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On 26 Sep 2016 at 5:36pm BeeCee wrote:
Really inspiring debates, there is finally hope.
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On 26 Sep 2016 at 7:40pm Towney wrote:
Now I don't subscribe to any political party as they're all a bunch of crooks, but can anyone see Labour getting into power all the time Michael Foot, sorry, Jeremy Corbyn is at the helm? I honestly wish there was a decent shadow government to push the criminals, sorry, Tories but Corbyn has put labour back 10 years. The Tories must be laughing their backsides off.
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On 26 Sep 2016 at 7:55pm BeeCee wrote:
I appreciate your views Towney. I encourage you to read Labour party policy and tell me what you don't agree with. Debate is healthy.
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On 26 Sep 2016 at 8:15pm Earl of Lewes wrote:
There's only hope when the wider public feel inspired by these debates. At the moment, there's no evidence to suggest that people outside the echo chamber of Momentum think Corbyn's a credible leader. It's interesting how politics, which was once controlled by the middle ground, is now dominated by two polar opposites - the hard left and the UKIP/Tory right. I think that any political wing that puts ideology above pragmatism is suspect.
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On 26 Sep 2016 at 8:19pm Mark wrote:
Err... umph... Towney... BeeCee's comment related to things that were actually said today rather than school-boyish, playground posturing. Give John Macdonnell an actual listen and then try again.
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On 26 Sep 2016 at 8:54pm Nibbles wrote:
The media has done everything it can to deride Jeremy Corbyn. He is treated with such contempt by so many people, and for many, they don't seem to actually know why, or just use worn terminology like "hard-left wing". Then you will also often hear passive-aggressive, patronising and condescending remarks about "he seems a good man though" or that he is "principled". Most people had never heard of the bloke a year ago, and they are just buying into the medias agenda. Its amusing listening to the vox pops that TV news outlets do when they ask the public about him, as it shows people are just parroting terminology that the mainstream media uses about Corbyn almost daily. Its so trite now, I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this brainwashing and realised their opinions may not actually be genuinely their own and have a warped perception.

I understand this is how politics often works, but I think people should actually try to get to know what Corbyns Labour is trying to say, rather than just knock the individual at the helm. So far, there is nothing that I have noted that is particularly "radical" about Corbyns policies - nothing extraordinarily risky our "out of the box". I've not pinned my next vote on Labour yet, but everyone should consider all main political parties with an open mind and not be drawn into hyperbole, agendas and spin.
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On 26 Sep 2016 at 11:11pm Hyena wrote:
I predict ' conversations ' debates , committee meetings, branch meetings, meetings of the National executive, more debate, more conversations , more meetings ,promises, assurances, rhetoric, blood letting, feuding , backstabbing, recrimination , splits , appeasement .
I also predict there will be no Labour Government for the foreseeable future.
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 12:55pm Hyena wrote:
Nibbles, 'I've not pinned my next vote on Labour yet'
Do me a favour.
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 1:40pm Nibbles wrote:
Hyena : "Do me a favour"

Ummm plug me into a Sega? I don't really know how to respond to this kind of incredulity from total strangers. I voted Liberal Democrats in 2010 and 2015, so I guess you can now make further assertions and generalisations about me based on this extra titbit of information.

My vote will be based on who I feel has the best policies at the time of the next election, no matter how much Breitbart London News and the Daily Diana discourage me with negative fearful propaganda and scornful cynicism about anyone who isn't UKIP. I actually quite like both Tim Farron and Jeremy Corbyn (as characters and many of their progressive policies), no matter how "unelectable" they may be to superficial people and the mainstream media. I'll vote with my conscience and take consideration and time in doing so.
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 2:08pm Hyena wrote:
Still don't believe you
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 2:14pm Nibbles wrote:
Uh huh. Why does it bother you so much who I vote for? Or are you just a bit bored and trolling?
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 2:16pm Nibbles wrote:
Uh huh. Why does it bother you so much who I vote for? Or are you just a bit bored and trolling?
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 2:30pm Hyena wrote:
I think based on your posts that your insincere , patronising and a hypocrite. Don't talk about generalisations when you assume that swathes of the British public have been 'brainwashed ' by the media.
Your typical of a lot of posters on this forum in believing that they have insight and see what others don't.

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On 27 Sep 2016 at 2:42pm Nibbles wrote:
So you ARE a troll then. I'm glad we established this.

I genuinely believe a large, significant and noisy portion of the British public know very little about Jeremy Corbyn and his policies, including those that write the headlines. I'm pretty sure that if you were to ask Chuka Umuna to simply parrot every Corbyn policy, suddenly the same people mocking and deriding Corbyn would start to warm to the idea of Labour being electable again. Corbyn just isn't that radical or "hard-left" that the media portray. Tim Farron, meanwhile, seems to have a more openly liberal and progressive policy towards cannabis for example (although i'm sure Corbyn might even feel the same way - its just not core Labour policy yet) - but because they are only 8 MPs, I guess the mainstream media aren't labelling him a "loony lefty" as he's not significant enough.

Perhaps you can provide me some insight as to why I am wrong with my generalisations. I guess that burden of proof may be down to me to resolve, but it would still be interesting to hear why you think the British public are so enlightened? Because I may be in a relatively small minority?
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 2:44pm Nibbles wrote:
and by the way, Hyena, nice way to ridicule somebody generalising (which may have some justification), by following up with your own generalisation about people on this forum.
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 2:50pm Hyena wrote:
Look at the posts and decide.
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 3:00pm Nibbles wrote:
You seem to have more faith in the British public than I do, I remain sceptical.
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On 27 Sep 2016 at 5:56pm Stranger Danger wrote:
At last Corbyn has emerged as the rightful leader, there will now be more social justice for all and hopefully more pound shops in Lewes.


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