On 5 Feb 2015 at 1:11pm Xplorer1 wrote:
This forum would benefit from the same kind of mea culpa, and action: the continual stream of bile, vindictiveness, bigotry, pettiness and plain nastiness that gushes forth here is dispiriting, offensive and alienating. And it's not "banter" - it's bullying.
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On 5 Feb 2015 at 2:03pm Middle of the Road wrote:
Is it possible to bully an anonymous person?
I've seen lots of disagreement on here but give us an example of this bullying you're on about
On 5 Feb 2015 at 2:21pm Captain Oates wrote:
Xplorer you're a knob
On 5 Feb 2015 at 3:23pm trooper wrote:
"Xplorer1" You have a very simple remedy to your problem,if you do not like it do not read it, and stop being so precious.
On 5 Feb 2015 at 5:49pm Old Bloke wrote:
@Xplorer1 - you sound like a drip. Are you one of those weak willie Liberal Democrats or Greens frightened of saying boo to a goose. Were you a tell tale at school?
On 5 Feb 2015 at 5:52pm townie wrote:
This is the problem now days....you're not anonymous, you have an IP address which can be traced.
So, in theory, Captain Oats up there could be traced to his IP address and any complaints of this name calling could, and i repeat COULD, be forwarded to the authorities.
It's called cyber bullying and although Mr/Miss/mrs etc Oats was obviously tongue in cheek, it happens
On 5 Feb 2015 at 6:02pm Southover Queen wrote:
So, Old Bloke, those people who commit suicide because of trolling and cyber-bullying are just inadequate lefties are they? Or is that Kippers are bullies perhaps? There's a big difference between robust debate and trolling.
Townie: IP addresses can't be used to trace anyone in such precise terms by civilians. Some IP addresses are fixed and "belong", typically, to companies. In most cases though you only get the vaguest notion of where a user is based and they can change very frequently because many ISPs will assign a user a dynamic address. Then if you add people using mobile data and public WiFi... well, perhaps you see why it just isn't quite that easy. The police might, I suppose, be able to insist on an ISP providing the information but it would I think only be on production of a warrant.
On 5 Feb 2015 at 6:13pm townie wrote:
I appreciate it's a bit of a minefield SQ but more and more people are being prosecuted for cyber bullying these days
On 5 Feb 2015 at 7:22pm grafter wrote:
Has there really been bullying on here? I don't know but I have noticed some people are very sensitive to criticism and seem to expect to be treated with respect despite treating others rudely. Perhaps all forums should have a warning for those who take themselves very seriously. ..being mocked can be bad for your mental health.
On 5 Feb 2015 at 8:36pm Old Bloke wrote:
@Southover Queen - what are these Kippers you keep going into a rage about? Your attitude towards them seems to be a bit pot kettle black.
Do you suffer from ager issues?
On 5 Feb 2015 at 8:47pm Smoked Herring wrote:
I'm being abused
On 5 Feb 2015 at 9:58pm Kipper wrote:
I'm with you Smoked Herring..
We have to stick together on this one before we get battered again..
On 5 Feb 2015 at 10:51pm Little Kipper wrote:
Old Bloke and Southover Queen are probably sat in silence in the same room & in front of the fire each with their own laptops slinging/typing the odd comment to one another.. ah life is sweet
On 5 Feb 2015 at 11:25pm skipper wrote:
SQ is a very angry woman.
On 5 Feb 2015 at 11:50pm Oh cod wrote:
No she's not
On 5 Feb 2015 at 11:58pm Pike wrote:
She's out.. she's gone phishing
On 6 Feb 2015 at 8:48am Captain Mainwaring wrote:
Stupid boy.
On 6 Feb 2015 at 9:20am Mark wrote:
@SQ. I'm not sure that it is all that difficult to find a postal address. Years ago when there used to be all those scam emails from Nigerian lawyers offering to share money, I fell into correspondence with a Russian scammer. I had lots of fun over several months - presuming that I was untraceable. Told him I was a Man of the Cloth living in Grampian...etc... I kept telling him sad stories about why he needed to send me money. Then one day he wrote back saying, "Actually you don't live in Grampian. You live at number blah blah Lewes, East Sussex BN7 blah blah blah..." So I stopped annoying him.
On 6 Feb 2015 at 12:14pm Sergey wrote:
Yes Mark the NKVD have got your number - just don't drink any tea if you go to London
On 6 Feb 2015 at 12:46pm Town Flyer wrote:
I agree with Trooper.
What I don't read can't hurt me. If someone was trolling me on twitter, I'd block them and simply not read it.
And can I add that an IP address relates to a computer, not a person.
On 6 Feb 2015 at 12:53pm Xplorer1 wrote:
Captain Oates: you exemplify the problem. At least explain and justify your abusive response.
Trooper: how do I know I won’t like it UNTIL I read it?
Old Bloke: I think you omitted “Guardian-reading” and “DFL” from your characterisation. Why do you equate believing that we should treat each other respectfully with being a drip?
On 6 Feb 2015 at 1:22pm Ed Can Do wrote:
I think people forget that on a public internet forum, you are potentially in contact with anyone in the world and with such a large potential userbase, there are bound to be people with differing ideas as to what is joking and what is bullying. I would suggest that if a certain site contains stuff you aren't comfortable with that you avoid that site and find one more suited to your needs. This site is virtually unmoderated, meaning that only borderline illegal stuff will ever get deleted. I'm not saying whether I agree with that or not but if I was actually upset by anything anyone said about me here I would find a different, more moderated forum to post on. The easiest way to avoid abuse on the internet is to not respond to it and vote with your fingers by going somewhere else.
It's a bit like if you weren't comfortable around crowds of drunken youths would you demand that West Street in Brighton was completely changed so you cuold walk down there on a Friday night or would you just go another route? Sure there are some people who would demand the former but the majority of reasonable people would do the latter and just avoid the situation in the first place.
On 6 Feb 2015 at 2:51pm xplorer1 wrote:
Ed, thanks for your reasoned and thoughtful comment. You're quite right, of course, but the trouble is that the West St analogy doesn't really stretch far enough. Sure I can go down Duke St or wherever if necessary in Brighton, but as far as Lewes is concerned there's only one street - this forum. There's no other I know of for the town. I don't feel bullied or intimidated by the Neanderthal behaviour on here, but I'd be surprised if no one did. As I said, it's more how dispiriting, offensive and alienating it is on something that's meant to be a community forum. Would YOU consider it an asset of community value, worth preserving, to use a topical analogy?
On 6 Feb 2015 at 4:17pm Ed Can Do wrote:
If it were my forum, I would do away with the maximum post limit in threads as this means a string of jokey or nonsense posts can stop people actively joining in a discussion. I'd probably introduce some light moderation too, just a couple of fairly sensible people to recognise when posts are complete spam and delete them.
I think the content here is actually pretty good for an unmoderated internet forum. Despite the slightly predictable and repetative posts from certain people, this is still a good source of information and discussion. As the site has become more popular over the years though I think the traffic has outgrown the forum software being used and something that allowed sub-forums might help, meaning the endless back-and-forth between Paul Newman and everyone else would be contained to one spot out of the way. Don't get me wrong, I enoy the political stuff here as much as anyone but I can see how it might put a new poster off a bit and if general query posts were all in a separate sub-forum people might find information they are after wihtout needing to create a new thread.
On 6 Feb 2015 at 4:37pm Bowers wrote:
Sorry about Oates, I would reprimand him but he went out saying he may be gone some time
On 6 Feb 2015 at 5:28pm xplorer1 wrote:
Very good, Bowers. He can take as long as he likes as far as I'm concerned.
On 6 Feb 2015 at 5:55pm Sussex Jim wrote:
The good thing about this forum is that we can all post under our assumed names, and our family members and business contacts will not be embarrassed or compromised by our comments.
We are living in a free country, and should be able to say what we feel. Webbo will no doubt censor any really nasty posts. But, carry on the friendly discussions!
On 6 Feb 2015 at 9:53pm Stiggle Bat wrote:
Sussex Jim you really are a Daft Apeth..
On 7 Feb 2015 at 7:44am Apeth wrote:
. It's halfpenny worth shortened to H'apeth. That's 2 farthings in old money. Good phrase should be used more often
On 7 Feb 2015 at 2:20pm Twatter wrote:
So not being on twitter and not feeling bullied btw , what's the point of twitter ? We lived without it for so long .why do we need to tell the world , I'm aving a chippe tea, from where I sit I have seen no benefits just agro all the way , it's just all so desperate that little nagging voice in your head saying tell everyone what your up to to make yourself feel good and look good , anyway must dash , off to my yacht in the south of France for the weekend ,
On 7 Feb 2015 at 2:27pm Cooper7 wrote:
I trolled once
On 7 Feb 2015 at 5:05pm Lotus7 wrote:
I think Captain Oates would have something to call you
On 8 Feb 2015 at 2:57am Stiggle Bat wrote:
Me Nann was full of those odd sayings that are slowly being lost..