On 4 Oct 2018 at 8:59am Q wrote:
Regarding the WTO post below, if we are not members of that body we can choose to impose tariffs or not as the case may be and choose the level of those tariffs. Trump has shown that you can do this even within the WTO.
Regarding chaos at ports after Brexit, why would we not be able to get medicines, food and goods from the continent after Brexit just as we do before. So far as I know the EU does not impose checks on exported goods and therefore all the "just in time" deliveries will continue as before because we can decide for ourselves whether or not the goods are checked our side and I am sure most goods will come from " trusted traders" and be nodded through. This approach could apply to Northern Ireland on our side of the border and therefore if there is a hard border after Brexit it will be because the EU imposes it.
On 4 Oct 2018 at 9:38am Dexter wrote:
It's really not that hard to enlighten & educate yourself by doing some reading.
Try Googling one of your own questions. It's a great place to start.
You might begin to find out what the problems are instead of pretending or imagining they're not going to happen.
Here's a link to get you on your way.
Check it out here »
On 4 Oct 2018 at 10:55am @Q wrote:
I was going to type something along the lines of “your ignorance of the problem is astounding” but then I realised you probably have just been listening to hard liners on the news simplifying the problem. As Dexter says do 10 minutes of reading that isn’t the news headlines. The fact that hardliners are moving their own businesses to Ireland should tell you everything you need to know. Importing medicines after Brexit is a good place to start reading.
On 4 Oct 2018 at 12:00pm Educate yourself wrote:
1) Trumps actions have led to complaints to the WTO. The process is underway as Trump has not abided by the rules of trade.
2) If we decide not to check imports from EU then we have to do the same for other countries under WTO rules. I thought we were regaining control of our borders, not deciding to throw them open to everyone else to trade? That’s why the EU would establish a border between NI/ROI, if they didn’t they would have to throw their borders open for all.
Ask anyone who manufactures or produces anything in UK whether they think every country in the world being able to import any goods they like free of tariffs to UK is a good idea?
Probably just trolling given your 'Q' moniker but worth correcting to stop anyone believing your drivel for even a minute.
On 4 Oct 2018 at 6:10pm Clifford wrote:
Educate yourself wrote: '... the EU would establish a border between NI/ROI, if they didn’t they would have to throw their borders open for all.'
Are you saying the EU is a Eurocentric protectionist project? What happened to the 'internationalism' we keep hearing about?
On 4 Oct 2018 at 6:57pm Q wrote:
Dexter, your sarcasm speaks volumes about your inability to counter what I have said and the Guardian article does not address my point that it will be up to the British government whether or not we impose checks at the point of import, the EU will not check at the point of export. Similarly with all perishable goods and just in time deliveries. I'd like to hear actual arguments against rather than knee jerk Remain response.
On 4 Oct 2018 at 7:18pm Mark wrote:
I'm not sure that it would be reasonable to expect Dexter to drag you all around Google like a donkey Q.
On 4 Oct 2018 at 8:08pm Q wrote:
Thanks for your condescension Mark, I think we can take it as read that we are all familiar with that knowledgable gentleman.
On 4 Oct 2018 at 8:14pm Q wrote:
You all seem terrified of somebody simplifying this business. Why?
On 4 Oct 2018 at 9:26pm @Q wrote:
Oh the irony “take back control of our borders” by having open borders. The issues are explained above, just take the time to read them and think them through.
On 5 Oct 2018 at 10:10am @Clifford wrote:
No Clifford, I'm saying that as the EU is a member of the WTO it needs to abide by WTO rules. If the EU allowed an open border with respect to UK it would be obliged to do so for all other countries under WTO rules.
The same applies for all members of the WTO (UK included hopefully when we leave EU), it is nothing to do with EU policy.
On 5 Oct 2018 at 11:03am Mark wrote:
Apologies Q. I get a bit overempassioned at times.
On 5 Oct 2018 at 11:07am Clifford wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. Not often it happens on here.
On 5 Oct 2018 at 9:31pm Afl wrote:
Seems to me that so many people having opinions and soon after posting them for all and sundry to read. Have about as much reason to believe themselves as the "flat earthers" in that all theire knowledge is purely built upon attempts to have a fictional, idiotic, based on no merit way of making things far worse than that actually need to be. Purely because they cannot be seen to be wrong..
On 6 Oct 2018 at 11:42am Theire must be a wrote:
Final Solution to Brexit.