On 1 Oct 2012 at 9:22am Peter Pan wrote:
Strange how one night of music is considered ant social ,yet a week (and more ) of Bonfire is deemed as being O.K !! and before you all jump on my back I am not anti Bonfire (original Southover member ) Just an observation
Whatever floats your boat I suppose
Tired and Grumpy I live very close to Stoneham Farm
On 1 Oct 2012 at 9:45am Richie wrote:
It started at 8pm and was still going mid-afternoon the next day. It's also not the first time it's happened, just marginally the loudest and longest. Crap music too.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 9:51am Deelite wrote:
Since when was North Barcombe near Stoneham Farm? :-)
I live near Barcombe Mills and the noise was not onerous, in fact nowhere near as intrusive as some of the summer evening events held at the Barcombe village hall.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 10:21am Sleepless wrote:
Maybe someone ought to consider petitioning the landowner of Lower Stoneham Farm, Lewes directly. Is it Philip Nash?
On 1 Oct 2012 at 11:11am GhostBike wrote:
I agree with the poster. Bonfire makes a lot more noise and disturbance, surely?
Ah, but its tradition I hear you say. Well partying in a field has been part of British tradition now ever since the Isle of Wight festival in the late 1960s.
I would add that there are ways and means of doing this sort of thing without causing the obvious distress this has.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 11:13am GhostBike wrote:
Crap music, well that's all in the ear of the listener. Someone on the other thread mentioned Bon Jovi. If I ran a fascist state people would be arrested and imprisoned for several months for merely owning a record by that lot. And I am no fan of house or rave stuff generally, I'd add.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 11:28am Richie wrote:
Yes, it was in my ear...and those of my small children for almost 20 hours. It doesn't matter what music it is obviously.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 11:56am Miss Queen wrote:
I live in Queens Road and have noticed several gatherings in aforementioned field over the summer. I did hear the one this weekend and that was with double glazing.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 12:02pm I repeat wrote:
But Rock in the bog in the next field is fine though yeah?
On 1 Oct 2012 at 12:26pm boots wrote:
Yeah it is.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 12:27pm ear plugs wrote:
comparing an unpredicted loud music event in the countryside, with a completely predictable, if incredibly loud, famous event is just silly. I don't like the noise of bonfire, so I either tolerate it, knowing how long it goes on for, or just take measures one day a year to avoid it. Its called being part of a community. The problem with loud noise is not just the noise, but knowing when it may occur, and when it will stop. All the people affected, are not required to explain why unexpected upsets them, it obviously does, it was obviously rather loud than one could reasonably expect, and it is understandable that they may be worried about when it will happen next, and how long it might go on for next time. The person allowing his/her land to be used like this should not need authorities to explain that. If they were playing recorded music, I wonder if they had a PRS license. I am sure the landowner wouldn't want to steal money from any hardworking musicians.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 12:38pm noise police wrote:
so, depending on where you live the police will investigate. (see BBC link below) Since this is an ongoing problem, why aren't our local force investigating this. it would be a better use of public funds than creating constant expensive monitoring work.
Check it out here »
On 1 Oct 2012 at 12:42pm Tired and Grumpy wrote:
Whatever one thinks of Bonfire, it's a well organised event, both before and after. The clean-up crews go out early to clear up litter and torch remnants, and by 9am the next day you would hardly know it had happened. This event was antisocial chaos from start to finish. People's satnavs were directing them into local residents' driveways, where damage was done as vehicle after vehicle backed up and turned around all through the night. I don't suppose the organisers are going to sort out the tide of litter, vomit, condoms or graffiti that was left either.
For the record, I'm not a fan of Rock in the Bog, particularly since it happens at a time of year when I'm likely to have my windows open, but at least it complies with the terms of its licence and you can rely on it shutting down and shutting up eventually.
On 1 Oct 2012 at 5:20pm tiredandweary wrote:
Rock in the Bog is licensed, has clear directions/signs, is ticketed, has marshals, turns the music off at 11/11.30, etc. etc....
This had none of the above and was clearly a pain in the backside to anyone who had the misfortune to live within earshot/on driving route.
The marquee was massive, the site had portaloos and even at 7 last night, there were still an estimated 70 odd vehicles there despite the Noise Abatement notice having been served and the party clearly stopped earlier in the day.
This was not a gathering of some friends holding a party in a field. This was an organised event and someone clearly made some money out of other people's sleepless night.
On 4 Oct 2012 at 9:54am juliet wrote:
to tired and weary, get ur facts straight this was a gathering of friends. the portaloos were to make sure no mess was left else you would be complaing about that to. no money was made every one chipped it and if any was left over it was going to a good charity. thats what good old friends do! they dont make money out of each other. its not all about money. it was a very special reunion of good friends. get it right.
On 4 Oct 2012 at 1:23pm Still Grumpy wrote:
Juliet, even if any of this were true - and I can personally vouch for the fact that the assertion 'no mess was left' is complete b*ll*cks - the fact remains that any bona fide gathering on this scale (1000+ people, amplified music, alcohol for sale) required a licence, and that licence would have come with conditions attached (music off by a certain time, no nuisance to neighbours, responsible stewarding, etc). The fact is that none of those requirements were met, nor were the spirit of the licensing requirements respected - I don't think anyone would have complained if there had been no nuisance, even if the licensing process had not technically been observed. It is completely pointless to try and claim that this was a perfectly legitimate and reasonable event when it so clearly wasn't. I am quite certain, by the way, that you are mistaken in imagining no one was making a profit, although I appreciate that may be what you were told.
On 4 Oct 2012 at 1:55pm Hiphop wrote:
juliet wrote: it was a very special reunion of good friends. get it right.
And you know the name and birthday of everyone of these 'friends' do you juliet? And what charity did the leftover money go to?
On 4 Oct 2012 at 4:53pm anon wrote:
its true, no one made a penny, I personally just put all the profit money into Care International charity account. Sorry about the noise, cheer up, its over now, we are talking one night of disturbance in you life and that money will go to help less fortunate people who only know pain and suffering.
On 4 Oct 2012 at 5:25pm A Raver Writes wrote:
That's lovely to hear, anon. Good for you for being so public-spirited. I hope Lily the Pink is equally altruistic, though I somehow doubt that will be the case. Bloomin' businessmen eh?
And, yes, it was it was just one sleepless night (and day) across Lewes, but please, next time you feel the charitable urge, can you not just do a sponsored run? That way you will be a net purveyor of good vibes across humanity. As things are at the moment I think your karma needs a jolly good wash, so don't get too smug.
On 4 Oct 2012 at 7:38pm Still Grumpy wrote:
Again, even if any of this were true, which I very much doubt, this is exactly the sort of circumstance where applying for a local authority licence is appropriate. The point of the licensing process is not just to assess likely nuisance factor, but also to establish that the location and organisation of an event is safe and suitable. Having hundreds of people get off their faces in a field located between a river and a cattle farm in the middle of the night - even for 'charity' - is a really stupid idea, and it's only good luck that no one ended up in the river, in a slurry tank, ripped to shreds on barbed wire, or badly burned on an open fire. This is leaving aside the risk to the many children who were wandering around unsupervised - don't even bother to deny it because I saw it with my own eyes. In an emergency, you would have been relying on those near at hand to help - and given the distress that your event caused, to have done so would have been an act of charity indeed. Care International? More like Stupidity Central.
On 5 Oct 2012 at 11:17am Richie wrote:
Hey 'Anon', stop using 'charity' to justify what you did. It may have conned the authorities into letting you go ahead (and not be able to stop you once it got out of control), but it doesn't fool me.
Gathering of friends! Hilarious.
On 5 Oct 2012 at 11:34am Dave wrote:
For God's sake 'Still Grumpy' take a risk for once on your life, 'unsupervised kids!!!' whatever next.
'ripped' to shred on barbed wire' are you serious?
'badly burned on an open fire' omg it's a wonder you go out at all.
Beware! There will be loud bags in the streets soon
On 6 Oct 2012 at 9:17pm but seriously wrote:
oh grumpy what an exagerator you are and Richie there are millions of worse things going on everyday, sorry if we made some noise, but heh, it was all in a good cause, if anyone is speaking from stupidity central it is you, there were not a thousand people, but only 300, and all of them friends so private party no need for a licence, also it was musicians playing their music, over 1000 pounds was raised for Care International, the sponsored run was actually the week before, the place was tidied after, I didn't see any graffiti that wasn't there already and what sort of emergency can you have in a field, especially when first aid had been taken into account, there was even a real life army medic who was just back from Afghanistan
On 7 Oct 2012 at 2:50am nowthennowthen wrote:
Charity a la sir JIMMY, how's about that then
On 8 Oct 2012 at 9:29am Richie wrote:
"But seriously", whoever you are, if you had shut up at a reasonable time people would have let it pass. The fact is you kept the music going throughout the night and into the next afternoon. I like loud music and festivals, so this is not about that. You should just simply admit you screwed up - or you that don't Care about the people who live nearby (including a big chunk of Lewes).
I might hire a muck spreader and do a sponsored manure spray through the streets of town. Everything's OK if it's for charidee!
On 14 Sep 2015 at 1:29am StingerX7 wrote:
Interesting to see who really owns the farm... find it on this map of (possible) tax evaders with land in the locality, who paid £596,200 for it, but seem to be based in Jersey, but I very much doubt this has anything to do with Jersey cows, Jersey cream or just jerseys.
Check it out here »
On 4 Nov 2018 at 3:25pm Lee Ashurst wrote:
Hi we are a vw camping group can you contact me please on 07810887525 we are interested in camping on your farm for next year bonfire week around 20 vehicles possibly more we don't require electricity etc and will rent porta loos and happy to leave a deposit to reassure you we don't do any damage and leave your land they way we found it thank you