On 2 Mar 2009 at 10:45pm Roly Mo wrote:
I have just spotted two new shops in town today-one that sells Teddy bears and the other, seems to be another one of those that sells useless cr*p. And Tescos is competition for what, exactly?
On 3 Mar 2009 at 6:14am well said wrote:
bring on the tescos expansion. this town is full of over priced tat, i'm sure you'll find that a vast majority of there shop keepers are "ladies who lunch" and don't really need the income as their husbands have a nice 6 figure salary.
On 3 Mar 2009 at 10:10am Mystic Mog wrote:
Which part of Lewes are you shopping in 'Well Said' (aka sponge bob??)? I suggest you conduct a proper survey of prices rather than be a spokesperson for Tescos. Agreed there are a number of niche shops, but do not slag them off, they supply business to the town. There are also many good value shops in Lewes too selling essential items.
On 3 Mar 2009 at 10:16am Earl of Lewes wrote:
Allowing Tesco to expand isn't the answer. It's dangerous to allow them to have a near-monopoly. Reducing rents and ending the ridiculous parking charges will bring proper businesses back into the town.
I agree about all the twee shops. Who on earth needs a shop selling nothing but f***ing teddy bears? We need a toyshop, a proper bookshop selling new books, some decent clothes shops that don't require a second mortgage to buy a pair of jeans, another off licence and a normal grocers.
On 3 Mar 2009 at 12:10pm Roly Mo wrote:
Sorry Mystic, but where exactly are these "good value shops"? I can only think of Bunce's. Won't Tescos suppy business to the town?
On 3 Mar 2009 at 12:25pm Spongebob wrote:
"well said" wasn't me either, i can fight my own battles thank you very much.
Roly Mo is quite correct as is "well said", the town is full of tat and unless the high street bucks up it's ideas (and that includes that pillock David Quinn from the chamber of commerce) and starts catering for the "normal" person in the town, the high street will kill itself
On 3 Mar 2009 at 2:40pm well said wrote:
mystic mog, may i suggest to you that your crystal balls need a good polish, as the information you're receiving is incorrect. Personally, i can't think of any good value shops that have opened in lewes in the past 5 years. Can you? all the useful shops disappeard at the same time as the great london invation! strange
On 3 Mar 2009 at 2:44pm Hedwig wrote:
Quite agree, lewes shops are mostly full of overpriced pointless rubbish. BRING ON TESCOS!!!
On 3 Mar 2009 at 3:07pm MC wrote:
This thread has prompted me to list which high street shops my fam,ily use frequently, and find useful..... unique one-off shops or outlets for small British high street chains. I think that an expanded Tescos could eat into the profits of many of them, leaving them just that bit less viable. In addition, if more people (inc. people from outside Lewes) go to a Tescos that sells almost everything then they are much less likely to visit Lewes high street and spend *any* money there.... so in essense every shop in the high street is potentially threatened by an expansion of Tescos.
Whta I'm perplexed is how the people above can say we want as big Tescos 'cos the high street is full on little "luxury" shops. A larger Tescos will of course increase the percentage of niche luxury shops, whilst decreasing the number of "useful" shops of the type I presume you'd prefer to see in the high street.
Fur, Feathers "N" Fins
The Riverside (esp. Lee's fish stall, cheese and meat stalls)
The sports shop (Cliffe High Street)
The Outdoor Shop (Cliffe High Street)
WH Smith - newpapers, magazines, stationary etc
Forfars - bread
Monsoon - family clothes
The Shoe Gallery
On 3 Mar 2009 at 3:34pm pennypincher wrote:
Agree with all of the above shops except Monsoon.
And I think it's expensive...
On 3 Mar 2009 at 4:49pm Spongebob wrote:
But that's only 13 shops MC. Is that really good enough for a high street that runs from south street to the bottle neck ?.
You see, we have two shops totally dedicated to selling......CHEESE !!! there are FOUR opticians, TWO pet shops within 200 yards, countless hairdressers and antique shops and THREE health food shops of which two are next door to each other.
If the high street had a better diversity of shops selling stuff that is needed everyday, rather than attracting tourists and yummy mummys, then maybe it'll be better used.
As ive said, the high street in this town will become a victim of its own snobbery but everyone will still blame Tescos.
On 3 Mar 2009 at 5:00pm Lewes Laugher wrote:
I see nobody mentioned Bill's, which as well as being expensive and popular with the local would-be-bourgeoisie, has sold out to a Londoner.
On 3 Mar 2009 at 6:32pm Tesco supporter wrote:
MC what you don't seem to realise is the handful of shops you have come up with won't be effected by Tesco's, I doubt a larger store will have a Pet shop, Sports shop, Fishing tackle shop or any of the other 'specialised' shops you have come up with, people will still go to these shops for these items.
I also think you have missed earlier postings on these subjects or you'd also realise people need affordable clothing. Monsoon, The Shoe Gallery and Clarks will still attract the people that can afford them but not everyone is in such a cosy position! People love to go to a Fishmongers, Butchers etc. for their fresh cuts so I don't think the Riverside will be hit either.
I also agree with Spongebob, the towns shops are actually competing against themselves and causing their own downfall.
Why would anyone mention Bill's... I've never been in there, never really fancied the place but everytime I go past it is packed. What is everyone's problem with him, if they were really worried about what happened to the High Street they would be glad he is so succesfull, it is probably his shop that brings people into the town! Stop being so jealous of him, just be glad he has a roaring trade.
On 3 Mar 2009 at 6:46pm Bobs Your Uncle wrote:
I use Waitrose for groceries as I wish to consume edible food.
On 3 Mar 2009 at 9:02pm Hedwig wrote:
"family clothes" from Monsoon? My goodness I wish I could afford to buy my family's clothes from Monsoon and my shoes from Clarks, my bread from Forfars etc...we live in the real world unfortunately!!
On 4 Mar 2009 at 12:04pm Merlin Milner wrote:
MC I totally agree. Of course you were only listed the shops that you use (Spongebob failed to read your post properly). There are others, McKays and New Look sell very inexpensive ladies clothes. Superdrug, Boots also sell itesm that will compete with an expanded Tesco.
What may fail to understand is that super markets are NOT always cheaper than high street shops. Bill's is often cited as being expensive, well on a recent trip I found that some of his fruit and veg was cheaper than Tesco. Moorey's regular sweets are the same or cheaper than Tesco.
If some people want a convenient one stop shop for everything, then say so. I can understand that if you live on the outskirts of Lewes or in the villages, or if the weather is poor, or taking kids with you. However slagging off High Street businesses who contribute to the local economy just because you have not bothered to visit them properly makes your argument weak.
I shop at Tesco but feel that by expanding it will have a detremental effect upon central Lewes, especially in the current economic climate.
BTW Tesco supporter I bought a pair of boots for Mrs Mog at the Shoe Gallery sale for a price that would make Matalan look expensive.
There is internal competition, however that provides choice and lower prices.
However the parking scheme is an own goal for Lewes and this will continue to stop people from feeling confortable shopping in Lewes especially those who want to buy essentials.
On 4 Mar 2009 at 12:38pm Bluewave wrote:
errmm.. mckays and new look are "very inexpensive?" Sorry, I doubt that and a lot of others agree sadly!!!
On 4 Mar 2009 at 2:50pm Ed Can Do wrote:
New Look is very cheap, do you people never shop outside of Lewes?
I hardly think that shops like WHSmith, Boots or Superdrug have much to fear from Tesco expanding. Imean, the local trade will suffer but none of them are exactly small time local retailers are they?
As has already been said, the local shops that are actually of any use (The food shops in the Riverside for example) are often cheaper than Tesco anyway and it's just people being lazy that stops them shopping there.
Blaming the parking scheme is pretty retarded too. There are plenty of car parks in Lewes, I can't remember a single occasion when I've not managed to find a parking space within a five minute walk of where I was going and if people are too tight to spend a couple of quid to park then the chances of them spending enough to keep all the antiques shops open are pretty slim.
The parking scheme is a popular scapegoat used by people to hide the real problem, namely the hilariously high rents and the fact that there are fewer and fewer people living in Lewes who work and shop here any more. The more shops and offices get turned into expensive houses for stockbrokers, the fewer people there are in town and shopping, it's as simple as that. Lewes is rapidly turning into a giant, poncy housing estate and is in danger of no longer being able to support itself.
If Tesco want to expand, that's fine by me. I still won't buy anything other than basic groceries there as my meat and fish comes from Riverside, I buy cds and stuff off the internet for much cheaper than Tesco and frankly, I wouldn't be seen dead in Tesco clothes. The expansion will create more jobs though and keep the bus companies in business (Bussing in all the staff, if you can afford to live in Lewes on a Tesco wage, I'd love to know how you manage it).
I do wonder though exactly how much money gets laundered through Adamczewki and Flint each year. They never seem to sell anything so must be fronts for some kind of organised crime, right?
On 4 Mar 2009 at 3:59pm Spongebob wrote:
The problem is Merlin, the high street is pretty much a thing of the past these days. people don't want to spend hours visiting god knows how many different shops......a few bits in one shop, a few in another, then up the hill to get some cheese then down again for some fish. This was fine in the 60's and 70's but we're in 2009 now, people just want to get their shopping over and done with under one big roof.
If so many people are against the new Tescos expansion, then the high street will be absolutely fine but surely it must be allowed to expand to GIVE PEOPLE THE CHOICE where they want to shop.
I didn't see all this when another two Indian restaurants opened a couple of years ago. I didn't see people throwing their arms up in the air because it might force the existing eateries out of business ? or when another antique shop opened in the town recently ?
On 4 Mar 2009 at 4:53pm Bluewave wrote:
I wouldn't class McKays or New Look as very "inexpensive" to be honest. They are reasonable prices but not inexpensive to us normal working class folk.
On 4 Mar 2009 at 5:02pm Bluewave wrote:
I do shop outside of Lewes frequently, that is why i can say that New Look is not "inexpensive!" It may be to you but not to me (having to find £20-30 for a new pair of jeans etc is hard when you don't have any savings and each month your hard earned money is eaten up by the £600 per month for a tiny 1 bed flat in Lewes rent, bills, repayments, food etc) when I can go to Primark or George at Asda and buy jeans for around 14 instead. We both have good jobs but in the process of moving out of Lewes and also paying off a loan means we have to watch every penny.There are FAR cheaper clothes shops around then New Look, and sadly until me and my husband earn enough to shop there we won't be able to afford it (somebody mentioned Monsoon as being "affordable family clothing" what sort of world do they live in??)
But I do agree about the parking scheme however, people use it as an excuse to moan about everything and anything.
On 4 Mar 2009 at 5:19pm Spongebob wrote:
I can totally see where you're coming from bluewave. Can i just ask you, from what "inexpensive" clothes shop in Lewes does your husband buy his clothes from ?
On 5 Mar 2009 at 4:09pm Ed Can Do wrote:
British Heart Foundation?
On 5 Mar 2009 at 8:49pm Bluewave wrote:
We normally take a train to Brighton or Eastbourne and go to places like Peacocks, Primark, George at Asda, etc etc...I'm not ashamed, why should I be? but the fact is that we simply cannot afford to pay out a lot for our clothes and I usually find that the places we go are very reasonable prices and not-too bad quality either (although Primark is crap sometimes) I bought a gorgeous summer dress from Asda last summer, wore it a lot and its still in good condition and will be wearing it again this summer. Of course I wish we could afford to shop in nicer shops, I love Next and River Island but until we earn enough I won't be able to purchase regularly from there. Although we did spend a fair bit in the last Next January sales!!!
On 5 Mar 2009 at 9:29pm Pennypincher wrote:
Glad to see that someone else shops for clothes in supermarkets...
Have you been on the Tesco website and looked at their range of clothes?
And I think they are better than a lot of Primarks clothes...At least George from Asda actually lasts through a wash...And so do Tesco's clothes.
The George from Asda range was so popular that they opened a store near Brighton clocktower just to sell George's clothes range...
So their range of clothes must be ok!
On 5 Mar 2009 at 10:27pm Gary M wrote:
Does Mystic know you buy footwear for his wife?
Kinky boots wear they?
On 5 Mar 2009 at 11:09pm Bluewave wrote:
Yeh I really like Tesco's clothes, and Sainsburys too. Supermarkets have quite nice ranges of clothes, I even know people who are quite well off and who choose to buy clothes from these ranges as they are such good value and good quality. I'm a bit of a shopaholic to be honest and would love to be able to buy expensive stuff but sadly its not going to happen any time soon!!
On 5 Mar 2009 at 11:29pm Pennypincher wrote:
And on the plus side...Folk who were given the boot when Woolies shut (sniff)
may be employed at the new improved,bells and whistles Tesco?
On 6 Mar 2009 at 10:38pm aunt fanny wrote:
Dont worry about the shops we have got the car boot you can get almost anything there clothes, veg, books, toys etc. use it or lose it I say.
On 27 Mar 2009 at 10:33pm me wrote:
REALLY you guys cannot be serious, there are more important things than arguing who and where people shop, parking restrictions... surely!