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On 2 Feb 2017 at 7:17am Billy Bull wrote:
You supported Corbyn to be leader, do you support his view and his whip on the A50 vote? Yes or no answer please.
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 11:25am William de Valence wrote:
I voted for Corbyn but only as a troll. It was a cheap joke for us. We never expected him to still be the leader.
All your base is belong to us. Kek
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 12:53pm Zzzz.. wrote:
No. I've just resigned my Labour membership (and Momentum contribution) for that very reason.
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 12:54pm Bob wrote:
Yesterday was the day the Labour party died.
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 1:36pm Clifford wrote:
Bob wrote: 'Yesterday was the day the Labour party died.'

No, Bob, the Labour party died the day Tony 'I'm a straight kinda guy' became leader and the party stopped even pretending to be a socialist party.
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 2:13pm Sans Culotte wrote:
LEXIT..... Anyone that thinks that there is the slightest chance of of anything resembling Lexit under the Tories is kidding themselves. Labour amendments or not, the Tories ,as we face the cold winds of an economic winter, isolated from our main markets will bit by bit, erode worker`s rights and sell off our NHS to the highest bidder. Labour ,under the cosh of a hostile right wing press and without the parliamentary numbers under ANY leader to resist this onslaught,will be forced to stand impotently by, or will veer hopelessly back towards rightist or centrist policies to appease the media.These would be same discredited policies which were responsible for the dire mess that we find ourselves in today. Unfortunately many of those on the Right who voted for Brexit, will accept their much reduced conditions on the misguided impression that somehow they have "got their country back" .Even more deluded, are those who would place themselves on the Left. High on the Stalinist fantasy of "socialism in one county", rejoicing loudly that they have jumped out of the Neo Liberal frying pan as they are simultaneously burned to a cinder in the Nationalist Neo Fascist fire. BREXIT means BREXIT ,not LEXIT. It could never have meant anything else.That is why Labour was wrong,vote to trigger article 50. No good can possibly come of it. Our parliamentary system is broken and our current party system can no longer protect ordinary people from the predation of vampire capitalism.This struggle can now only be won on the streets, by mass civil disobedience and numerous acts of resistance both large and small.Parliament is basically a sideshow from now on.The system is broken.
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 2:53pm bob wrote:
well said Clifford!
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 3:13pm Sans Codpiece wrote:
Well said bob.
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 7:51pm Sussex Jim wrote:
A question for Labour supporters- why does your party keep asking you to turn out and demonstrate against "Tory cuts" to the NHS?
Why do you not demonstrate against the fact that during your last period of Government of more than a decade your leader Blair the millionaire did not pump more taxpayers' money into the NHS?
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 7:57pm Sussex Dim wrote:
Where am I? Is this Butlin`s? I do like to be beside the seaside!
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On 2 Feb 2017 at 10:58pm Local wrote:
What, no response from the smarmy ginge who appeared at election time?
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On 3 Feb 2017 at 9:25am The Greek wrote:
Sussex Jim, waiting times were at record lows and patient satisfaction at record highs in 2010, right at the end of the last Labour government.
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On 3 Feb 2017 at 2:49pm jokers wrote:
No Bob yesterday was the day the New Labour party died - you may of won the battle 20 years ago but the Bennites won the war.
As for the disgraceful poster in the labour lewes window calling brexit voters bigots and only caring about immigration - another astounding example of actual bigotry and nasty lies from the remainers and clearly accounts for why they get such small votes in the constituency.
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On 3 Feb 2017 at 6:18pm Lewes Corbynite wrote:
I voted Remain but the reason Corbyn called for this is clear. Labour MPs are overwhelmingly representing Leave areas. I still oppose Brexit though because of Trump.
People are now using this as yet another weapon against him. But he did the only sensible thing for a Labour leader in these circumstances.
Sorry I chose to give a nuanced answer. I realise right wingers need their politics in black and white.
 
 
On 3 Feb 2017 at 8:37pm Tom Pain wrote:
L.C. How about red and blue? How do lefties vote- purple perhaps,do you vote a bit for one party and a bit for the other? Did you go grey forandagainst brexit?
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On 4 Feb 2017 at 7:38am Billy Bull wrote:
Lewes Corbynista there is nothing nuanced about your answer and it shows a worryingly simplistic view of the world. Do you realise that what you're advocating is MPs being told by Corbyn to vote against their conscience, against their expertise and against the best interests of their constituents just for fear of not being reelected? Remember the referendum was advisory not binding, yet Corbyn did nothing to capitalise on that and avoid people being driven into poverty. The sooner he's removed the sooner Labour can go back to being an opposition.
 
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On 4 Feb 2017 at 1:35pm Lewes Corbynite wrote:
Labour is the largest political party in Europe because of Corbyn.
You can give all the excuses you like for ignoring the referendum result. Personally I am in favour of doing so simply because of Trump. But Corbyn had to make a difficult political judgement as party leader and obvious decided that an aspiring prime minister cannot ignore a referendum result. Besides this is only the start of the process of withdrawal from the EU.
 
 
On 5 Feb 2017 at 12:45am A Person wrote:
Oh do give over, Corbynite. JC has spent 35 years disobeying the whip; why on earth is the parliamentary Labour party going to stick to the rules when he won't? That should have been glaringly obvious, even to a halfwit. It doesn't help that he's also spent the preceding 30 years campaigning passionately (but invisibly since no-one knew who he was) to leave the EU. The sensible thing to do would have been to allow Labour MPs to vote with their consciences. As it is, they can blame him for doing what they think might be seen as electorally dangerous in other circumstances.

(Also, by the way, the constituencies of Labour MPs were fairly evenly balanced between Remain and Leave, with those in the north being Leavers and those in metropolitan and urban areas being Remainers. So it was very difficult decision even before JC waded in with his clod-hoppers)
 
 
On 5 Feb 2017 at 8:09pm Lewes Corbynite wrote:
People of principle will always be accused of hypocrisy once they get into power, simply because of the realities of being in that position. Nevertheless I respect the judgement he made and the way he is dealing with the aftermath.
I know the media wants to paint a particular narrative on this. Their bias is a joke now.


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'Reclaim the streets' Tom? You jest. The same procession year after year on one day, the same relentless brainless 'patriotism'... more
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