On 1 May 2017 at 2:43pm Person 1 wrote:
Around 1pm today, many ambulances were at the public toilets behind the premier inn in the car park, with a dog unit and an incident van; the man came out unconscious. Wondering if anyone knows what happened??
On 1 May 2017 at 11:05pm David wrote:
I was the person who called the emergency services. I was down in Lewes for the afternoon and popped into the men's toilets in the car park near the station and saw an arm sticking out from under the cubicle. The door was blocked by the person slumped in there. I phoned 999 and four paramedics turned up quickly and one climbed into the cubicle discovering two unconscious males. As I stood there (I was told to hang on as I had called it in) the paramedics dragged the two men out. Both looked dead to me but I heard the medics say at least one had vital signs. I thought it best to leave and asked the medic outside if they were junkies overdosing. He thought they were. At that point I was allowed to get out of there. Not a nice experience, a sad haunting sight to see those two men potentially dying on the toilet floor. I was absolutely amazed how many people must have used those toilets before me and ignored the obvious body poking out from the cubicle. As I was calling 999 outside a number of men went in and out to the loo and also walked off without mentioning it. A couple did but most ignored it. Maybe this is a normal occurrence in Lewes? I have no idea if these two made it. A horrible experience, especially as my family were waiting outside.
On 1 May 2017 at 11:09pm David wrote:
P.S. I stumbled on this thread while searching for any news on this.
On 2 May 2017 at 6:22am God almightly wrote:
But according to the forum ponticate drugs are good apart from booze
On 2 May 2017 at 7:51am Feline wrote:
There has been a batch of v strong heroin killing addicts in the north of England, perhaps it's now down south.
On 2 May 2017 at 7:58am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Well done you for calling the ambulance, David. I'm horrified that so many people ignored it.
On 2 May 2017 at 8:04am I know wrote:
I know you're trying to be helpful when you give money to the beggars in the town people but this is the reality of where your money is being spent. You're not helping.
On 2 May 2017 at 8:35am No to beggars wrote:
Exactly. Do these DO GOODER mugs actually think the dossers are going to buy bread and tea bags. No they go straight to the off licence and their dealer. SAY NO TO ALL BEGGARS.
On 2 May 2017 at 9:25am kim wrote:
Oh dear never mind, next please.
On 2 May 2017 at 9:56am Offham Rascal wrote:
I think this is shocking but all of us who are in the pedestrianised area by Boots, Waterstones and the other shops see these guys begging constantly, scoring and then going off and using. I certainly and as others have said above DONT give them any money, you aren't helping them. Why has it taken two of these men to overdose potentially before anyone does anything about it?
On 2 May 2017 at 12:00pm Sad wrote:
it is only by an accident of birth or environment that any of us are not in a similar deplorable state.There but by the grace of whoever or whatever, go any of us.There is nothing more ridiculous than the moral posturing of the fortunate.We all deserve a measure of compassion,life for many can be hellish and some have n`t got the mental or physical strength to withstand it.
On 2 May 2017 at 12:10pm Not sad wrote:
Or they get can't be @rsed to do a decent days work
On 2 May 2017 at 2:13pm Staniel wrote:
Horrific story made more horrific by the callousness shown by others at the scene and also by three or four people on here. Are people red-arrowing David for calling the emergency services? Thank god there are people like him around to come to the aid of strangers even when it means having those awful images etched in his mind. The glib use of 'us and them' statements is completely lacking in imagination when we all know they could be loved ones of any of us.
On 2 May 2017 at 6:04pm Daniel wrote:
Well said - it's a sad occurence
On 2 May 2017 at 11:52pm Clifford wrote:
Not sad wrote: 'Or they get can't be @rsed to do a decent days work'
Let me guess, Not Sad: You voted Ukip last time, you think 'Enoch was right', and you think 'What this country needs is a strong leader'.
On 3 May 2017 at 10:35am David wrote:
Just wondering if the down votes to my comment are from people who wish I had ignored the situation and not phoned 999? What if it had been a heart attack victim? When I saw the arm under the cubicle door I assumed it was a drunk tramp but still raised the alarm. It's very sad to see so little empathy for our fellow human beings both online and during the incident. I'm surprised to find no mention of what happened in the local paper, I guess both the men survived.
On 3 May 2017 at 11:59am Offham Rascal wrote:
@David, don't take it to heart there is an outrageous amount of trolling on this forum, almost to the extent of that poisonousness accounting for the greater proportion of content on here. I can imagine I shall subsequently suffer negativity, trolling and thumbs-down for pointing this out.
For me I can't understand why, metres away from families with children shopping, eating and drinking we in Lewes think it's okay to have class A drugs consumed in public conviniences? Is far too egalitarian? Should we live and let live to the point where people can be found assumed dead in toilets?
On 3 May 2017 at 2:47pm David wrote:
@Offham Rascal, wise words. No point feeding the trolls any further. You are totally right about the issues with the public toilets and drug use. I was only visiting Lewes for a few hours to shop and eat with my family. After a pleasant stroll around the town seeing exploring the antiques shops and having lunch the last thing we expected to see was this. I knew Lewes had suffered from this problem years ago, I didn't know it was still such an issue. As an occasional visitor to the town, I have no idea what the answer is but ignoring some wretched soul overdosing in a public toilet isn't something I would want on my conscience.
On 3 May 2017 at 3:11pm Get real wrote:
It is no more a problem in Lewes than any other town. Too many do gooders giving money to them though.
On 3 May 2017 at 3:29pm Offham Rascal wrote:
@get real, I think this particular problem is solvable though? This is a small group of easily identifiable individuals, the same guys in the same place all the time - that's my point. When they look like they're scoring and 'disappearing' to use, cant this be monitored on CCTV?
On 3 May 2017 at 8:34pm Medic wrote:
Both men are doing well !
On 3 May 2017 at 8:56pm Horseman7 wrote:
In that case Medic, I hope they will have the decency to seek David out and thank him for being the first in a chain of people who saved their lives.
On 4 May 2017 at 8:42am CreamCleaner wrote:
LOWLIFE. Drain on the police and NHS.
On 4 May 2017 at 8:43am Fed up of scum wrote:
Scumbags. Deploy Undercover coppers in the bogs.
On 4 May 2017 at 12:17pm Sympathetic wrote:
Well done to David for being so public spirited. You may well have saved a couple of lives which you can be proud of. I hope that they are grateful! I do have sympathy for some beggars but as I can't differentiate those in genuine need from others, I donate items to homeless hostels and shelters instead of giving money to people. It's never enough I know but I want my money directed to where it won't cause harm
On 4 May 2017 at 5:05pm Hmmmm wrote:
How long until one of these desperate junkies attacks someone for money ? Then there will be a massive public out cry. I urge everyone to STOP giving to beggers. If you really think you are helping then your very much mistaken. In fact you are potentially helping them to kill them selfs. I also urge everyone to ask there local councillor what they are prepared to do about them. Because if this isn't stop very soon you will have 20 then 30 then 40 beggers. This is a fact.
On 6 May 2017 at 7:10pm Belladonna wrote:
Why is everyone accepting the premise that the 'junkies' are beggars/homeless? We really do not know what happened. Everything said in response to David is conjecture, rumour and opinion. No facts.
By the way David, you deserve public recognition for your actions. Thank you for helping save their lives