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Phoenix Quarter

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On 11 Sep 2016 at 8:54pm OMW wrote:
Walked through the Quarter on Friday morning and guess what? Suddenly nothing has happened!
Apart from the loads of rubbish left behind by the so-called previous occupants (up-market new-age travellers who never travelled very far from the Quarter), and posters warning of asbestos in the buildings, NOTHING has happened.
After the years of negotiating, planning has now been agreed. So whoever the developer/s are - get a move on and develop this eyesore for the benefit of my town, please!
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On 11 Sep 2016 at 9:09pm Halfpenny wrote:
If they don't get a move on the next crunch will come and the whole thing will have to start again in a few years. Whatever happened to Charles Style and his holistic project?
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On 11 Sep 2016 at 9:27pm Haram be wrote:
Can I be the first to pin the blame on Brexit, Maria Caulfield and Paul Newman, not necessarily in that order?
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On 11 Sep 2016 at 9:41pm Halfpenny wrote:
And Corbyn Haram be. Don't forget Corbyn.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 9:46am Dave wrote:
Is this really for the good of Lewes?

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On 12 Sep 2016 at 10:12am towney wrote:
Can't wait for this to be done, the plans and photos look superb.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 10:22am Doris wrote:
OMW - Charles styles Bought North Street and Malling Brooks site,
In June 2009 he had his Planning Permission approved for Malling Brooks, 6 weeks later he was Bankrupt,owing the Irish Banks 15 Million. In February 2012 Santon bought both sites, they had to go back to Committee to extend the planning on Malling brooks as it would have run out on 9th june 2012.Since that date not a lot has happened,
A temporary small road,lot of trees cut down, a lot of strimming from time to time.The Residents that back on to Malling Brooks look out on to heaps of Rubbish GREAT EYE SORE,after 7 YEARS
So OMW - How many years will you be waiting?
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 10:37am Ed Can Do wrote:
Has anyone rung up the council to say they've seen bats/nightingales/newts in the Phoenix quarter? That should put development back by six months at least.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 11:55am Dweller wrote:
Those plans look exactly like New St in Brighton near the library and gentrified areas of Birmingham. What a shame - Lewes isn't a city, it's a historic town. So bored already of these 'quarters'. It's getting a bit cringey.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 1:46pm Homer wrote:
I'm still not sure what people think that they'll get out of this new development. Loads more people living in town resulting in more traffic, oversubscribed schools, longer queues in the supermarkets etc. It should help to support existing shops in the town but will undoubtedly result in higher rent. Maybe I'm just a miserable git who doesn't like change though!
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 1:50pm Clifford wrote:
Dweller wrote: 'So bored already of these 'quarters'. It's getting a bit cringey.'

You're so right, Dweller. It's a matter of get in, make some friends on the council, build the eyesore, take the money, and on to the next one. Style used to give parties that some councillors were welcome at. I wonder whatSanton did.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 2:28pm Towney wrote:
I was wondering how long it would be before you piped up with your pearls of wisdom Clifford. What particular stone have you crawled from today?
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 2:39pm on it goes... wrote:
more houses, more cars, more roads, more developments, more immigration and more destruction of our environment.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 3:22pm neighbour wrote:
Final permission was only granted in May, then 2 months to allow for any judicial review. Surveying work is starting in the next few weeks then demolition. I live very near and am very happy with it.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 3:32pm Horseman7 wrote:
How many Quarters can you have in a town or city before it's time to stop? Up to 4 - or more? Would they then become Fifths etc?
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 5:05pm It'll be finished before wrote:
St. anne's is - Anyone remember when they diverted the river ? I thought it was for the Phoenix Causeway at the time - maybe someone knew something about that land gained next to the Phoenix works
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 5:11pm Clifford wrote:
Towney, good to see you've finally got out of bed. Not a signing-on day today?
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 8:52pm Belladonna wrote:
No guarantees it'll look anything like those mock up pictures. The developers come up with a set of guidelines for materials and looks to guide the builders who do the whole estate in chunks. Weren't those pictures the ones presented at the first town consultation? Still can't believe that car park was approved.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 9:14pm Clifford wrote:
You're right Belladonna. Get the train to London and as you're approaching East Croydon you'll see islands of these dead leggo estates. Thy run them off on a photocopier and call it 'architecture'.
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On 12 Sep 2016 at 10:18pm Belladonna wrote:
I was on that train today and thought exactly the same thing Clifford. I'm not anti modernism but this development will be identikit, unadventurous and bland. Look at the awful new buildings opposite the railway lands and multiply that by 100s. And a pseudo industrial tower to celebrate the sites heritage instead of retaining the old ironworks which is now, bizarrely, to be moved to another site. Sad
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On 13 Sep 2016 at 7:22am Anticipating wrote:
Can't come soon enough - we need more housing, preferably sub 400k for local families. Hopefully they're not going to go all 'Chandlers Wharf' - which don't seem to be selling - has the number of people with 1.5 million to spend on a townhouse dried up??
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On 13 Sep 2016 at 7:28am Lewes Building Society wrote:
Salaries 30k x2 x 4 repaid over 40 years. No we won't entertain you young families, have you tried Newhaven ?
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On 13 Sep 2016 at 7:35am Jennifer wrote:
Chandlers Wharf has been heavily advertised where I come from and there's a couple who've founded a start-up in sustainable textiles who are buying two of the one-bedroom flats for their children. So don't think it's going to empty much longer.
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On 13 Sep 2016 at 7:46am Fred2016 wrote:
Dave, it's been an eyesore and depressed area for so long, let's get on with the project. Lewes MUST develop or die. It happened in 1920/30 where little happened and many areas became rundown. Then we had the 1960/70 decline of industry in the town. It goes in cycles now we need the up side. Yes they will be negatives, but that is true of any changes in the town.
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On 13 Sep 2016 at 9:19am Observer wrote:
"You're so right, Dweller. It's a matter of get in, make some friends on the council, build the eyesore, take the money, and on to the next one."
"I'm still not sure what people think that they'll get out of this new development. Loads more people living in town resulting in more traffic, oversubscribed schools, longer queues in the supermarkets etc"
What I always find interesting about these sorts of commments is there is absolutely no mention of the hundreds of people who will be living in the houses there. They presumably don't matter as much as people who already live here? It seems like selfishness on a gargantuan scale.
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On 13 Sep 2016 at 10:44am OnTheC7 wrote:
"Those plans look exactly like New St in Brighton near the library and gentrified areas of Birmingham. What a shame - Lewes isn't a city, it's a historic town"
Parts of Lewes are distinctive, but Neville, Malling and Landport look like they could literally be anywhere in Britain. good job you weren't around in the 1930s arguing about identikit estates, eh?
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On 13 Sep 2016 at 12:11pm Walrus wrote:
So, the buildings might look like buildings in other towns. Well of course they do! Victorian terraces and town houses in Lewes look like those in other towns as well, as do houses built in the 30's or 40's or 60's or whenever. Maybe we should knock them down!
 
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On 16 Sep 2016 at 6:57pm bastian wrote:
It's all brick, and thanks to the brick tax in the 1700s, you won't find many brick houses to copy in central Lewes. But that's just a detail when you copy something industrial form Manchester.
Height is still an issue ,and affordablility is a huge stumbling block. Lets hope it is all sorted out to the benefit of young local famillies who can keep bonfire going.


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