss and then applying for a 'change of use' only adds to the value of the new houses? This could be a thriving, successful enterprise. We have walkers, drinkers, villagers, Virginia Woolfeites and, of course, an insane amount of passing traffic on the C7. What is required is some vision, passion, goodwill and basic interpersonal skills. It's not rocket science. It's not a witch hunt and it's not homophobic.
Maybe it's just time to sell up for a fair price, and let the village pub prosper
 
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On 10 Jan 2009 at 7:03pm A Rodmell cynic wrote:

Rodmell wants and needs a pub. It also wants and needs 'regime change'. Residents by and large didn't support The Abergavenny because the atmosphere was wretched, the food grim, the welcome patchy. The former landlady is a property developer, as evidenced by her wildly unpopular scheme to build houses in the car park. Does it only occur to a cynic that running the pub into the ground (while tinkering on the margins to show you have tried to make a go of it) showing a 3 year loss and then applying for a 'change of use' only adds to the value of the new houses? This could be a thriving, successful enterprise. We have walkers, drinkers, villagers, Virginia Woolfeites and, of course, an insane amount of passing traffic on the C7. What is required is some vision, passion, goodwill and basic interpersonal skills. It's not rocket science. It's not a witch hunt and it's not homophobic.
Maybe it's just time to sell up for a fair price, and let the village pub prosper


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