On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:03am (Not) Donna Edmunds wrote:
On the 17th October, my colleague Ian Wilson and I will be the UKIP candidates in the Lewes Town Council by-election.
The seats have been vacated by councillors who quit in disgust at the undemocratic nature of the town council. Well, we in UKIP know all about taking on undemocratic institutions, don't we?!
It's going to be a hard slog to take the seats - Lewes is a deeply left-liberal town and the council is dominated by LibDems and greens. Polly Toynbee lives within the ward! But with a bit of hard work and intelligent campaigning, we can turn the tide in UKIP's favour. And of course it all works towards the European and general elections.
We'll be out and about leafletting over the next few weeks. Look out here and on the Lewes facebook site for details of events. If you can't make any of them but would like to help out anyway do let me know, we'll be happy to have you on board.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:11am UKIP wrote:
Donna will be delivering leaflets over the next few weeks all over the area.
This will be your chance to meet her and show her your support.
Let`s all give her and Ian Wilson a warm Lewes welcome everybody.
Hip Hip Hooray for Donna and Ian.Let`s turn back the tide,
Let`s turn Lewes UKIP purple and gold on the 17th of October!
On 26 Sep 2013 at 3:00am Insomniac wrote:
Oh yuk.
Funny though, I guess she's referring to the autocratic style of UKIP leader Nigel Farage when she mentions taking on undemocratic institutions.
Whilst I think of it, there have been lots of crap thrown at the Balcombe protesters about being dole scrounging layabouts. Anyone know how Donna supports her political campaigning? Does she have a job. If so, what is it?
Anyway, who were the Lewes town councillors who 'quit in disgust at the undemocratic nature of the town council'? What 'exactly' did they get the hump about?
On 26 Sep 2013 at 6:52am my town wrote:
good luck Donna
On 26 Sep 2013 at 7:52am Humbert wrote:
Insomniac, it was Matt Kent (independent) and Petrina Kingham (Lib Dem) who have resigned, but I don't think anywhere have either of them said it was in disgust. Petrina is moving out of the area and Matt said it was to spend more time with his family I think. Maybe Donna will enlighten us as to where she got the information that it was in disgust? I hope she will.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 8:37am Looney tune wrote:
The reason Donna gives for Kent and Kingham's resignation are just untrue, a fantasy..... or, if you want to be uncharitable, a downright lie.
Barcombe Councillor Donna Edmunds has only been noticeable in Barcombe and at Lewes District Council for her absence. She has done nothing of note (unless you count betraying those that voted for her by jumping ship from the Tories to UKIP!). Once elected she moved in to Barcombe and then kept her head down. So, despite not seeming to have the time to do one fairly minor job properly she is now going for two others, MEP for South East and Lewes Town Council representative for Bridge Ward.
Arrogance of the highest order. As was said here before, she's a talker not a doer and, judging by her comments above, possibly a fantasist and spreader of lies too. Maybe she can back up her assertions with some fact? Donna? Or maybe Matt Kent would like to comment?
On 26 Sep 2013 at 8:58am Zebedee wrote:
And as Matt Kent stated when he resigned:
"I hope that candidates that stand, either preferably Independently or affiliated to a political party, are under no illusion about how much work should be put into a Town Council role."
I hope that Matt's residing legacy to Bridge ward is not UKIPs Donna Edmunds (or Ian Wilson). If either band wagon jumper succeeds Bridge is unlikely to be served well by it's representative (or ever see them again once they are elected).
Check it out here »
On 26 Sep 2013 at 9:01am Lord Helpus wrote:
The only reason to vote UKIP is to send a message to the others we are not happy with them, not that we are happy with UKIP. Needless to say Donna might well jump ship again and we'll get a surprise councillor for another party. Too many councils on the gravy train anyway.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 9:05am Matt Kent wrote:
Hi Donna.
I've just been made aware of this thread, and I wish you and your UKIP colleague the best of luck in the by-election.
For the record, I did not leave the Town Council 'in disgust', I left, as widely reported in the press and on my blog, to spend more time for my family and career - no other reason.
These are the facts and I hope that was clear. Thanks - Matt
On 26 Sep 2013 at 9:07am Sinking feeling wrote:
It would be hateful if UKIP got in on the back of a protest vote. Better to vote for an Independent.
There are certainly too many tiers of authority and it's looking like this will become a large issue in the next few years.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 9:18am Rationalist wrote:
Hmm... never though of Matt as one for silver tongued insincerity.
Perhaps Donna would like to back up her statement that Matt and Petrina 'quit in disgust at the undemocratic nature of the town council.' Otherwise we'd have to add this to the banana statements she made on Twitter to Jerry Cornelious when she called him the village idiot and wished he died of cancer, and conclude that she's not fit to represent anybody.
The irony is that she heavily promotes the use of social media and the internet within UKIP, when she's obviously unable to use it responsibly herself!
On 26 Sep 2013 at 9:25am Petrina Kingham wrote:
Donna, I find it most strange that having never spoken to me you feel able to give reasons as to why I left the Town Council. My reasons were, as were Matt's reported in the Sussex Express and on my Blog and are not in any way associated with the 'undemocratic nature of the Town Council'. If you wish to quote me or indeed state what you believe to be my opinion in the public domain I would hope that next time you have the courtesy to pick the telephone and speak to me first rather than make incorrect assumptions.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 9:41am Voter wrote:
I would like Donna to withdraw from this election if she cannot demonstrate that what she is claiming about other candidates is true. UKIP might like to let us know if they endorse Donna's claims about our Town Council.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 11:26am Shameus wrote:
Why a "deeply left-liberal town" of thinking people should suddenly vote for the knee-jerk right of Tory candidates is unintelligible.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 12:18pm voter wrote:
(for 'candidates' read 'resigning Councillors')
On 26 Sep 2013 at 12:37pm Yay wrote:
Good luck to Donna and the team.
It's high time the racists and miso's had a voice in Lewes.
Go democracy!!!
On 26 Sep 2013 at 12:57pm factcheck wrote:
Isn't Donna a Councillor already? If so I am sure she will want to clarify where she got her information from that two Town Councillors "resigned out of disgust at the undemocratic nature of Town Council" before broadcasting it internationally on the internet.
She wouldn't just have invented it, knowing it to be completely and utterly baseless, would she?
Perhaps the Sussex Express could ask her, or she could let us all know. After all, she could be right...
On 26 Sep 2013 at 1:28pm Petrina Kingham wrote:
Dear Factcheck, as both the Councillors concerned have posted on here (Matt Kent and myself), neither of us 'resigned in disgust'. I was very sad to resign, unexpected family circumstances mean I will be leaving Lewes and I am quite frankly disgusted that a factually incorrect version of events has been stated in the public domain by someone I have not spoken to.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 1:36pm Another Voter. wrote:
Well said Voter, I second what you say. Please can we have a statement from Ms Edmunds demonstrating that what she is claiming about other candidates is true. Obviously we know she cannot back that up as it is a lie, but it would be amusing to hear her try.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 1:47pm Billy Oh wrote:
I have encountered Ian Wilson on a number of occasions and frankly, he is a crackpot of the highest order. Avoid.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:07pm Earl of De Montfort wrote:
Well as is the problem with this forum and it's open posting, none of the above posts could be genuinely from Donna, Matt or Petrina.
I sincerely hope people don't vote UKIP just to show the others what for. That opens the door for all kinds of trouble.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:12pm Castle Gate wrote:
The clearly erroneous statement at the top of this thread, written without any call to evidence and denied multiple times by the previously-elected representatives who are indicated in it, has not yet been withdrawn by the person who posted it. How could such a person possibly be elected?
It will be a disgrace to democracy if someone who wishes to take part in its process does not withdraw that statement, and apologise for it.
At Town Council, the person who can do the best for the town should win the by-election. Someone who will not withdraw remarks which are provably false must be shrouded in shame, especially if he or she continues to stand for the position.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:12pm Factcheck wrote:
Hello Petrina,
I am definitely inclined to believe you, given Donna's silence. However Donna has made a very public and confident claim. To be impartial what we need to do is give her a chance to demonstrate that what she has written is based on fact. She either has evidence for what she has broadcast , or she does not.
If she has no evidence for her claim, then it seems to me that she needs to respond, and consider her position.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:16pm Factcheck wrote:
Earl De Montford. You are right to question who posts what
One thing we do know, is that the comments in the first post, attributed to Donna Edmunds, are her words, because she is promoting those views on her own publicity page.
Of course someone may have cut and pasted them and added them here,using her name, in which case I am sure Webbo will correct the posting name. But they are definitely her own comments about two Councillors who recently resigned, either in disgust, or not.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:16pm Donna`s Facebook lies wrote:
Donna repeats her false assertions about Matt Kent and Petrina Kingham again here.
Check it out here »
On 26 Sep 2013 at 2:36pm lewes resident wrote:
that's the trouble with lewes, too many lefty liberals, we need more right wingers
On 26 Sep 2013 at 3:46pm Local jobs for locals wrote:
Surely, according to UKIP's own anti-immigration policies, Donna is not local enough to be entitled to be a candidate for Lewes Town Council. UKIP has given the candidacy to someone from a completely different village or town,, and is stopping someone who actually lives in the town from getting the opportunity. Donna Edmunds (UKIP) is trying to take local Councillor work from born and bred Lewesians.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 3:59pm Stickler wrote:
Donna is now blocking David Carter on her facebook page for being a trouble maker and for daring to question her for disseminating unsustantiated allegations.She is still insisting that the explanation that Matt Kent gave on this forum for his resignation are not true and that she is right..
On 26 Sep 2013 at 4:04pm Rationalist wrote:
She has now admitted that her statement was based upon hearsay and assumption. See the comments on her post (unless she's removed them now).
This is the second time she has ballsed up like this. The first time her response was to attempt to delete the evidence (twitter posts) and make her profile private (so no-one who was not a follower could see her Twitter posts) and then issue a begrudging half-apology when she was psuhed by the real-world publicity the event generated.
This time her response seems to be that it does not matter that she makes things up and posts them as fact... and then accuses the person (a very polite David Carter) of being a trouble maker and blocking him from her page.
Far from being a libertarian it is plain to see she is a censor. The two are incompatible. Do as you say Donna, otherwise you are all hot air.
Check it out here »
On 26 Sep 2013 at 4:06pm Factchecker wrote:
If Donna Edmunds is claiming that Matt's reasons are not true, then she needs to provide some evidence, and of course there may be some. If she is also claiming that Petrina Kingham's explanation of her resignation is also untrue, then again Donna Edmunds needs to provide evidence.
I wonder what Ian Wilson thinks.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 4:10pm Parrot wrote:
I've heard he doesn't.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 4:19pm Factchecker wrote:
I have just read Donna Edmunds response on her publicity page . She accuses Matt Kent of having other reasons for resigning, (though she refuses to say what they are) and bases her claims on gossip,, believing gossip to be fact. If there is evidence, she will not supply it, so i can only presume that there is none. Ms Edmunds then admits that she created her claims about Petrina Kingham ,knowing they were based only on an assumption. I agree that David Carter was perfectly polite and reasonable in challenging her, but like Godfrey Bloom she does not like being exposed and so has reacted accordingly. I find such behaviour disturbing.
I do not think Donna Edmunds is currently fit to be a candidate, let alone a Councillor.
On 26 Sep 2013 at 5:05pm Ooh look... wrote:
For the Facebook challenged here's a link to a screenshot of the exchange on Donna's Facebook page.
View the picture »
On 26 Sep 2013 at 8:03pm The Old Mayor wrote:
Anyone else reading 'The Casual Vacancy' by JK Rowling. All the petty intricacies of a Parish Council, a local forum, slanderous posts anonymously posted, local businessmen, A Doctor, Drug Addicts mixed with Sex. Sound familiar ?
On 26 Sep 2013 at 8:07pm Flubbery wrote:
Nope
On 26 Sep 2013 at 8:10pm Voice of Reason wrote:
What an utterly ghastly woman. Are there no depths she won't sink to?
On 26 Sep 2013 at 8:13pm voter wrote:
yes, (apart from the sex dugs and doctors) except in our case Donna Edmunds isn't making it up, she actually writes the stuff for real and even more astonishing, defends it.