On 5 Sep 2009 at 8:20pm EFFLIC wrote:
There are now just 2 more months till the 5th.
In 60 days time we will be out there with our rookies, torches and ale having a ball.
The bonfire season starts tonight in Uckfield and runs right through to the 3rd weekend in November.
Best of luck to all the bonfire boys and girls and lets have a cracking couple of months.
On 5 Sep 2009 at 9:55pm Mark wrote:
Get a life
On 6 Sep 2009 at 7:26am Shut Up wrote:
In a coma all year round except 5th November! How sad.
On 6 Sep 2009 at 9:01am Mr Luv wrote:
It drives me mad how some people can obsess so much over Bonfire.
But let them get on with it, although it is shame how it gets rammed down everybody's throat. I remember when I was a young tyke loving Bonfire night, but it only lasted a day or two. Yes I respect peoples right to remember, but is it right that they wear stripy jumpers for 4 months of the year all talking "Bonfire"?
Yes its a good night of remembrance, but it does grate sometimes.
On 6 Sep 2009 at 9:20am Outsider wrote:
I remember coming down to Lewes for bonfire night - cracking and really exciting. Then I came next year and didn't feel quite the same - same marches, same costumes, same fireworks, same drunken idiots throwing fireworks. I came one more year to see. And then gave up out of boredom. I'm sure it's nice to be part of but it really is boring to see it more than once you know.
On 6 Sep 2009 at 5:39pm Interested wrote:
OK, so what makes your lives so interesting Mark and 'Shut Up' ? Some people enjoy Bonfire just as some people enjoy watching footbal or cricket, or just going to the pub. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean no-one else should. Personally, I cannot think of anything more tedious and pointless than sitting on a riverbank all day trying to catch fish just to throw back, but a lot of people do, and I would never criticize them for doing so - I just don't do it myself. Likewise, I don't watch Lewes FC play, but I don't feel the need to slag people off as soon as they talk about it on here. Maybe if I did have a go at fishing, or go to the football I would enjoy it, and the same applies to Bonfire. After all, it is never people who have 'tried' Bonfire by being part of it that slag it off. If you truly don't like it though, just stay at home on the 5th - it's not really difficult is it. As for it being the same every year, it's a traditional event, of course it's going to be the same !
On 6 Sep 2009 at 6:22pm Mark wrote:
we don't want it being rammed down our throats all the time.
No problem with anyone enjoying bonfire but to keep posting about the subject every other week gets very tedious.
On 6 Sep 2009 at 8:08pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I thought the season had already started. There have been fireworks every weekend since the first weekend in August, plus a few on Friday afternoon.
On 6 Sep 2009 at 9:02pm Shut up wrote:
I agree with Mark. And as for staying in on bonfire night.....hardly a quiet night in is it? I dont mind so much having to sedate the dog on the night but it's not just one night, is it? So yes...IT IS RAMMED DOWN OUR THROATS!!!!
And before you bonfire morons start banging on about 'Well if you dont like it, then move out", I live here for the town and the town is NOT ABOUT BONFIRE. Bonfire is just a 'blown out of proportion' annual festival which has been dragged along through the centuries because a bunch of 6 toed interbred Neanderthals think its cool. Well in a few decades, these uggs will have pegged it and no one will want to continue the tradition because the town is becoming more upper class. Bonfire will one day become a thing of the past.
And I still cannot believe that that poor woman who was injured by flying debris is STILL trying to fight her case.
On 6 Sep 2009 at 9:33pm Agony Aunt wrote:
Big breath........... and relax!
On 6 Sep 2009 at 9:57pm Angry of Lewes (Retd) wrote:
Upper Class? UPPER Class? what kind of arrogance is THAT! - we are degenerating into medievil thugs - knives on the streets, guns too, 11-year-old torturers roaming wild, muggers, murderers and juvenile drunkards, prisons straining at the seams - what we need is traditional celebrations such as this that bring participants together in a common celebration - a year of preparing and planning and rehearsing so that everything happens "just right" on the night (indeed EVERY night that the participants are participating together) and DOING THINGS TOGETHER!! not in sultry, brooding, bitter isolation - poor Mark - poor shut-Up
On 6 Sep 2009 at 10:19pm Mark wrote:
Nothing poor about me angry.
I have no problems with bonfire celebrations unlike shut up,I jus don't see the need for it constanly filling this forum all year round.
On 6 Sep 2009 at 10:20pm Someone in a Cape. wrote:
Just 29 days till Bonfire!
On 6 Sep 2009 at 10:41pm Rodrigo. wrote:
Shut up. Shut up,shut up,shut up !!
God save the queen.
F@@k Guy Fawkes and Lewes Bonfire Night.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 8:11am bonfirek wrote:
Surely most of the above are part of some sort of papal plot to threaten bonfire night. They should be marched out of town and publicly humiliated. If it was down to them we'd live in a pc world made of cotton wool and fairtrade products. Fellow Bonfire Boyes and Girls these halfwitted people should be resisted and fought. For they are the worst that society can offer us Lewesians and a threat to our hard fought right to process..................
On 7 Sep 2009 at 10:14am Someone in a Cape. wrote:
Now a "PLOT" that's an idea!
On 7 Sep 2009 at 10:14am Someone in a Cape. wrote:
Now a "PLOT" to bonfire that's an idea!
On 7 Sep 2009 at 11:59am Old Ted wrote:
You seem a very confused person bonfirek. What have papists got to do with cotton wool and fairtrade products? I suppose the bangs have addled your reasoning capacity.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 12:13pm Interested wrote:
The thing is Mark, this forum isn't filled with Bonfire all year round, it is predominantly filled with parking, planning and a whole lot of other subjects. In any case, if you are so anti Bonfire (which is your choice and absolutely fine) then why even read the thread - it's pretty obvious from the title what it would be about. As for 'Shut Up', you are quite right. It is not just one night a year, it takes a full year of planning and fund raising to stage Lewes Bonfire night for the majority that do enjoy and support it. So yes, to many it is an all year round activity. Wouldn't say that anyone rams it down your throat though - as I said above you don't have to read the thread, especially when it is your blinkered reaction to the original post that has caused it to go on to this extent ! Furthermore, if you took the time to find out a bit more about Bonfire, you would see that it is not just a bunch of '6 toed interbred Neanderthals', the Societies have many members from all walks of life including doctors, lawyers, scientists, academics..etc....
As a traditional, at least it is based on and celebrates a real event from history. If we are going to do away with any traditions, then lets start with some of those that are based on a 2000 year old work of fiction - the world would be a much happier and safer place without that.
Rodrigo meanwhile has obviously no idea what he is talking about. God save the Queen and F@@k Guy Fawkes are essentially two sentiments shared by the Bonfire Societies, in fact indirectly they are the two basic reasons why Bonfire Night even exists.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 12:15pm Interested wrote:
Have just notice someone else posting on other threads using the same name. To avoid confusion I have only posted on this one, and will post under a different name in future. Sorry Interested !
On 7 Sep 2009 at 12:56pm The other Interested. wrote:
I noticed that too...No worries,I have changed mine to Curious from now on.
You keep it.!!
On 7 Sep 2009 at 1:07pm Old Ted wrote:
The Other Interested: Isn't it a bit odd attacking religion (rightly in my view) and then saying that one of the sentiments shared by all the bonfire societies is 'God Save the Queen'? Urging something that doesn't exist to preserve something that shouldn't exist in a genuine democracy. Guy Fawkes was, as you probably know, the only man to enter Parliament with honest intent.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 3:50pm The Other Interested wrote:
Well Old Ted, I quite agree with you, however the phrase had already been used in the thread I was referring to, so let's just say it was used as a figure of speech rather than confirmation of my beliefs. (Although I didn't say that the God I was referring to was the same one that features in the said 2000 year old work of fiction !).
Whether the Monarch should exist in any role other than a tourist attraction, or even that, is another good question. Certainly the wealth and privelige that is lavished on them and their family is obscene in todays world but that is a question for another debate.
However, the discovery of a plot to murder the King and Parliament and no doubt many others, is what lies behind the Bonfire night celebrations, as well as in Lewes, the rememberance of 17 people who were also murdered in the Gods name. With the anniversary of 9/11 this week, it is clear that this kind of mass murder can still happen in the name of 'Holy War' - and successfully. Perhaps those who say we should not celebrate the prevention of such a terrorist attack in 1605, should consider whether it would be worthy of celebration had the 2001 attack been prevented, rather than to mourn those whose lives were lost.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 4:46pm curious wrote:
Old Ted,that wasn't me (The other interested)
I am now curious.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 4:47pm Ed Can Do wrote:
Anyone who thinks that Lewes is becoming more upperclass and this'll lead to the end of Bonfire is obviously unaware of the popular and still-growing Islington, sorry, Southover Bonfire Society. Newcomers to the town often join the Societies and then their kids join and so on, keeping the traditions alive. The idea that we're becoming upperclass at all is hugely laughable but to think that Bonfire will die because of apathy within the town is just silly. The only thing that'll kill it will be insurance and police costs and the more upperclass we get, the more we can afford those!
I can appreciate that some people aren't interested and don't want to read about it but as was already mentioned, the title of the thread doesn't exactly hide it's content, just don't bother reading it. Some of us get more excited about Bonfire Night than Christmas and whilst you might personally think that's sad, I for one put a lot more work into Bonfire than I do into my Christmas celebrations over the course of a year so I don't see why I can't discuss it with like-minded people here in the run up.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 5:58pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I love bonfire and think it's one of the things that makes this town great: it exemplifies the town's DGAF attitude imo. But I get hacked off with it starting earlier and earlier every year, like C******** (refuse the say that word before 1st December), and think it rather detracts from the main event, tbh.
It would be great if Lewes only had only fireworks on badge night, the 5th and the 6th, imo, and the outmeetings could be the only precursors to the 5th.
I'd quite like to go to an outmeeting now and then. Atm I can't, I have to stay home because the dogs are so scared by all the fireworks going off here in the run up to the 5th.
On 7 Sep 2009 at 7:25pm All of a Cape wrote:
Shall we ave a Partie!
On 7 Sep 2009 at 11:19pm Shut Up wrote:
Interested, I was a member of one of the societies about 25 years ago for 10 years running. I went on most out meetings, helped with fundraising etc however, I lost heart when they got too big for their boots and the committee thought it was far more superior than it's members.
On 8 Sep 2009 at 9:56am Interested wrote:
So one committee of one Bonfire Society 15 years ago weren't to your liking, and that is your basis to condemn all societies and the celebrations in general now ? Can we also take it that for ten years running you were 'a Bonfire moron' 'in a coma all year round except Nov 5th', a '6 toed interbred Neanderthal ugg' celebrating a 'blown out of proportion' annual festival' ? These are all your own words. Why is it therefore that you paticipated in an active way for so long ? Could it be that you enjoyed it ? Seems to me that someone upset you so you threw your toys out of the pram and have never got over it, and now you want to take it out on anyone that is involved in Bonfire, or even talks about it.
On 8 Sep 2009 at 11:24am Thesaurus Brown wrote:
Annette Curtin-Twitcher - DGAF? imo? tbh? Atm?
On 8 Sep 2009 at 1:44pm Bonfirek wrote:
And which 'Society' were you in Shut Up? Is it the make believe pink fluffy elephants society' or the 'i made it up to look like i had a valid point society'?!
On 8 Sep 2009 at 2:23pm Ed Can Do wrote:
I don't know where you lot live but I've only heard one bang so far this year and that was on saturday night, I suspect about the time the coaches were getting back from Uckfield. Out meetings are always fun and I'm quite sad to be missing all the ones before the 5th as I'm out of the country.
You get kids setting off fireworks in most towns in the months leading up to Bonfire Night although of course the relative ease of access to loud bangers round here does encourage them I imagine.
On 8 Sep 2009 at 7:11pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Couldn't you hear Proms in the Paddock, Ed? Up here on the Nevill there've have been quite a lot. I blame Chav. 
On 8 Sep 2009 at 7:49pm harold wrote:
As to pets and fireworks, I think you will find it is safer to let your pets out in Lewes around the 5th than other places, as the yobs have a good understanding of how dangerous fireworks are ..and throw them at each other rather than hurting animals, In fact I never have heard of an animal blown up in Lewes
On 8 Sep 2009 at 8:11pm Keeley wrote:
To Mark and Shut up, your comments are a bit off, leave people alone who want to celebrate Bonfire Night, no need for those digs was there? I too don't like Bonfire night in Lewes but I respect the tradition and the people who want to celebrate it, its only one night a year and won't kill you will it?? No one forced you to respond to this thread, and funnily enough the Lewes forum is about Lewes (famous for bonfire amongst others) so people on this board are going to talk about it aren't they!! Live and let live!!
On 8 Sep 2009 at 10:08pm Slightly Damp Squib. wrote:
I agree Keeley.I am not going out this Bonfire Night as it doesn't press any of my buttons and never has.Each to their own...I do not get on my soapbox.I'm just not into it.
On 8 Sep 2009 at 11:33pm Mother-In-Law wrote:
Keeley, please stop trying to play the "new to Lewes" social worker type attitude. It is terminally tedious and makes you look like a complete twat.
On 9 Sep 2009 at 7:23am Shut Up wrote:
I live in Lewes so I have a bloody right to have a moan about bonfire. If what you think about bonfire being the epitome of Lewes is true, then you should respect that it intrudes on peoples's lives, especially if they dont like it. A true bonfire boy would ignore comments like mine, instead of getting all wound up and performing your silly loyalty to this silly 'carnival'! Go and dip some torches or something.
On 9 Sep 2009 at 8:26am Prick Stein wrote:
How about we dip them up your jacksie?
On 9 Sep 2009 at 9:46am Interested wrote:
Come on 'Shut Up', you haven't told us yet why you were an active member of a Bonfire Society for so long if you disagree with Bonfire and dislike its supporters so vehemently. OK you might have fallen out with your committee at the end, but why would you do something you dislike so much for ten years prior to that ? Seems to me that you are a bit of a hypocrite. Perhaps you could also be a bit more clear on how exactly Bonfire has 'intruded' on your life since. OK, so the night of the 5th may cause some inconvenience to non Bonfire people, but not an intrusion on your life, and one night a year is hardly the end of the world. You say that Bonfire is rammed down peoples throats, but how exactly ?
On 9 Sep 2009 at 1:36pm Ed Can Do wrote:
ACT, it's been completely quiet down in Malling so far. I'll admit though that I used to go up the Gallops to let off fireworks in the months preceding Bonfire Night when I was a youngling so I can imagine that still goes on.
Harold, I don't think anyone's suggesting that pets get injured by fireworks, more that they're scared by the bangs. As such it makes sense to keep them in so they don't run away in fear and not find their way home again (Plus the bangs are quieter indoors).
On a more positive note, anyone know where I might be able to get a Military Police hat? The army surplus place I used to go to in the North Laines has closed down now.
On 9 Sep 2009 at 4:56pm Shut Up wrote:
I'm not going to mention which society so I will have to leave you hanging but when you've spent all those years, being a loyal member (not just enrolling on badge night so you can go out on the 5th and ignore the rest of the outmeetings and all the fundraising etc), it feels like a kick in the guts when you have a baby and the 'monthly mag' doesn't even mention it. So I left rather bitter I'm afraid. It seemed back then that the committee only congratulated members if they were on the committee. Even though I wasn't on the committee, they all knew me well. Some of them are still there!!!
I did go back into that society as a member after a couple of years break to have my baby but my heart wasn't in it which meant the 'soul' for me had gone. So every time 'bonfire' is mentioned, I feel that kick in the guts cos bonfire meant the world to me so yes.... I suppose I am a hypocrite and any opportunity to bitch about bonfire, I'm right up there..
On 9 Sep 2009 at 5:26pm Interested wrote:
I would agree with you that the birth of a child is a huge event for the parent, but it is of little interest to all the members that don't know you. The birth of my child was not heralded in the society 'mag' either but so what ! It has nothing to do with Bonfire. It's a shame that you have allowed this incident to get in the way of something you so obviously enjoyed, and a shame that you now feel bitter enough to have to take it out on everyone else that still enjoys it - many of whom, I am guessing, were your friends when you were a member.
On 9 Sep 2009 at 5:33pm Keeley wrote:
What makes Mother in Law think I am new to Lewes, lol? I have lived in Lewes for the past 11 years (recently moved) still have family in Lewes and have been posting on here for months, so don't really know what you're trying to achieve by saying that! My posts aren't any different/worse then others on here, and I couldn't care less if you think me a twat.
And SU where in my post did I say I believed bonfire to be the "epitome" of Lewes? I'm not a bonfire boy and I'm not loyal to it, I don't actually like it and never have done. What i actually said was your comment of "In a coma all year round except for november 5th" was a bit off, which it was. People on this forum are going to start threads about bonfire, especially if its drawing close to November 5th and no one's forcing you to join in the discussion or make catty comments, so live and let live and grow up.