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Who to trust with environmental issues

On 8 Oct 2017 at 9:44am anxious wrote:
Lewes Greens are a strange breed. Now they seem to be in complete disarray - 'Greens','Subud Greens','independent Greens'. Personally I think the way they seem to present themselves as self important judgemental pursuers of niche projects does the cause little good. It all feels a bit elusive and insular and a bit of a turn off to be honest.
In the real world the necessity of action on climate and the environment has never been more urgent. A National Green Movement - not little Lewes' 'Independent Greens' - could have real force as an agent of direct action . And that's where the Greens' true role lies in my opinion. Not as a political party at either local or national level. Caroline Lucas is an honest broker. Apart from the (minimum really) publicity that her MP role gives to her views she would be much more a force for the good operating outside conventional politics.
On 8 Oct 2017 at 12:16pm Mark wrote:
She is a very regular panelist on Question Time and Any Questions and each time she appears she's always the most lucid and incisive panelist there.
On 8 Oct 2017 at 3:26pm Boiled with bicarb wrote:
On 8 Oct 2017 at 4:21pm Pitchfork wielder wrote:
A fair electoral system would be a good idea. One where every vote gets to do some heavy lifting and voting Labour or Green doesn't just let a tory back in.
On 8 Oct 2017 at 5:27pm Pedro wrote:
It seems that Corbyn's Labour did a reasonable amount of damage to the Green Partys election prospects this year, but that is down to Labour and Greens overlapping on many environment issues now thanks to both Caroline Lucas and Jeremy Corbyn campaigning over decades on similar issues. The reformed Labour Party is in part a result of the influence of the Green Party bringing these important issues to public attention. We should be grateful to them for that at the very least.

I wish Caroline Lucas continued success, whether as the sole Green MP or otherwise. She seems to be a very reasonable, rational and progressive human being, in an unkind political climate that is being overshadowed by noisy, self-serving, narcissistic individuals wishing to peddle fear and resentment.
On 9 Oct 2017 at 12:49pm Trite wrote:
....and here endeth the sermon, peasants.
On 9 Oct 2017 at 3:28pm Lateral Thinker wrote:
@ anxious.
Why not try reading the views of both/all sides of the debate, and from any independent commentators (if you can find any), and then try to come to your own views rather than simply trusting a politician from any party?
Environmental issues are very complex, and, unfortunately, there is no simple "right answer". Everything mankind does (from subsistence farming through to industrial farming, and on to wind/solar/nuclear power generation or fracking) has some consequence on the environment. It is a question of balancing the advantages with the disadvantages.
Unfortunately other matters such as "fat cats", "corporate greed", "short termism" all tend to get dragged in to support one side's green argument, or to denigrate the other's.
Whether Labour, The Green Party, or any other party from left, right or centre, has the "best" environmental approach has to be a matter for your own personal thoughts/conscience on the subject. Once you decide what your own views are, find the "party" or faction that has the closest views to your own... except of course other aspects of their manifesto may not align quite so closely to you own preferences.
Despite what the media like to say, Politics will always require a personal compromise, t'was always thus.... (Unless your name is Karl Marx or Attilla the Hun)
On 10 Oct 2017 at 12:03pm Gothaved wrote:
We need a lot of work to fix environmental issues. I don't really think that at the moment we have the one who deserve to be trusted... But there is a lot that we can do, they can ... We still just stay here talking about this, trying to blame someone, but we do nothing to change it.. so sad actually!

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