On 25 Apr 2015 at 8:39am puzzled wrote:
Can some people really communicate with the dead or is it a big con. I watched a chap called Colin Fry on the t/v the other day and he seemed really genuine. Apparently he has been around for many years so surely if it was a con he would have been sussed by now.
On 25 Apr 2015 at 10:12am Horseman7 wrote:
I think perhaps people sometimes believe what they want to believe and this can be a source of comfort.
On 25 Apr 2015 at 11:47am Rosie Lee wrote:
I knew you were going to post that puzzled
On 25 Apr 2015 at 11:53am Monkees wrote:
I'm a believer
On 25 Apr 2015 at 6:02pm Happy medium wrote:
Your dead Mum says give me all your money.
On 25 Apr 2015 at 7:02pm skeptical green wrote:
I've always thought it odd that there is a criminal offence of acting as a 'false medium' when it is perfectly obvious that the whole thing is rubbish. They are either charlatans or deluded people.
On 25 Apr 2015 at 9:45pm clear seer wrote:
I had a message for someone once - it came straight through and the person recognised who it was when I described who it was from. So it can be done. Why people say it can't happen I don't know.
On 25 Apr 2015 at 9:47pm puzzled wrote:
Hi skeptical, why is it perfectly obvious that the whole thing is rubbish, personally I dont believe in God and yet men marvel at the latest gadgets that are man made and yet a tiny inconspicious seed is more complex than any gadget made by man. You plant it in the ground and it takes the shape size colour and smell from the soil, this in itself is a miracle so I never completely refuse to believe in anything I know nothing about just in case.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 2:11am belladonna wrote:
Nature is amazing but to be clear -seeds, like humans, have all the information needed to grow stored in their genetic coding - dna. The soil just feeds it, it doesn't give it its shape,size colour, etc.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 7:31am puzzled wrote:
Then its even more amazing belladonna, all that stored in such a small object. Mind you I would not like to compare the dna in humans on the same par, seeds nearly always produce things of beauty but the same cant be said of humans.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 11:08am skeptical green wrote:
When someone dies the electrical and chemical activity in their brain that gives rise to what we call thought ceases. The structures that allowed this activity to occur break down along with the structures of the rest of the body. These are the things that go to form what we call a person. Once those parts cease to be organised into the structures that constitute that person, that person no longer exists. After that point there is nothing to communicate with. Physics I am afraid trumps wishful thinking. The only often rather beautiful sense in which the dead person exists is in our memories of them, which for the loved ones left behind is their wonderful parting gift. Some will say this is a sterile or emotionless view of life and death, but rationalists like myself are not without appreciation of beauty or wonder at the universe. The fact that my constituent elements return in the short term to the ecosystems of our planet and are incorporated into new objects, plants and animals is a perfectly meaningful and for me satisfying thought. In the longer term we are all dust from stars and when our sun becomes a red giant at the end of its life and scatters what had been our atoms into the cosmos again we will be star dust again and that's wonder enough for me.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 11:18am puzzled wrote:
If thats true its hardly worth carrying on.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 12:14pm Pingu wrote:
Don't knock it! There are hundreds of people who have benefited from hearing 'messages' from departed loved ones through a 'medium', it gives them answers and more importantly, somewhere where they can finally let go and move on with their lives. it's easy to diss the industry when you are at peace with yourself and can think logically and rationally, but when you are clearly in a desperate place through bereavement or ill health, it can be an uplifting therapy.
I think the industry needs tight legislative control, though. There's a difference between vulnerability and downright stupidity, and it's the vulnerable that need protecting from 'mediums' out to rip people off.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 12:23pm skeptic wrote:
That was an extraordinary post Skeptical Green. Puzzled, there is every reason to carry on. We have this privilege of living - for a while - on a beautiful planet.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 3:16pm trooper wrote:
There is only one way to describe this type of "con" and that is
MUMBO JUMBO" Only the deluded and the desperate and the ignorant can believe that anyone can communicate with the dead.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 3:57pm Mark wrote:
Skeptical Green is astonishingly clever, I've often thought. I'm jealous of him/her.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 4:44pm Doctorate wrote:
SG is probably a Professor in Brighton
On 26 Apr 2015 at 8:06pm Clifford wrote:
Skeptical Green - best post I've read on here for some time. Partly because I agree with it, partly because it's so well expressed. My best wishes to you.
On 26 Apr 2015 at 10:27pm belladonna wrote:
wonderful post skeptical green. We are stardust. That's enough for an old hippy like me !!!
On 27 Apr 2015 at 1:20am mickyboy wrote:
one of my daughters once went to a medium at a village hall in chailey, she was given two messages for me, as very few people were aware she was my daughter and even less knew of the family connections I was surprised, the answers were surprisingly relevant as I have never discussed either matter with my daughter. but were they correct, I would like to think so.
On 27 Apr 2015 at 7:26am puzzled wrote:
Hi Skeptical Green, it appears that thanks to my post you have some groupies. Rock on.
On 27 Apr 2015 at 7:41am On Balance wrote:
or according to some, unbalanced - but I side with you puzzled.
On 27 Apr 2015 at 12:42pm Cold Reader wrote:
I'm afraid I side with Trading Standards on this one. Entertainment Purposes Only.
On 27 Apr 2015 at 3:23pm Badger wrote:
Funny, I found Skeptical Green's post to be astonishingly blinkered and outdated... but maybe that's because I don't get my science 'knowledge' from Brian Cox or Richard Dawkins.
Anybody (and I'm not necessarily levelling this at SG in this case) who can state categorically that science has all the answers has just bought into the latest 'religion'. Science is a tool, not a belief system.
On 27 Apr 2015 at 6:54pm Cold Reader wrote:
You may be right Badger, but 'Psychics' are reliant on the scienctific basis of cold reading, radio transmitters and pscychology to exploit the vulnerable.