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On 21 Nov 2014 at 5:34am the kronic wrote:
Congratulations UKIP, absolutely stormed Rochester. Can't wait until May.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 7:58am Metatron wrote:
Libdems 5 th place. What happened to
I agree with Nick.
Lets all see if the political elite now start to get it. Like them or loath them but UKIP"s success can only open up what has been a very one-sided closed debate with the political class now having to listen to the people not telling them.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 8:09am UKRAP wrote:
Eat my soup UKIP racist scum.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 8:11am historian wrote:
the last Cenus in 2011 was available in 57 languages, just to be sure the population could understand it. Maybe in 2022 that number maybe be able to be reduced !! Nigel will sort it !!
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 8:30am The Old Politics wrote:
As four times as many immigrants are from outside the EU as within it , why does the EU get the blame for Blair`s plot to abolish England with mass immigration.
EU migrants come here to work make a net contribution to the exchequer and staff such wonderful paces as Sports Direct where left parents can be found stocking up on cheap football boots on most days.
The same cannot be said for the illiterate non English speaking problem immigration New Labour encouraged.
We can solve this without committing economic hari kari and leaving the EU . NOnetheless let us hope the smug arrogant 'progressive' minority and the BBC understand whose fault this is.

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On 21 Nov 2014 at 8:51am Patriotic Voice wrote:
UKIP. Fascism in a blazer with a pint in it`s hand.So you prefer UKIP to the BNP.Fair enough.The future belongs to fascism.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 9:31am The Old Politics wrote:
That -Patriotic Voice-is exactly the sort of stupid remark that just irritates the perfectly decent people who vote UKIP. It is not a Fascist Party it is founded on a defence of the constitution not a revolution against it. It is an heir to laissez Fair Liberalism not the vaguely collectivist Fascist Parties.
People who know nothing might observe a period of silence and certainly refrain from being rude to others who choose to vote for an entirely respectable and democratic Party with a valid (if wrong ) point of view.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 10:31am Southover Queen wrote:
I do think the results in Rochester are revealing: Labour's gaffe does exemplify their problems with their core electorate, and all of the "mainstream" parties are really struggling with the conundrum of attacking UKIP's "policies" without accusing their voters of being stupid. The problem is that while UKippers probably are registering protests against the "Westminster establishment" they are clearly cherry-picking single policies which resonate for them personally. They don't really care that there is absolutely no coherence to the party's policy as a whole, and that's why they can't tell you why they're putting that X in that box. They're certainly completely immune to the cries (from all quarters) that the blame for the mess we're in, both locally, nationally and globally, is not a failure to lock down the borders.

I want to see a party which has principles whose policies arise directly from those principles; furthermore I want to see policies which are based on real evidence and careful analysis rather than being reactions to media driven prejudice. I do not want to see fag-packet ideas blown up into Party Policy, often popping up in response to some equally ridiculous "Policy" from the other side. It's like pruning a triffid: unless you deal with the root of the problem you'll just make things worse.

I'm beginning to think I might be Green....
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 10:31am UKIP Patriot wrote:
The future belongs to us.Foreigners out.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 10:44am English Eddy wrote:
Exactly Patriot
The past was theirs and they made a mess of it
Now the future's ours
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 10:47am Zzz.. wrote:
Things are beginning to look decidedly unsavory. The bigots are taking over the asylum. There's trouble ahead.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 10:53am Depressed Gardener wrote:
I took my mum for an outpatient hospital appointment in Brighton. The waiting room was teeming with people who were not speaking English. I think most were Eastern European. It was not a good feeling. I'm not racist but why should the UK fund foreign folks healthcare. It's not right.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 10:54am Deelite 2 wrote:
Personally I think Scotland should devolve and leave this stinking ship asap. I've always fancied living in Edinburgh.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 11:03am Oops wrote:
I did the same... and all the doctors and nurses were foreign. I wonder why that is?
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 11:34am English UKIP wrote:
Were taking our country back from the foriegners. England rules.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 11:39am Merlin Milner wrote:
About 1.8m Britons live in Europe. 1m in Spain. That compares with an estimate of 2.34m EU citizens living in the UK.
Do you hear about the Spanish whingeing about British OAPs clogging up their hospitals?
Discuss.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 11:41am my land wrote:
So happy well done u k I p great news for the people
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 11:57am Depressed Gardener wrote:
I'm sure the Spanish do moan about UK OAPs as they are entitled to do.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 12:09pm The Old Politics wrote:
About 1.8m Britons live in Europe. 1m in Spain. That compares with an estimate of 2.34m EU citizens living in the UK.
Do you hear about the Spanish whingeing about British OAPs clogging up their hospitals?
Discuss.
Spain likes retirees because they bring money, but its up to them to decide their own policy. Other UK workers in the EU are there for specific employment and their counter parts would e welcome under any immigration policy, certainly UKIPS
Labour have tried to to yoke this entirely different subjects together but rightly failed . It was only a ever a cheap trick
One way to have a proper and open debate about immigration would be to stop propagating lies that everyone can see are lies the second they look out of the window . I have lost count of the misleading articles in the Guardian claiming to prove immigration does not depress wages. Try telling any tradesman that.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 12:25pm ducatipete wrote:
Lib Dems only just beat Monster Raving Loony Party. Is Norman safe in Lewes? I have no idea who is DC's rep for Lewes.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 12:40pm No Bigot wrote:
Ukip are repackaged fascists. To anyone who thinks they are different, they are not. Their 2 MP's are just old Tories and their leader is an ex banker, you know the type, they're the ones that got this country in trouble in the first place. Just a bunch of middle aged closet racists the lot of them!
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 1:10pm Statistic wrote:
Reckless got less votes than when standing as a Tory.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 1:55pm Humbert wrote:
Lib Dems look to me like a broken party, Labour look to me like Tory-lite, the Tories are the Tories, and UKIP look to me like a parody but worse version of the Tories. Guess I'm either voting Green or not voting. Both are the only anti-establishment options I can see.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 2:00pm Metatron wrote:
I was wondering when the B word would come out and up you pop bang on cue ZZZ. Well done for missing the point though.
What will be your reply? I expect it to have the words uneducated illiterate, or even racist in it, or even all three. @ no bigot- try the Pells when your fishing.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 2:07pm Norton Norm wrote:
Bit Harsh Pete
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 2:17pm Purple rain wrote:
Norm , you are a one !
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 2:22pm my land wrote:
Depressed garden . most o a p living in Spain have a pension
and in not a little island . so keep up the great work u k I p. The party that puts the tax payers first
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 2:32pm Old Bloke wrote:
Emily Thornberry the patronising champagne socialist snob told us everything we need to know last night about the Labour Party - grotesque parody that it has become.
Her Lewes clones are in abundance on here.
Well done UKIP you've given the working classes a voice
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 2:39pm Southover Queen wrote:
I don't know about complain, but they certainly have noticed: there's plenty of commentary in the Spanish press about it. The coastal regions have a huge burden of UK nationals who have retired there and use (and use quite heavily) the Spanish national health system. I was amused to see Farage desperately trying to reassure those expats about their futures should UKIP manage to get the UK to exit the union - apparently he'll do a special deal so that they can remain, because, obviously a not-economically productive, elderly and increasingly infirm person is a fine addition to their country. I'm not sure what money they bring: most of them are on quite limited fixed incomes employing other Brits to do the jobs about the house. Does that sound at all familiar? At least the eastern Europeans who came here filled some big gaps, as anyone who tried to get a plumber or skilled builder in London would tell you, and contribute to the economy.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 2:44pm Old Bloke wrote:
How exactly can people paying their own way be a burden?
Where were the gaps in London for skilled tradesmen?
Strikes me you wouldn't know
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 3:12pm Metatron wrote:
Well done SQ you have made UkIps point of cheap foreign labour filling the gaps and bringing the pay level down with it. Simple rule of supply and demand more builders the less they can charge.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 3:13pm Metatron wrote:
Well done SQ you have made UkIps point of cheap foreign labour filling the gaps and bringing the pay level down with it. Simple rule of supply and demand more builders the less they can charge.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 3:17pm The Old Politics wrote:
At least the eastern Europeans who came here filled some big gaps, as anyone who tried to get a plumber or skilled builder in London would tell you, and contribute to the economy.
Oh god forbid that working class people should earn decent money! What Spain does is up to Spain.
One of the things I liked about lard arse Thornberry in addition to the string of mouthwatering Islington Properties she owns was that she found some ancient by law that allowed her to send her kids to a Grammar in Potters Bar
Obviously she supports UKIPs educational policies
I also enjoyed Polly Toynbee writing in support of the Mansion tax form her Villa in Tuscany
Corrupt slugs all of them but none of that means we should leave the EU. That would be sheer madness and as I am not a politician I can frankly say that until white van man man can spell his own name I not going to give a frack what he thinks either
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 3:24pm No Bigot wrote:
I love how UKIP supporters get all fussy when called bigots?! Well guess what folks, you are bigots, bigots, bigots, bigots. What's it like living in the 19th century?!
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 3:25pm Metatron wrote:
Well done SQ you have made UkIps point of cheap foreign labour filling the gaps and bringing the pay level down with it. Simple rule of supply and demand more builders the less they can charge.
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 3:27pm Old Bloke wrote:
Was all going very well until the last line when you joined he sneering snobs on here.
There's bee millions of people whose spelling was poor that were/are perfectly capable of putting clear thoughts into clear words
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On 21 Nov 2014 at 3:34pm No Bigot wrote:
I'd rather have a Polish plumber than an English racist


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