On 16 Oct 2015 at 11:27am Noisy wrote:
Just so you all know, it is bonfire this Saturday in Lewes. Lots of noise, loads of fireworks, loads of drunk teenagers etc etc. Please be aware if you have pets in the area. Keep them in, turn the radio on and keep them calm.
On 16 Oct 2015 at 11:57am Just me wrote:
Im not sure whn it started to get so full of drunken teens. I got kicked in the face a few years ago whilst looking after a my little nephew
On 16 Oct 2015 at 12:14pm Hayley wrote:
Speaking of Bonfire, does anyone have a spare room to let out for the night? Responsible couple of 20-somethings looking for somewhere to stay to avoid the trip back to Brighton this year. Let me know and we'll find a way to contact each other
On 16 Oct 2015 at 1:34pm tobnac wrote:
On the subject of the Nevill. I presume firesite tickets will be available on the gate? I'll have youngsters who may be too knackered by 9pm, so don't want to commit to buying tickets in advance.
(and you don't normally get loads of drunk teens at the Nevill. On the 5th, yes, but Nevill is generally calm.)
On 16 Oct 2015 at 1:34pm noisy wrote:
Do people just give a thumbs down for the sake of it on here? Did I say something beyond the truth or say something to offend?
On 16 Oct 2015 at 1:36pm noisy wrote:
Tobnac you obviously have a sight issue or you've never been..
On 16 Oct 2015 at 1:41pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I don't mind the firework noise, but I really could do without Newhaven Marching Band passing the house with their damn xylophones or whatever they are.
On 16 Oct 2015 at 1:51pm Zebedee wrote:
My 14 year old son dearly wants to go to this. As about the only thing that has caught his imagination recently is the fact that he might be able to get drunk soon I'm inclined to refuse him. I've just read last years' thread about the event too.....
Check it out here »
On 16 Oct 2015 at 3:17pm belladonna wrote:
He'll only get drunk if he gets hold of booze and unlikely to do that with no money or access to someone who will give him alcohol. I'd take him and keep a responsible eye....
On 16 Oct 2015 at 4:31pm tobnac wrote:
Maybe I've just been lucky. I've been going since we've had kids and, though we've generally not gone on to the firesite, I've seen comparatively little antisocial behaviour before 9ish. I can well believe it gets messy later.
On 16 Oct 2015 at 4:52pm Just me wrote:
There is nothing wrong with getting drunk at Nevill if you can handle your drink and not act like a hooligan. Kicking someone in the face is totally unacceptable, and after speaking with the police it appears that they had quite a few issues that year. I did however do my bit and take the bottle of vodka off the girls after the kick... Karma
On 17 Oct 2015 at 7:52am Zebedee wrote:
Belladonna. Quaint of you to think he wanted to go with his parents!
If a 14 year old wants to get hold of alcohol he will. And many 14 year olds are not sufficiently mature to act responsibly, especially once 'liberated' by alcohol.
It seems our progeny is going now. I do hope the police are not caught on the hop again this year.
On 17 Oct 2015 at 5:33pm BOOM wrote:
I love Nevill bonfire. However. I have only just read through the programme (oops) and the route has changed dramatically. Why? They no longer walk past my house
On 17 Oct 2015 at 10:22pm Quentin wrote:
On 18 Oct 2015 at 12:14am Belladonna wrote:
So how was it ? I must admit I was put off going by shenanigans in previous years. I'll be marching on the 5th though.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 1:07am Nevill_Neighbour wrote:
If teenagers letting off bangers ahead of the procession, irresponsible mums letting six year olds shine laser pens in the eyes of people in the procession and watching children, more drunken teenagers than you have had hot dinners, a dangerous firesite with an un-cordened bonfire, and drunk teenagers fighting and urinating in your garden even when you ask them what they are doing is your thing, then it was amazing.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 9:25am HAD A LIFE wrote:
Get a life you lot. Who hasn't got drunk as a teenager. It's all part of growing up!!!!! Why pick on the teenagers . There are plenty of adults in the procession drinking from hip flasks and cans who are old enough to know better and have had a bit too much.
Let's all just enjoy it and stop moaning. DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 1:33pm Rookie Ron wrote:
No bonfires are ever cordoned
Fencing has been found to create more dangers than it solves
If you're too stupid not to know that fire is hot and dangerous and should be given respect than maybe you should stay in next time
Though I'm not a member of NJB I'll happily surgest that they put up signs next year just for you
How about 'Caution, bonfire maybe hot'
On 18 Oct 2015 at 2:07pm Ernie wrote:
Nevill Road 10.30 last night. Two girls urinating in the gutter being cheered on by several others. One male youth urinating in the bus shelter. Half a dozen others fighting and throwing bottles near Prince Edwards Road with one threatening to "cut you up". All witnessed by myself in the two minutes I was walking past.
All very nice family entertainment of course. No, it's time to knock it all on the head I think.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 2:07pm Just a parent wrote:
But why the route changes?
On 18 Oct 2015 at 6:09pm Another point of view wrote:
All this anti social stuff is not aimed at the members , so it seems otherwise I think that might have been said , so it's just kids being naughty any large crowd is difficult to manage with an over stretched under funded police force what can be done to keep these people in line , ban everything seems to be one answer , so they have nothing to do and so the circle continues , Ernie if you want to pay more tax or find a way of funding more police officers , then I'm afraid you have to tolerate this , I'm not saying it's right , just how I see it
On 18 Oct 2015 at 7:17pm Peevesy wrote:
I have to admit that as a teenager I didn't need the excuse or occasion of bonfire to get drunk and abusive , it just happened a lot. Luckily I rarely ventured into town and there's only so much damage you can inflict when you offer a tree out for a fight. But it would be nice if there was at least one bonfire that preserved a family orientated vibe where you felt you were just allowed to feel happy and convivial rather than threatened or full of contempt for people's behaviour. That was always Nevill's appeal but now sadly it isn't. I wouldn't take my kids there so they have to watch me doing my best with 50 quids worth of disappointing fizzes and bangs in a field.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 9:01pm My old gaffer wrote:
I took my son up and it was fine although he was surprisingly keen on holding my hand when walking home. There was a stray firework that landed in the bonfire society enclosure and someone must have been hurt. I hope it wasn't serious.
On 18 Oct 2015 at 9:33pm Daz wrote:
I too hope it wasn't a serious injury, saw the ambulance move off as we left. As has been said above the idiots kicking off don't need the excuse of bonfire to do so. We saw no trouble at all apart from shouting drunken youths
On 19 Oct 2015 at 9:42am Parent wrote:
Drunk teenager urinating in my elderly mother's garden (no respect)...sums up Bonfire entirely
On 19 Oct 2015 at 10:16am ar10642 wrote:
Living in Lewes and complaining about Bonfire is about as sensible as living next door to Heathrow and complaining about aeroplanes.
On 19 Oct 2015 at 1:03pm Another Nevill Resident wrote:
This isn't just a few spirited teenagers though. From about 8pm til well gone 11pm we had a group of 50-60, if not more, outside our house or near it, hanging about on the road. They were extremely loud, extremely drunk and using constant and extreme bad language, there was lots of broken glass, I heard potential fights kicking off. They were not local or involved with bonfire, as far as I could tell.
Don't get me wrong, I love Nevill bonfire and it is a great family and community event. but this doesn't seem to have much to do with it or its spirit.
On 19 Oct 2015 at 1:10pm Another Nevill Resident wrote:
I'd add it wasn't ideal if you have young children who are trying to sleep and can hear all this going on. Not only did it frighten them, they also heard lots of things that I'd rather they didn't!
On 19 Oct 2015 at 3:33pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I'm a huge fan of bonfire, but I do wonder why NJBS don't hire some portaloos for the evening. That might at least reduce the number of complaints about alfresco urination.
Bonfire is part (a big part!) of Lewes life, and rowdiness is part and parcel of it. I'm inclined to agree with ar10642 and suggest that those who hate it should maybe ask themselves if Lewes is for them.
And fights kick off at all sorts of odd times, not just bonfire, even on the Nevill.
On 19 Oct 2015 at 5:31pm Another Nevill Resident wrote:
I don't hate it, though ACT, and accept that rowdiness is part of it. I've lived in Lewes long enough to know that - and I love it for it. I've been rowdy
But it's quite anothe rthing when you as you are sitting next to your 6 year old trying to get them off to sleep you hear someone scream outside your window "i'll f**cking rip your f**ing head off if you do that again, you f**king c**t" and then throws a bottle across the street and then lots of people running and shouting in response.
On 19 Oct 2015 at 5:32pm Another Nevill Resident wrote:
I'd add, ACT, that I've lived in the NEvill for over a decade and all this seems to be quite new to the last couple of years.
On 19 Oct 2015 at 5:54pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
We had similar screaming, shouting, swearing with the added feature of vandalism to cars and a man who went out to remonstrate with the culprits being assaulted for his troubles in my road on the Nevill some years ago.
This was on a July evening, and nothing to do with bonfire: all to do with parents away for the weekend. The sort of behaviour you refer to is, regrettably, not uncommon in any part of town on a weekend.
And your 6 year old quite probably knows those words already, unless you educate him/her at home. Not nice, I agree, but far from unusual. In fact, the f-word can be heard any weekend when it's warm enough for my neighbours to have their windows open.
On 19 Oct 2015 at 7:12pm Daz wrote:
It's certainly not unique behaviour to bonfire sadly.
On 19 Oct 2015 at 7:33pm Another Nevill Resident wrote:
Act. If it had been one isolated incident, yes, I wouldn't have been too bothered. I am, however, taking about 50 or 60 drunk teenagers outside your house for several hours, with those sorts of incidents going on every few minutes. They were nowhere near the procession or the firesite. The police did come up, they scattered, only to return a few minutes later with more loud shouting, swearing, breaking glass etc.
On 20 Oct 2015 at 1:00pm Mr Softy wrote:
It's not bonfire that is the problem here, it is that scourge of the western world alcohol. An insidious drug if ever there was one. The harm that it does to families, human relations in general, and the after-dark ambience of our towns and cities should not be underestimated.