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Sack the strikers.

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On 10 Jul 2014 at 12:51am Tory Voice wrote:
Any public sector workers that strike this week should be sacked immediately. Cameron should propose in the next Conservative manifesto that all public sector workers should be prevented from being a members of a trade union, If they object, then let them find employment somewhere else.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 2:02am Marxist Voice wrote:
Business leaders who make a profit but don't pass on that profit to their workers as pay rises should be executed.
If they don't like it, they can go and try running a business in one of their right wing utopias - North Korea or Russia or somewhere, see how they like it then.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 7:06am drone wrote:
Although Tory Voice is obviously a pastiche of a sterotypical Tory bigot, what he proposes here is not a million miles from what Lord Snooty has promised after the next election
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 7:12am Clifford wrote:
Look on the bright side Tory Boy. At least you get a day off school today.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 8:13am Hank wrote:
Well said Cliff - that`s an extra Summer Holiday for him
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 8:53am Curly wrote:
Alternatively pay them a living wage, and make executive pay not more than 10 times the lowest paid worker, and then no-one would need to strike and we'd have a more equitable society with fair pay for fair work. While you're at it, stop tax avoidance which costs the country billions more than benefit fraud does and you'd wipe out the deficit in a couple of years without needing any cuts at all. But then the country isn't run for us normal people is it?
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 9:22am Clifford wrote:
Careful Curly, if you keep coming out with sensible things like that Tory Voice and his mates will start listening in to your phone calls.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 11:19am red ken wrote:
Tories. Scum of the earth.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 11:53am Ben wrote:
Sack them. I would love to have a job there, i am available to start today! I long to have the salary and benefits that they enjoy, not to mention the pension. Why should they be allowed to strike? They don't appreciate how good they have it.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 11:56am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I think Tory Voice is right, they should all be sacked.
When hospitals, schools, courts, libraries etc are closed, there aren't enough firefighters or paramedics, children at risk are left at risk, no planning applications are processed or food hygiene checks carried out, prisoners are rioting and escaping and no immigration staff are on duty so entry to the UK is a free for all, maybe people will start to realise how much we need our public sector employees and they'll get paid a fair rate for the job.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 12:12pm Tipex wrote:
I agree Annette. Perhaps Tory Voice would also like to volunteer to support the adults and children in East Sussex who have physical disabilities, learning disabilities, mental health problems, addiction issues etc 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week while he's at it.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 12:54pm Mavis wrote:
Has anyone else had a pay rise in the last few years, I know I haven't. What's so special about them ?
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 1:21pm The Twister wrote:
I don't understand why everybody gets so wound up about these postings. Tory voice is clearly either some kind of internet troll stirring it up or a mental retard.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 1:23pm Tory Voice wrote:
Public sector workers have very little market value, it therefore follows that they cannot command the salaries that they would like. Let's face it compared to bankers,businessmen and the real wealth creators they are the least important (the unemployed excepted of course) members of society.Whilst we may appreciate some of their efforts sometimes they are a pretty inefficient and lazy bunch as a whole. Most people could learn how to do their jobs without much effort. Most of their members, who will I hope not be striking today realise just how lucky they are to be employed at all. They would struggle to find a job in a more rigourous private sector environment.Which employer in their right mind would employ them!
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 2:11pm Zzz.. wrote:
What do you do for a living Tory Boy?
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 2:14pm Zzz.. wrote:
MPs have had a payrise Mavis. 11%.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 2:39pm tongue twister wrote:
What century are you in , Twister ? Mental Retard FFS . or are you TV . The comical thing about this forum is the way a poster can call themselves any thing - I mean The genuine guy , Clifford has some fool replying to his posts in the guise of Hank Marvin - obviously a "joke" about the pop group Cliff Richard fronted .Well I suppose it amuses some people
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 3:23pm Old Cynic wrote:
I'm not on strike today - I've not had a pay rise for four years and 1% last year - I work as hard as anyone in the private sector, but in a crap office, miles from anywhere doing a job no one else would much fancy. My pension is non existent and wont keep me fed let alone housed when I retire. I get 20 days holiday and don't get paid overtime - gold plated eh? I think not and there are thousands just like me
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 3:45pm supporter wrote:
at least you are above minimum wage old cynic some have to live on a measley 6.39 an hour.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 4:00pm Thomas Jerome Newton wrote:
The "I don't have a pay rise for years, why should they" shows what a number Thatcher did on this country
If people in private sector haven't got pay rises/pensions to shout about then join a union
There is a reason we have 5 day working weeks, bank holidays, paid leave etc in this country and it isn' t because employers liked the cut of the employees' jib and bestowed them upon us. They were fought for
And should you end up with no public service workers one day, see how well your health service operates then. And enjoy paying your hospital bills
If people complain about the very wealthy we are told it's just politics of envy
But to look a fellow human in the eye and say "a modest pay rise - I haven't got one, you can't either" is just malevolent, mean-spiritedness
there are countries where strikes are illegal but you wouldn't want to live in one of them
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 4:16pm Tipex wrote:
Tory Voice you are, like your party, utterly out of touch with the realities of society. Public sector workers generally haven't had pay rises (not even inflation) in years, and choose to work for the council in spite of the beating they constantly face from the misinformed. I hope neither you nor your loved ones have any disabilities whatsoever nor need help from social services in later years so that council's minimal budgets can be spent on those more grateful.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 7:22pm Tory Voice. wrote:
I have no idea why you lot are bleating on about this. We all live in a capitalist free market economy why should anyone be paid more than their market value? Even your beloved Labour party subscribes to the free market though they pretend not too at times.
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On 10 Jul 2014 at 7:59pm Oswald wrote:
Union Bosses got a 17.5% pay rise.
My theory on this is that a high proportion of public sector workers are institutionalised. They go to primary school, secondary school, 6th form, university and then into the public sector. This especially relevant to the education and health sectors which just so happen to have the most militant unions. These people haven't got a clue about the real world. They understand mortgages, paying bills and putting food on the table but when it comes to how money works, all they know is that it appears in their bank account each month.
Listening to their justification for striking on the radio this morning was beggars belief. I'm self employed, I can't afford a pension, I haven't had a pay rise for 5 years in fact my pay has dramatically gone down during that period but don't get me wrong I'm not complaining, I enjoy my job and i've managed to keep working all through the recession.
When the coalition came to power there was no money, the union backed Labour party had spent it all and some. To be frank things haven't been as bad as were predicted back in 2008, we've all had to tighten our belts and live a more simple life but on the whole most have us have kept working. The biggest worry now is that the Labour party get back in next May. They simply can't balance the books, they never have and the people who then suffer when the country goes down the pan are the poorer people who have nothing to fall back on.
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On 11 Jul 2014 at 1:40am Con Voice wrote:
Oh I wish it were more like the old days, Thatcher and her friends Jimmy Saville & Max Hastings - these are the sort of people we want dominating our newspapers again.


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On 11 Jul 2014 at 7:12am Grumpy parent wrote:
Will I get paid 60 as compensation or does that only work if my child doesn't go in ?
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On 11 Jul 2014 at 1:52pm bastian wrote:
Of course we have all been encourage to think it's normal to be left needing pay day loans to pay our electricity bills, why should any one get a pay rise in order that they can meet their daily, no frills needs. However, the rich shoul get all the money, and fine holidays, go to balls sipping champaigne, because they're worth it?
My value in this world far outsrtips anything the rich have or do with their time. Everyone who works should also be able to pay their bills and live in financial security. Anyone who posts otherwise on here is a fool/lacky to the neo conservitives/an idiot.
No one who works should need benefits as well to make ends meet-it's so obvious.
 
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On 11 Jul 2014 at 1:53pm Clifford wrote:
Oh Oswald, it would take a book to unpick your litany of idiocy. Just one word about 2008 - banks.
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On 11 Jul 2014 at 4:12pm Silver lining wrote:
If public sector workers are really so unhappy with their lot, then why not leave their jobs and get a job in the private sector....
Of course, they'll probably have to accept they'll get less holiday per annum, and probably little or no pension contributions paid by their employer, they may well not get paid at all if they're off sick, they'll risk being fired quickly if they're no good at their job, they'll have to work hard all day long, they probably wont get an early retirement option, they probably won't get the option of retiring early with a decent income on grounds of ill health if they suffer from stress, they may well have to do unpaid overtime, and they'll porbably not get a subsidised canteen, they'll have to accept that if they want a pay-rise they'll have to work damned hard to ensure their employer achieves his/her goals, they may well see few concessions such as paid tea-breaks, paid ciggy-breaks etc...
Oh, now I remember what makes a job in the public sector so attractive after all...
It's not just the public sector that haven't had a pay rise for years, many of us working in private sector haven't had any pay rise for years either, and many private sector employees have been made redundant with nothing more than the statutory minimum redundancy package even after many years of committed service to their employer....
Still, it was a much easier drive into work yesterday as there was less traffic about...every cloud.... ;-)
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On 11 Jul 2014 at 6:47pm Tory Voice wrote:
Millions of people all over work all the hours God sends and they still can`t make ends meet,many of them have several jobs to support themselves .These people are our main competitors ,they want what we have,they want our jobs. Why should we not work as hard as they do for similar rewards? Well said Silver Lining. Let`s be thankfull for what we have. if we want more money, work harder.It`s simple really.
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On 11 Jul 2014 at 8:42pm Oswald wrote:
Clifford,If Your book is as bad as your post then I'll give it a miss.
What you fail to under stand is that it wasn't the banks that spent all the countries money and then continued to spend more than what was coming in, it was the Labour party. The Credit crunch, caused by the banks, turned off the borrowing tap that the Labour party was relying to keep the country going.
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On 12 Jul 2014 at 10:40am bastian wrote:
I have worked in theprivate sector, it was corrupt, abusive and this was before a minimum wage. It is everything work shouldn'y be- a soul destroying, humiliating, poverty stricken exhistance that benefits only the bosses. Everyone should get basic working rights, we all ahd them at one time ,a dn now they have been erroded by those corrupt, humiliating, poverty treasuring bosses-who are neo con, great white males of the world. Oppression is their middle name.
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On 13 Jul 2014 at 2:54pm belladonna wrote:
So what Silver Lining and Tory Voice say about working in the private sector make it sound horrific. Why on earth would anyone want to work in these conditions - and why would any employer want to impose those conditions ? And why should there be a 'race to the bottom' for people to endure the worst working conditions? What's so great about that ?
Paying workers poor wages is self defeating for capitalism in the end, because they cannot then afford to be consumers. If the vast majority of people do not consume, capitalism collapses in on itself.

By the way - I work in the private sector for a global company that believes in treating its staff well and giving them good terms and conditions. People are very loyal and stay a long time, meaning a wealth of experience within the workforce. They make massive profits. And pay corporation tax in full.
 
 
On 13 Jul 2014 at 5:18pm Bricky wrote:
Private sector LOL. Yeah we`re the driving force in the recovery . If you wanna experience real old fashioned B`stard govenors get a job on The Building . I`ve just retired , and apart from some Council Housing in the 70`s it`s always been a struggle - But we build/repair /extend our own homes - That`s how we do OK. Same for my late Father- Crawley New Town helped him get on. Plenty of foreign labour waiting to work , the industry`s not one to be in .


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