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On 18 Feb 2016 at 5:25pm Trevor wrote:
Local drug dealers dog off the leash and out of control all over Cliffe high street down to Timberyard lane, whilst she rides her bike. Shame that a very large lorry didn't appear!
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On 18 Feb 2016 at 6:56pm Streeter wrote:
Yes, I know the couple you mean. Both ride bikes and I have it on good information that dealing is not unknown to them. But 'dog off the leash' now that's serious Mr Plod.
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On 18 Feb 2016 at 6:59pm dealing wrote:
They are not known to me.
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On 18 Feb 2016 at 10:18pm Rosiecheeks wrote:
I was in Argos Tuesday morning about 9.30 and heard loud talking, it was a strange couple drinking tinnies. They were talking about their benefits, then another bloke joined them and was telling them that " it took time to kick in" that he wasn't going down to Hove to pick it up. Sounds like drugs to me. They were stumbling all over the place outside of Harvey's shop. They were wearing bobble hats and she had nose pierecings, sad drunks. Does lewes need this?
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 12:17am Jeff wrote:
I saw the woman dealer hanging around in front of the church in Cliffe High St this evening.
The police must know who she is and what she's up to, is it a containment strategy to let her carry on?
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 1:18am Jennifer wrote:
One nasty looking sort sitting next to the Nationwide hole-in-the-wall around 8.30pm, and TWO sitting in their mess outside HSBC opposite Paul Clarke. We felt unsafe and did not want to withdraw money with the homeless harassing us for it. Why aren't the police moving the beggars away from where people are?
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 1:31am 8 miles from home wrote:
All quiet in my town. Too many lefty's putting their arm around these low life in Lewes instead of driving them out of town.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 7:15am Mark wrote:
Dunno why you lot are complaining really. It's only what you voted for.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 7:58am Holy Jumper wrote:
Just remember kids, 3 months out of work and you would be one of them.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 8:22am notforthelikesofus wrote:
Tory policy cuts opportunity for employment and education for those most in need. Tory policy cuts mental and social care for those most in need. Tory policy cuts Policing to apprehend those committing crime.
Simple solution
NEVER VOTE CONSERVATIVE
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 8:45am Oldbutintouch wrote:
Being old, but in touch, I understand that our long-established mobile drug dealer has become so much a part of the establishment that she receives a traders discount at the bike shop (she covers a lot of miles, lots of wear and tear) and has been invited to join the chamber of commerce (her turnover exceeds most local shops) seriously, why isn't she stopped and searched every time she wobbles up the Cliffe?
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 8:46am Working man wrote:
Tory policy also allows people to take a pride in themselves and appearance; to get a job and support themselves, not have anything to do with drugs, any pay taxes into the system to allow the benefits system to help those who are in GENUINE need.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 8:54am Clifford wrote:
Working man wrote: 'Tory policy also allows people... not have anything to do with drugs'

You're sadly deluded about that. Have a word with Osborne and Cameron. And with the Tories who take a libertarian line on drugs decriminalisation.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 8:54am Mark wrote:
Working man seems to be a swallowing the "party of working people" line.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 9:29am Mark wrote:
Working man, you probably pay about a third of your income in tax, as do I. Google doesn't pay tax. The drafting of laws on corporate taxation is contracted out to accountancy firms in the city. These same firms then advise companies about their tax position. You and I will retire on whatever pension we may or may not qualify for. George Osborne will retire on a non-executive role at a multinational corporation.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 9:34am Mark wrote:
And you and I are encouraged by the media to get all wound up about a few hundred people in Calais.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 9:54am Dripping Pan Stan wrote:
Seems to me they need a bloody good shoeing. That'll move them on.
Anyone fancy forming a lynch mob?
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 10:23am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
The trouble with locking up a known drug dealer is that it creates a vacancy for another one to move in. The new one could well be worse than the current one, more violent, linked to crime gangs etc.
It doesn't make the problem go away. Where there's a demand, there'll always be someone happy to meet it and make money in the process.
The libertarian line on drugs decriminalisation can be the same as the pragmatic one. Legalisation and regulation would put a stop to a lot of the social problems caused by addiction: people wouldn't have to resort to crime to get what they need.
I'm not sure whether or not I agree with it, but I think there's a debate that needs to be had.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 10:59am A Person wrote:
It's the same argument used to oppose prohibition in the US, which didn't work in exactly the same way and actually built the foundations for generations of organised crime which continues today.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 11:25am Invisible (Shaking) Hand wrote:
Do we need more drug dealers for some competition?
Better cycling going forward, improve the dog's KPIs etc.
More focus on the profits for shareholders.
Seems to be working for trains, utilities & unis.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 1:15pm notforthelikesofus wrote:
Perhaps there should be a published league table to help citizens make an educated and informed choice in the dealer they choose to use. Under Labour far more drug dealers were able to sell drugs without users having access to quality data to make an informed decision. I'm pleased the Conservatives are taking a proactive approach to dealing with criminal behaviour.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 1:37pm Here all week wrote:
The regulatory body can be called: OffYourFace.
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On 19 Feb 2016 at 8:21pm Ali wrote:
I can't understand why people are in such a state about a few addicts out and about in Lewes. @Jennifer, you say you're frightened to use the cashpoint if there's a beggar nearby. I'm sorry but that's so pathetic; the impression I get from these unfortunates is that they're too undernourished and unhealthy to bring forth any sort of attack. Don't be so narrow minded and mean.
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On 20 Feb 2016 at 5:55am Baba wrote:
There are thieves everywhere.
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On 20 Feb 2016 at 8:10pm bob wrote:
Ali, I disagree with you. It's a problem that needs a solution. There is a potential for the problem to get worse if nothing is done about it. I don't understand your mentality to simply accept and live with this incredibly difficult problem. These people need help, not to be ignored. By highlighting the issue it may be possible to find a solution.
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On 20 Feb 2016 at 11:38pm Ali wrote:
@Bob. Sorry, I've given the wrong impression. I found the first few comments on this thread were unhelpful and unsympathetic to the people who find themselves in this situation. Compared with Brighton, Lewes seems to have far fewer drug addicts/homeless but I agree with you, let's try to help them (although I'm not sure how) instead of complaining about the one or two sitting near a cashpoint.
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On 22 Feb 2016 at 4:50pm Ed Can Do wrote:
No government past or present will ever do anything to stop big time drug dealers. In order to launder your drugs money you have to run it through a legitimate UK company and doing so without drawing undue attention to yourself means paying all your corporation tax. The public purse receives far more from drug dealers than it does from Google, Amazon, Vodafone etc. There's also no point going after small time dealers as get rid of one and it takes a couple of days for another to come along.

They also won't legalise any drugs because elderly, Tory voters don't understand that most drugs kill or harm far, far fewer people than booze and fags so legalising it will alienate old folk. Also legalising it means big companies with all their tax avoidance skills will take over the supply network, robbing HMRC of millions and finally if you take away the main source of income from several ruthless criminals they'll need to find something else to do and you end up with soaring crime rates and violent turf wars. As such status quo is maintained, an occasional miniscule drug bust is run through the pages of the Daily Mail to keep their deluded readership compliant and the police will turn a perpetual blind eye to anyone who is selling drugs but managing to not hurt or upset anyone other than their customers whilst doing it.
 
 
On 23 Feb 2016 at 7:38am Bong wrote:
Ed you are spot on with your analysis.


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