On 1 Sep 2016 at 12:31pm ClarifiedButler wrote:
Just seen a job advert for a new French Bistro, by the looks of things roughly where Buttercup used to be...any insights?
On 1 Sep 2016 at 12:34pm Belladonna wrote:
Pastorale antiques are going to be setting up a new cafe where Buttercup was. A French bistro would be great!
On 1 Sep 2016 at 2:03pm Moo wrote:
More expensive tat...yawwwn
On 1 Sep 2016 at 3:05pm Hungry wrote:
French Bistro would be good but sounds like an evening venue. If they use the outside courtyard in the summer at night it would be lovely, they could have live music like they've had before for private parties. Not sure if the neighbours will like it (the noise that is) but it would be something a bit different for Lewes.
On 1 Sep 2016 at 3:25pm ClarifiedButler wrote:
Well the advert said 7am - 4pm shifts...not that typical of Bistros that I have been to in France but hey ho.
On 1 Sep 2016 at 5:49pm Sussex Jim wrote:
Somewhere to sample a traditional French lunch of French bread and cheese and a glass of red would be nice. But a a price peasants could afford.
On 1 Sep 2016 at 9:08pm Mirror wrote:
Speaking about yourself Sussex Jim......
On 1 Sep 2016 at 10:31pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I always thought a traditional French lunch was 3 courses and a bottle of wine.
On 2 Sep 2016 at 8:33am Dee wrote:
Love everything French! Can't wait for some fois gras!
On 2 Sep 2016 at 11:32am Raymond Blanc wrote:
Just looked at the job offer.
'A new French Bistro/cafe in a lovely courtyard in Lewes needs a Chef, ideally French, to work from 7am-4pm 6 days a week. pay negotiable.
You will need to have experience/ input in stock control, Menu Management, Environmental health procedures, health and safety. Required to be creative and to work well with a small team.'
Wonder how much they are willing to pay an experienced chef to work 54 hours a week (9 hours a day, 6 days a week). 40 years ago as a chef aged 20, with 4 years experience, I was earning £12,000 for 35 hours a week. They'll need to pay at least 30 to 35k but I doubt they will, they'll be looking to pay around the minimum wage.
On 2 Sep 2016 at 1:15pm Tim wrote:
I give it 6 months max.
On 2 Sep 2016 at 1:41pm ClarifiedButler wrote:
The part I love is "ideally French"...Basically what they are looking for is someone who can run a French Bistro for them whilst they enjoy the majority of the benefits (if it's a success that is). If it was me I would want at least £10 an hour. Raymond you are right that they probably won't be wanting to pay more than £7/8 maximum...
On 2 Sep 2016 at 2:07pm Ahhh Bisto wrote:
Quelle dommage. Lewes a besoin d'un bistro francais dans la ville.
On 2 Sep 2016 at 2:07pm Raymond Blanc wrote:
ClarifiedButler: Don't undersell yourself. If you are an experienced chef, surely you would want more than £10 per hour to run and manage their kitchen.
On 2 Sep 2016 at 3:02pm Quelle Fromage Rodders wrote:
£15 x 54 more like - where's the calculators we got cheap.
On 2 Sep 2016 at 3:07pm jdaw wrote:
I think the research is aimed at people with experience in the field
On 2 Sep 2016 at 3:27pm Ed Can Do wrote:
With the current national shortage of decent chefs, you'll struggle to get a decent Chef de Partie for under £12.50 per hour. A chef with the skills and experience to design the menus and order the stock as well as cook it to the kind of standard that one would expect in a decent French bistro you'd be looking at £15 per hour minimum so around the £35k a year mark.
On 2 Sep 2016 at 6:26pm Del wrote:
Thankyou Ed can do - my guesstimate was justified.
On 3 Sep 2016 at 9:52am ClarifiedButler wrote:
Wow £15 per hour seems way out of line with what I see on job adverts these days...The only people who seem to be paying that kind of money are relief chef agencies...particularly for pastry chefs.
On 3 Sep 2016 at 12:18pm notsogrumpy wrote:
Why so negative? Give them a chance - wouldn't you like Lewes to be a place that supports new, independent businesses instead of putting them down before they've even got off the ground? Lewes is really in need of some decent places to eat, maybe this will be it. Plateau is an amazing French owned restaurant in Brighton, it would be so great to have something similar in Lewes.
On 3 Sep 2016 at 12:57pm ClarifiedButler wrote:
Plateau is okay, wasn't bowled over by it.
On 3 Sep 2016 at 1:13pm @Clarified wrote:
Are you on the level ?
On 3 Sep 2016 at 7:48pm Ed Can Do wrote:
How many of those adverts are for a head chef though? Sure you can get line chefs for a tenner an hour but not one who would write menus and do the ordering or at least not one who was any good. There's a huge shortage of good chefs in this country, they don't come cheap now and if you find a really good one you have to pay a lot to keep hold of them.
On 7 Sep 2016 at 3:16pm TDA wrote:
I miss the Buttercup.
On 7 Sep 2016 at 4:02pm Belladonna wrote:
It's being set up by the daughter of Andre Soucek, who owns Pastorale and has bought out the lease on Buttercup. They will need a very decent chef though. I'm not sure they would get an dvening licence there, but probably testing the waters to see demand. Buttercup had occasional parties but strict end times because of the local residents.