On 6 Oct 2016 at 1:33pm Pedro wrote:
I'm sure the subject heading of this thread will cause a few peoples heads to explode in judgemental rage, but just for a change, perhaps we can just hear about what people do use to relax, heal or enjoy themselves - from peppermint green tea, to cigars, through the heroin - nothing is off limits from discussion, just a bit of open honesty. Perhaps also what you might like to try. No judgements here, and if it baits the usual condescending, self righteous lot, then so be it.
I'll start. I'm currently enjoying a cup of black coffee (usually have de-caf, but feeling a bit adventurous today). No surprises in the big "reveal" that i use cannabis, which I vape a few times a week in evenings. I no longer drink alcohol, knocked that on the head, as it was beginning to make me feel a bit lethargic and I thought I'd try to see if I can go "cold turkey" - which I have done now for about 6 months. I dislike smoking (anything), as feels a bit hot and nasty on my lungs.
I also eat chocolate occasionally (even better with the munchies!). Other than that, the occasional green tea variant. Seldom take pain-killers anymore. I did once have chronic back/neck pain which I used ibuprofen daily for months on end (painful enough to disturb sleep unless i had painkillers), then switched to cannabis and within several weeks my neck/back pains disappeared. Not claiming any miracles here, I'm just glad the pain has gone and I'm not taking harmful NSAIDs daily.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 1:46pm Nibbles wrote:
So give me coffee and TV, peacefully.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 1:57pm Hot lips wrote:
Pedro is a dfl, that is clear from his "i am so interesting" essays.
Do us a favour an vape off
On 6 Oct 2016 at 2:02pm A Burglar wrote:
My fave is heroine. It's great, unfortunately it's a tad expensive so I have to break into old folks houses and nick their pension. But hey ho, i dont give a stuff. Great things drugs, dont you agree pedro.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 2:16pm Pedro wrote:
"and if it baits the usual condescending, self righteous lot, then so be it"
Guess I was spot on! So predictable.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 2:16pm Dr robert wrote:
Burglar, in Portugal, they've had no heroin fatalities for years. No need to rob or prostitute yrself, get clean, controlled heroin from a clinic, have addiction managed with a view to coming off it. HIV infection rates have plumetted (clean needles). Here our policies lead to overdose or contamination deaths, poorer addicts getting murdered by killers targeting prostitutes.. Results of prohibition. Well-off heroin users can manage their addiction, so don't make the headlines. Enforcement drives this market underground, where the villains control the drugs. Not good.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 2:22pm Pedro wrote:
@ Dr Robert, there is no point arguing rationally with these people - rational arguments are instantly rejected. They don't read it properly, and go direct for the thumbs down button just after they realise you are disagreeing with their agenda.
Best to just ignore them and stick to the thread topic. I like your username by the way, I assume The Beatles reference??
On 6 Oct 2016 at 4:41pm Tim wrote:
Pedro, it's all very well asking the question - but where do I get the drugs in the first place in order to try them?
On 6 Oct 2016 at 5:37pm Pedro wrote:
Good question Tim. But i'm afraid that part is down to you and requires doing some investigations and hoping friends of friends can help out. Just be bold and discuss it with people you know who may be open-minded. You'll be surprised at just how many people use cannabis (and who) and once you do, they surely will be happy to help.
Its a pity something as benign as weed is hard for some people to obtain (sure it might seem easy for others, younger, who have plenty of connections) especially when it could genuinely help someone with medical conditions like parkinsons or MS.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 9:23pm The Greek wrote:
Weed is as easy to get as a pint of milk.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 9:30pm Concerned wrote:
Webbo, when are you gonna get rid of this drug supplying cretin?
On 6 Oct 2016 at 9:46pm Pedro wrote:
@concerned you have totally lost your marbles. Do words appear on the screen how you wish them to appear? Despite being almost the total opposite of reality. Have a day off.
On 6 Oct 2016 at 11:25pm James wrote:
Pollen for me Pedro.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 10:18am Pedro wrote:
@ James - nice. Does it feel good, or does it feel like the soul was wrenched out of your body? (or whatever C4s Jon Snow said - not the bloke from Game of Thrones)
On 7 Oct 2016 at 10:41am Flowergirl wrote:
When you are off your face on drugs in the evening with your 3 year old safely tucked up in bed, does your partner also partake? Or does one of you remain clean should your child need attention? As a mother I have often had to take a child to an out of office dr because of a sudden rash or fever etc. Hence I did not drink in the evenings.Or do you drive whilst under the influence?
On 7 Oct 2016 at 11:29am agreed wrote:
Pedro is an utterly selfish criminal and a bad parent. Cannabis affects motor skills another excellent reason why it should be illegal as they shouldnt be driving under the influence of it.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 12:07pm Pedro wrote:
@ "flowergirl" and "agreed" - so I see the character assassination and diatribe against me press on. But these are again fairly straightforward comments that are easy to swiftly dispatch :
Firstly, I've never driven under the influence of cannabis, ever. When I was much younger (late teens), I did drive a couple of times over the limit with alcohol, regrettably, and luckily didn't have an accident, but I have grown up and learned from these errors - it was reckless. Alcohol lowers inhibitions much more, and you're more likely to end up behind a wheel after alcohol through misplaced confidence, than cannabis where I've found myself being far more cautious and alert.
Secondly, my tolerance for cannabis is quite reasonable. I don't get "stoned" off my ass where I'm falling about laughing with hysterics and unable to stand up. Last time I did that was in Amsterdam on holiday with a space cake a couple of years back, and even then I could function pretty well (better than the countless times i've been drunk). I have a small amount of weed a few evenings per week at home. I still wouldn't drive, as although I would be definitely far more capable on weed compared with alcohol (studies have proven this as per below link), I know that if I was to be stopped and tested at the roadside, the law would throw the book at me, and perhaps rightly so (although they're far harsher on drug driving than drunk driving, despite the evidence to show cannabis driving, in moderate quantities, is far less likely to impair you compared with alcohol).
So please can you knock off the faux-sincerity about the welfare of my child, and making crude assumptions that i'm "off my face" - cut out the hysteria, stereotypes and inaccurate judgements. You're making a fool out of yourself with your ignorance. Not everyone who takes drugs is like Keith Richards, just as not everyone who drinks ends up like Oliver Reed.
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On 7 Oct 2016 at 12:22pm Flowerpot wrote:
Trying the harder stuff when you had a baby?...you do the maths.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 12:27pm Pedro wrote:
@ flowerpot Please elaborate - "harder stuff"? I gave up alcohol 6 months ago.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 12:28pm Flowerpot wrote:
And you evade my question about your child being alone in the house with adults not in a fit state to adequately care for them. Bringing children into a drugs culture is frankly obscene. I hope social services are aware.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 12:40pm Pedro wrote:
@ flowerpot - I've already said that both me and my partner are in perfectly fit state to care for our child. After consuming 100mg of vaped weed between 2 people, you don't lose all your faculties suddenly and pass out in a haze of green smoke. You seem to live in a fantasy world or alternate reality, or have watched too many US comedies of people getting high for the first time and assuming thats the rule. I would equate what we vape in an evening as the same as an adult drinking a medium glass of white wine or a pint of beer - perhaps relaxed (no bad thing), but perfectly capable of functioning and looking after children.
Alcohol is a much "harder" drug than cannabis, by any measurement. Try to do some research and you never know, you may actually come out of it a bit more prepared.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 12:45pm Flowerpot wrote:
Aah so you both do drugs at the same time and with a child in the house. That's all I wanted to know.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 1:05pm Pedro wrote:
Why? So you can claim some sort of moral superiority? I'm afraid you sacrificed that the moment you decided to become a forum troll.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 1:54pm Serg Lewes wrote:
@pedro: You are becoming quite notorious for calling anyone that disagrees with you a "troll" and accusing everyone who dares challenge you as all being one and the same poster. Really you come across as rather patronising.
Shape up man, a good kick up the backside is in order.
On 7 Oct 2016 at 5:15pm James wrote:
Pollen is a nice gentle smoke Pedro. Odd people on here criticising cannabis while they probably don't think twice about polishing off a bottle or so of wine in an evening.
I gave up drinking nearly two years and now feel far fitter and alert at work than ever before.
On 8 Oct 2016 at 12:27pm Pedro wrote:
@ James, indeed, its called hypocrisy and allowing propaganda thats been force fed to them for generations cloud their mind, which suspends critical thinking on this subject. Part of life is about seeing through the propaganda and spin we're bombarded with - not everyone is good at it, but some of us are.
On 12 Oct 2016 at 7:39am AdMiN wrote: